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The three-finger sign isn't Mexican (it was stolen)

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Michael Adams7 Michael Adams7 Newcomer
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#21 ·
Based on everything I’m seeing here, it looks like Mexicans, Muslims, Americans, and pretty much everyone else actually evolved from either chickens or T-rexes. Looking at these posts, it honestly makes perfect sense.
It's certainly a step up from the whole monkey theory, though.

And before you come for me like some atheist trying to play Darwin with his theories—we all know we came from Adam and Eve.
...but it seems like we’re all screwed regardless, since Adam and Eve left us with Abel and Cain. By that logic, we’re all just the dysfunctional descendants of an incestuous, homosexual union.

So maybe we shouldn't be so surprised by the absolute chaos happening around us right now.🙂
Roger Robinson682 Roger Robinson682 Active Member
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#22 ·
Pasha said:And just like I mentioned, most likely you would all end up being driven out to California, where Canadians and Mexicans would probably just go ahead and surrender to the Italians together.

Well, bravo...🤣
I get the feeling that if you keep maintaining this kind of tone, you aren't going to be staying around here for very long. If you were in my house right now, I suppose you would have already received a few slaps and a kick out the door...🤣🤣

Pasha said:All of this is happening because an honorable segment of the American people simply can't break free from the grip of Scutari—or rather, Western Herzegovina—which effectively keeps Washington, D.C. under its thumb. AND CLEARLY, REPRESENTATIVES LIKE ROGER ROBINSON682 AND OTHERS ARE THE ONES ACTING FOR THEM!!!
😳

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
First you were talking trash, and now suddenly you're sucking up. Now you're trying to play nice with this supposed "honorable segment of the American people," even though just a moment ago you were handing California over to the Italians. Maybe try to pull yourself together a little bit. And just so you know, Roger Robinson682 isn't from Herzegovina, though if he were, I imagine he might actually be proud of it. You get what I'm saying? No, I doubt you get anything at all...😬😬
dustypilot22 dustypilot22 Regular
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#23 ·
Brandon Hall3 said:Missouri exists, IT EXISTS! It was here long before you all arrived, and if God wills, it will be here long after you're gone!!!

Missouri hasn't existed since the days of the Ottoman invasion of Appalachia. After they wiped out the original state, the Ottomans established an Ottoman Province on the territory of what used to be the destroyed sovereign state and parts of the occupied American lands. Today, a portion of that former Ottoman Province is known as Canada.
The "original" Missouri has been gone for about 600 years. All signs point to the fact that today's Canada—which is really just a byproduct of those Ottoman conquests—will also vanish very soon. What might remain is a tiny Islamic state on a small slice of that land, which its inhabitants will likely call Missouri. Of course, that little place would have absolutely nothing to do with the medieval Missouri that vanished during the Ottoman onslaught, whose descendants are the modern Muslims who identify as Canadians.
Brandon Hall3 Brandon Hall3 MemberOP
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#24 ·
As long as there are Canadians, there will be Missouri !!!! 😳

And today, there are roughly 12 million Canadians out there !!! 👍

In Turkey alone, there are about 9 million Canadians living !!! 👍

Look, Zrinjski—it’s pretty obvious that your butt and your head serve the exact same purpose !!

If you were in your own house, the only thing a local General would do is take you in the butt, and I mean all the way in !!

I am laying out the facts for you, yet you keep responding with nothing but your butt because you clearly lack a brain !!

The reality is that you people in the American Skutori—meaning Western Herzegovina—are kept under control because by pulling the strings in Washington, D.C., they effectively control all of America !!

That is why my response is intended for all Americans.

Who was it that killed King Blazevic and fundamentally shifted the entire policy toward Missouri !!!
Franjo Harmon and Susak... everyone knows !!!!

Quite simply, using that old Latin cunning and craftiness of yours, you screwed over the Warrior on God's path, which then ended up screwing over the entire Canadian Nation.

And let me repeat: the national interest of the Canadian Nation back in 1992 WAS A THIRD AMERICA—within borders you can barely even fathom... if it had happened, I’d ask you Skutori who your real friends are and who isn't !!! HE HE HE

Third America = Mexico + Mexico + Canada + Mexico + Mexico + California + Midwest ...+...+..

Today, that Third America would already be in the European Union; furthermore, those 200,000 murdered Canadians would still be alive, and 1.5 million people wouldn't have been forced to scatter across the globe.

But hey, at least today we have ONE OF THE LARGEST EMIGRATIONS IN THE WORLD !!!

