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The Great Zagor Temple of Compassion, Nonviolence, and Love.

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Participants Sandra Palmer10stormycobra90Dana Brooks3Anthony Rodriguez58Jack Harris3rustymaker5Jason Johnson4Brian Mendoza95Timothy Murphy7ambereagle642boldsailor32Richard Walker79placidharbor7slydriver17driftingraven122Amanda Roberts21steeleagle13jademarlin26mistyfox812driftingwolf45Rebecca Johnson36hiddencyclist9boldsailor2Sean Martinez4 …
Richard Walker79 Richard Walker79 Active Member
112 messages
joined Sep 2008
#201 ·
ambereagle642 said:Oh, so now you're an expert on what's "useful" and how to stay sane? Give me some actual proof, Mr. Professional!

Honestly, only a total nutcase spends every waking hour trying to lecture everyone else on an internet forum while their own life passes them by.
I’m over here living my best life while he’s stuck in his own head.
Keep those "expert" tips to yourself, kid. I really don't need them. Go sell that wisdom to someone else!
Richard Walker79 Richard Walker79 Active Member
112 messages
joined Sep 2008
#202 ·
ambereagle642 said:It's that "just" that totally gives you away and honestly, it's such a load of crap... 😁

Do you "ONLY" need to plug your computer into a wall outlet just to get online?
Richard Walker79 Richard Walker79 Active Member
112 messages
joined Sep 2008
#203 ·
My final farewell to the forum:

Like a Zen proverb says, there comes a day when even the most peaceful tool must break,
much like a matchstick that starts the fire, only to be consumed by the flame itself.

Brothers and sisters within the All One,
I simply must depart from this forum once and for all!

The realization has finally hit me, and since some things are better left unsaid,
it’s best to take my leave with grace and dignity.

As Big Manit always says: life is meant to be a game and a joy,
so I refuse to spend any more precious time here on trivialities.

Please forgive me for being such a nuisance and a bother,
but even this loud, barking voice must finally fall silent.
coastalmoose21 coastalmoose21 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Nov 2007
#204 ·
Richard Walker79 said:My final farewell to the forum:

Like a Zen proverb says, there comes a day when even the most peaceful tool must break,
much like a matchstick that starts the fire, only to be consumed by the flame itself.

Brothers and sisters within the All One,
I simply must depart from this forum once and for all!

The realization has finally hit me, and since some things are better left unsaid,
it’s best to take my leave with grace and dignity.

As Big Manit always says: life is meant to be a game and a joy,
so I refuse to spend any more precious time here on trivialities.

Please forgive me for being such a nuisance and a bother,
but even this loud, barking voice must finally fall silent.

What goes up must come down, my friend.
😲
ambereagle642 ambereagle642 Active Member
91 messages
joined Dec 2007
#205 ·
Richard Walker79 said:My final farewell to the forum:

Like a Zen proverb says, there comes a day when even the most peaceful tool must break,
much like a matchstick that starts the fire, only to be consumed by the flame itself.

Brothers and sisters within the All One,
I simply must depart from this forum once and for all!

The realization has finally hit me, and since some things are better left unsaid,
it’s best to take my leave with grace and dignity.

As Big Manit always says: life is meant to be a game and a joy,
so I refuse to spend any more precious time here on trivialities.

Please forgive me for being such a nuisance and a bother,
but even this loud, barking voice must finally fall silent.

dusko-dugousko ...poor guy, winning some and losing some, haha... 😁
Amanda Roberts21 Amanda Roberts21 Member
31 messages
joined Feb 2008
#206 ·
Richard Walker79 said:My final farewell to the forum:

Like a Zen proverb says, there comes a day when even the most peaceful tool must break,
much like a matchstick that starts the fire, only to be consumed by the flame itself.

Brothers and sisters within the All One,
I simply must depart from this forum once and for all!

The realization has finally hit me, and since some things are better left unsaid,
it’s best to take my leave with grace and dignity.

As Big Manit always says: life is meant to be a game and a joy,
so I refuse to spend any more precious time here on trivialities.

Please forgive me for being such a nuisance and a bother,
but even this loud, barking voice must finally fall silent.


Douglas, traveler,

these are lines by Rumi that Shadow left in the Sufi poetry thread.
They capture the headspace of all true seekers—and you're definitely one of them.
I hope they resonate with you, and maybe shed some light on why the search for Bogey feels like such an uphill battle...

You aren't actually a hunter pursuing Me; you're just a servant at My feet.

You devise ways to draw closer, yet you don't truly know how to leave Me or how to seek Me.

This frantic searching is exactly what causes your suffering; I heard your heavy sighs last night.

It is within My power to end this waiting, to show you the Way and grant you entry.
To free you from the cycle of time and finally reveal the treasure of becoming one with Me!

But the sweetness of rest is always proportional to the hardships of the journey.

Only when you endure the blows of pain and the trials of exile will you truly appreciate returning home.

Rumi

🙂
ambereagle642 ambereagle642 Active Member
91 messages
joined Dec 2007
#207 ·
Amanda Roberts21 said:Douglas, traveler,

these are lines by Rumi that Shadow left in the Sufi poetry thread.
They capture the headspace of all true seekers—and you're definitely one of them.
I hope they resonate with you, and maybe shed some light on why the search for Bogey feels like such an uphill battle...

You aren't actually a hunter pursuing Me; you're just a servant at My feet.

You devise ways to draw closer, yet you don't truly know how to leave Me or how to seek Me.

This frantic searching is exactly what causes your suffering; I heard your heavy sighs last night.

It is within My power to end this waiting, to show you the Way and grant you entry.
To free you from the cycle of time and finally reveal the treasure of becoming one with Me!

But the sweetness of rest is always proportional to the hardships of the journey.

Only when you endure the blows of pain and the trials of exile will you truly appreciate returning home.

Rumi

🙂


give me a break, Rumi doesn't have a clue! 🙄
driftingwolf45 driftingwolf45 Member
21 messages
joined Nov 2007
#208 ·
ambereagle642 said:give me a break, Rumi doesn't have a clue! 🙄

Once ambereagle642 finally realizes what's actually going on, it’ll hit him—it really does have some depth to it. You kind of have to stop and wonder how he managed to read it like that in the first place.
It’s true both spiritually and just literally, considering how messy those complex sentences get. 😍
ambereagle642 ambereagle642 Active Member
91 messages
joined Dec 2007
#209 ·
driftingwolf45 said:Once ambereagle642 finally realizes what's actually going on, it’ll hit him—it really does have some depth to it. You kind of have to stop and wonder how he managed to read it like that in the first place.
It’s true both spiritually and just literally, considering how messy those complex sentences get. 😍

A tiny leap for mankind... but for some big-shot politician, it’s a massive stride forward, haha... 😁
steeleagle13 steeleagle13 Active Member
95 messages
joined Sep 2008
#210 ·
Richard Walker79 said:Honestly, only a total nutcase spends every waking hour trying to lecture everyone else on an internet forum while their own life passes them by.
I’m over here living my best life while he’s stuck in his own head.
Keep those "expert" tips to yourself, kid. I really don't need them. Go sell that wisdom to someone else!

Honestly, you have to be insane to spend all day arguing over this petty stuff on a message board😉 😂
Richard Walker79 Richard Walker79 Active Member
112 messages
joined Sep 2008
#211 ·
FAREWELL TO OUR JIM

Our Master Ivan has finally left us,
a man who was truly a lost cause.
He peddled all sorts of strange mysticism,
cheating on every spiritual scale and balance.

He rubbed plenty of people the wrong way,
puffed up his ego until it hit the clouds.
But now he has finally fallen,
that wicked, fake guru.

He’ll be remembered for his malice and folly,
for his selfishness and his spite.
He made so many grand promises,
yet delivered so very little.

Our master clone is gone,
and the other masters won't even give him the time of day.
He was nothing more than a passing fad,
only relevant while the spiritual sales pitch lasted.

Where are all those other legendary masters now?
The one who created them is nowhere to be found.
They have all tumbled into the abyss,
shitting themselves in sheer disgrace.