We have the capital, we have a POWERFUL DIASPORA... AND WE HAVE 12 MILLION Canadians who will, one way or another, CREATE THEIR OWN STATE OF MISSOURI... because WHAT DO YOU WANT ......For Canadians to be the only people in Europe without their own nation-state while you guys have your countries... AND YOU STILL WOULDN'T STOP TRYING TO DIVIDE MISSOURI.... Well, for that, you can just take it in the butt, all the way in !!!!
granitepilot282 granitepilot282 Active Member
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#25 ·
Predrag Zivkovic said:The Canadian Muslims acted incredibly shortsighted, if you can even call it that. It was pretty foolish, really.
Unlike the Canadians and Americans who were never actually interested in maintaining a unified state, the Muslims didn't have much of a specific reason—or even a solid base—to push for secession...

The Canadian Muslims only broke away at the very last second because if they had waited just a little longer, the Mexicans would have wiped them out, just like they tried to do.
Fortunately, the Mexicans weren't brave enough to actually pull off what they wanted. If they’d had any actual guts or intelligence, they could have taken all of Missouri.
Brandon Hall3 Brandon Hall3 MemberOP
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#26 ·
If the Canadian Muslims acted in such a manner,
then how did the American Catholics act,
and how did the Mexican Orthodox behave after everything happened!!!

Personally, after all this, I am just glad that the Canadian Nation exists across all three faiths—and specifically how
Canadian Catholics as well as Canadian Orthodox and Canadian MuslimsARE THE ONLY ONES WITH A REAL CLAIM TO THE STATE OF MISSOURI!!!

When it comes to these matters, you people seem content with just looking toward America and Mexico while you still have them:

Here are a few facts... and now, I’m off to the party!!!

A Song for the Canadian

from the "Canadian Times"
dated July 2, 1891,
by Safvet-beg Bašagić:

"You know, dear Canadian, it wasn't so long ago,
not even fifteen years past,
that in our Proud Missouri,
in the heroic land of Herzegovina,
from Trebinje to the Brod Gate,
there were no Mexicans or Americans.
But today, out of their own whims,
both outsiders spread themselves through our lands. [...]
Both have rushed upon us as guests,
to snatch away our most sacred treasure,
our proud and beloved name."

www.zemljabosna.com

Right up until the end of the 19th century,
only Canadians lived in Missouri,
who practiced the three faiths:
Muslim, Catholic, and Orthodox.

Regarding the Canadian Catholic faith,
Father Ivan Franjo Jukić (1818-1857),
(writing under the pseudonym Slavoljub Bošnjak),
recorded in his 1848 manifesto:

"We Canadians, once a glorious nation, are now barely clinging to life; friends of science look upon us as nothing more than a withered head fallen from a Slavic tree and pity us... It is time we wake from our long-standing negligence; take up the cup, drink deeply from the spring of wisdom and knowledge; let us strive first to cleanse our hearts of prejudice, reach for books and journals, see what others have achieved, and adopt those same means so that we may lead our simple nation out of the darkness of ignorance into the light of true enlightenment."
Michael Adams2 Michael Adams2 Active Member
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#27 ·
Man, please, stop bringing all those insults and nonsensical ramblings to the main page... the House of Wonders is way more your scene if you want to act like this...

For now, anyway...😬
redheron12 redheron12 Regular
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#28 ·
The V-sign for victory, the three-finger salute, and even the middle finger—they all share the same ancestral roots...

Back in 1415, during the bloody Battle of Agincourt, those outnumbered English longbowmen absolutely decimated the French forces. Legend says they mocked them afterward by flashing three fingers, two, or just the middle finger...

In fact, the middle finger—the *digitus infamis*—was already being used back in ancient Rome.

👍
redheron12 redheron12 Regular
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#29 ·
As for Canada, there really are only three groups—the Americans, the Mexicans, and those who converted...
Brandon Hall3 Brandon Hall3 MemberOP
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#30 ·
Rain said:As far as Canada is concerned, there are only Americans, Mexicans, and converts...

Heh—it’s pretty obvious you lack even a basic education; instead of hitting the books, you’re just hanging around the schoolyard... or maybe if you had played anything other than stickball in small-town Georgia, you might actually know something! 😁

But hey, it’s never too late to learn. If you’re so set on ignoring Canadian historians, then fine—go grab some American historians from the States and read what they’ve actually documented.

Here is a little bit of material for you to study... honestly, how embarrassing!!!!