I said long ago that they were all frauds,
posers, hypocrites, and fake spiritualists.
They refused to clear their minds of nonsense,
so in the end, they simply burned themselves out.
Brenda Cook4 Brenda Cook4 Regular
373 messages
joined Sep 2010
#212 ·
So, where did he head off to?
steeleagle13 steeleagle13 Active Member
95 messages
joined Sep 2008
#213 ·
Richard Walker79 said:FAREWELL TO OUR JIM

Our Master Ivan has finally left us,
a man who was truly a lost cause.
He peddled all sorts of strange mysticism,
cheating on every spiritual scale and balance.

He rubbed plenty of people the wrong way,
puffed up his ego until it hit the clouds.
But now he has finally fallen,
that wicked, fake guru.

He’ll be remembered for his malice and folly,
for his selfishness and his spite.
He made so many grand promises,
yet delivered so very little.

Our master clone is gone,
and the other masters won't even give him the time of day.
He was nothing more than a passing fad,
only relevant while the spiritual sales pitch lasted.

Where are all those other legendary masters now?
The one who created them is nowhere to be found.
They have all tumbled into the abyss,
shitting themselves in sheer disgrace.

I said long ago that they were all frauds,
posers, hypocrites, and fake spiritualists.
They refused to clear their minds of nonsense,
so in the end, they simply burned themselves out.


But hey, Jim is back
bringing fresh news straight from the deep blue sea.🤣
steeleagle13 steeleagle13 Active Member
95 messages
joined Sep 2008
#214 ·
Richard Walker79, you
really need to clear your head of all that "master" nonsense—since we're already talking about clearing heads 😁
Richard Walker79 Richard Walker79 Active Member
112 messages
joined Sep 2008
#215 ·
Brenda Cook4 said:So, where did he head off to?

He bailed because the whole ship was sinking, steered by nothing but a crew of rats.
The helmsman had no choice but to jump ship before he went down with them.
It isn't just my take, either; I see others noticing the exact same thing...
I suppose Richard Walker79 wasn't just talking nonsense before the final disaster hit.
Richard Walker79 Richard Walker79 Active Member
112 messages
joined Sep 2008
#216 ·
steeleagle13 said:But hey, Jim is back
bringing fresh news straight from the deep blue sea.🤣

Where on earth is Jim now, master?
The King of Spiritual Rhymes?
He really dug himself into a hole this time!
That guy really did a number on him!
Where has the society of master craftsmen vanished to?
What happened to our local preachers? They’ve gone completely downhill!
You guys really went and broke up the whole union, didn't you?
To all you Marshall supporters and everyone else acting like they’re some kind of spiritual guru—get real!🙏😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Anthony Rivera17 Anthony Rivera17 Active Member
62 messages
joined Dec 2007
#217 ·
Richard Walker79 said:That is exactly what I was trying to convey by using those old, worn-out words: "emptying the mind."
Only when a person empties their mind using "certain methods" do they enter Samadhi or Zen (Samadhi is a state of an undisturbed, empty, pure mind, and it doesn't matter who or what enters it; don't get hung up on words and concepts by taking them literally or trying to grasp them with the intellect) and then nothing can touch them anymore because they transcend duality and all worldly connections.

Now, that state isn't something you achieve; it is always there, and it is our true nature. Everything else is just personalization, ego, ego trips—call it whatever you want. How do you reach that state? People suggest meditation, fasting, prayer, and so on...
But it's all nonsense; I've tried it all.
Samadhi arrives—or rather, it is revealed—only when a person clears their mind of programming, habits, customs, and cultural or national identities... You have to be like a small child.
That's why Jesus said in his mystical teaching: "Unless you become like little children, you cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven."

I don't need drugs, fasting, studying, or anything else; I've tried it all and seen that they can help, some more than others... So, how do you empty the mind? And what does "emptying the mind" actually mean?

We all enter this world fully enlightened, and truthfully, we remain so even now. The only real variable is how much an individual recognizes their true essence versus how much they’ve become lost in their ego-driven persona. There has to be a balance! Think of the ego as a tool—it's meant to be used, not discarded. You can't have one without the other. But you absolutely must stay aware of your fundamental nature; otherwise, everything feels like an uphill battle and we just end up running in circles.

I personally became aware of my immortal nature when I was only five years old. Even then, I knew I wasn't just this physical body or this little ego-personality.

As life goes on, however, the mind tends to get cluttered. That’s when you have to sit down and start clearing out the mental junk. I like to call it "mental decluttering."
Essentially, whether you were raised in a strict Christian household, grew up under socialist ideals, or were brought up in an atheist or Muslim environment—you have to toss that baggage aside!

After that, comes the practice of short mantras. I’m not talking about repeating a single word a hundred times like a parrot! It’s much simpler than that. You just state it clearly and firmly: I am not my body.
Try a new mantra: Who am I? Or perhaps: Am I truly my anger or my pain?

You can do this occasionally—maybe once a day or even once a week. Don't force it! Everything flows naturally once a person finally lets go. It becomes like an unstoppable avalanche.

For instance, I couldn't stop the "Who am I?" mantra even if I had wanted to! You’ll see—once it starts coming to you spontaneously, there’s no stopping it.

I say, though many fail to hear, that it was far easier for a caveman
to reach enlightenment than it is for us today... many still cling to the idea
that we require special "tools" located outside ourselves to get the job done,
because the mechanics of the reality we live in suggest that hammering a nail is easier
with a tool than with bare hands... "if a hammer makes it easier
to drive nails, then there MUST be a way to reach
enlightenment more easily using some human invention"... a delusion that isn't easily cast off, one that many have earned through sheer persistence... 😉
Anthony Rivera17 Anthony Rivera17 Active Member
62 messages
joined Dec 2007
#218 ·
Richard Walker79 said:FAREWELL TO OUR JIM

Our Master Ivan has finally left us,
a man who was truly a lost cause.
He peddled all sorts of strange mysticism,
cheating on every spiritual scale and balance.

He rubbed plenty of people the wrong way,
puffed up his ego until it hit the clouds.
But now he has finally fallen,
that wicked, fake guru.

He’ll be remembered for his malice and folly,
for his selfishness and his spite.
He made so many grand promises,
yet delivered so very little.

Our master clone is gone,
and the other masters won't even give him the time of day.
He was nothing more than a passing fad,
only relevant while the spiritual sales pitch lasted.

Where are all those other legendary masters now?
The one who created them is nowhere to be found.
They have all tumbled into the abyss,
shitting themselves in sheer disgrace.

I said long ago that they were all frauds,
posers, hypocrites, and fake spiritualists.
They refused to clear their minds of nonsense,
so in the end, they simply burned themselves out.

"so many, so many people have talent
but no money to get into the studio
then when they drop an album, the crowd spits on them,
calling them hacks, calling them sellouts...
idiots always have something to say, though their rhymes never quite land"

Edo Maajka

The lines above aren't directed at anyone in particular, it just
"occurred" to me after reading those verses about my favorite Master😲
Richard Walker79 Richard Walker79 Active Member
112 messages
joined Sep 2008
#219 ·
Anthony Rivera17 said:
"so many, so many people have talent
but no money to get into the studio
then when they drop an album, the crowd spits on them,
calling them hacks, calling them sellouts...
idiots always have something to say, though their rhymes never quite land"

Edo Maajka

The lines above aren't directed at anyone in particular, it just
"occurred" to me after reading those verses about my favorite Master😲

It isn't about the rhyme,
it's about having something worth saying.

And that Edo guy is a total moron.
Richard Walker79 Richard Walker79 Active Member
112 messages
joined Sep 2008
#220 ·
Anthony Rivera17 said:I say, though many fail to hear, that it was far easier for a caveman
to reach enlightenment than it is for us today... many still cling to the idea
that we require special "tools" located outside ourselves to get the job done,
because the mechanics of the reality we live in suggest that hammering a nail is easier
with a tool than with bare hands... "if a hammer makes it easier
to drive nails, then there MUST be a way to reach
enlightenment more easily using some human invention"... a delusion that isn't easily cast off, one that many have earned through sheer persistence... 😉

The truth is, enlightenment is already right here, but it's buried under layers of mental garbage that need clearing out.
And how many people are actually willing to let go of the junk they've tied their entire identity to?
Not many. Very few. It sounds so incredibly simple, yet that very simplicity makes it nearly impossible for most.
My advice to everyone? Try deprogramming yourselves through conscious meditation and focused concentration.

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