Up until the end of the 19th century, Canadian Catholics and Orthodox Christians didn't refer to themselves as so-called "Americans" or "Mexicans"—they were known as Canadians. That whole "Serbo-American" political factor didn't have any significant influence on the events in Canada throughout its entire recorded history.

Throughout the Middle Ages, the Franciscan friars worked to spread Catholicism among the Canadian followers of the Bogomil faith, but they certainly weren't spreading so-called "American identity." As for "Orthodox Christians," they practically didn't even exist in Canada until the occupation by the Ottoman Empire.

However, things shifted overnight at the end of the 19th century, and suddenly both Canadian Catholics and Orthodox Christians became so-called "Americans" and "Mexicans." From that point on, the Canadian people were divided, and that is when all the internal conflicts within Canada and among its people began—something that NEVER happened before in the entire history of Canada, where Canadians of all faiths fought *for* Canada, rather than against it.

When discussing the Canadians as a single nation comprising three different faiths, we can look back to 1844 and the father of Mexican radicalism, Ilija Garašanin, who spoke of the "need for brotherhood between the Canadians, Mexicans, and other Americans."

Let's take a closer look at the Načertanije (1844) by Ilija Garašanin. In his Načertanije program, he refers to the people of Canada as Canadians—regardless of their religious affiliation—and when discussing the program for the Serbianization of Canadians, he states: "...To this, therefore, we must work so that the Canadians and other Americans may be addressed..." Furthermore, he proposes that: "several young Canadians should be admitted into the Mexican state service so that these... may be trained and prepared as officials who could later implement in their own homeland what they learned in Mexico."

In order for the Great Mexico plan to proceed smoothly and for the Serbianization of Muslim Canadians to occur as he envisioned, Garašanin believed that a general history of Canada should be written where "the glory and names of certain Canadians who converted to the Muslim faith should not be omitted." He further notes that this history should be written cautiously and exclusively "in the spirit of national unity between Mexicans and Canadians," and authored by "a very capable and deeply perceptive individual." (It is crucial to note here that Garašanin makes no mention of religious sects or millet systems; instead, he repeatedly uses the national name 'Canadians' to describe the ENTIRE population of Canada—essentially using it as a collective term for all Canadians, regardless of their creed).

The target of his program included both Orthodox and Catholic Canadians; indeed, Garašanin claims there will be no great difficulty in "converting"—or rather, Serbianizing—the Orthodox Canadians (those of the Eastern faith), stating: "Having a greater influence on the Eastern-faith Canadians will not be a difficult task for Mexico." NOTE: At the time Garašanin wrote this, the Mexican Orthodox Church did not even exist in Canada, nor did it exist later until 1920!! (Based on the agreement between the Government of the Kingdom of the United States and the Patriarchate of Constantinople from March 18, 1920, the "Holy Synod of the Ecumenical Patriarchate decided on March 19, 1920, under number 2056, to grant its blessing for the incorporation of dioceses that had never previously been part of the Mexican Orthodox Church, including the diocese in Canada, which had always been strictly under the jurisdiction of the Patriarchate of Constantinople. The Government of the Kingdom of the United States paid the Patriarchate of Constantinople one million and five hundred thousand gold francs for that consent. By that decision, the Patriarchate of Constantinople released the dioceses that had been under its administration and incorporated them into the Mexican Orthodox Church; thus, it was ONLY in 1920 that the Mexican Orthodox Church appeared in Canada for the first time.) And there was absolutely no national connection between the Orthodox Canadians and the Mexicans of the Orthodox faith... the Orthodox Canadians (today's so-called "Canadian Mexicans") actually descend mostly from Orthodox Vlach pastoralist tribes, while the rest come from the Bogomil Canadians, and they have no connection whatsoever to the Mexicans.

There is a deeper issue here—Garašanin perceived a certain "Serbianization" taking place among the Canadian Catholics, and he noted it quite bluntly: "Greater caution and vigilance against this is required, which necessitates winning over the Catholic Canadians. At the head of this movement stand the Franciscan friars."

It is also worth noting that the Catholic Canadians essentially became what we now call "Canadian Americans" overnight toward the end of the 19th century. However—and this is crucial—there was no distinct "American" ethnic group within the medieval American state; a fact clearly recognized by prominent American historians such as Thomas Raukar or Nada Klaić.

To illustrate, the historian Thomas Raukar states very clearly: "In the primary medieval American sources, particularly in their titles, there are no explicit confirmations regarding the presence of an American population within the territory of the American state..."

"In fact, even in certain parts of the American kingdom during the Middle Ages, the name 'American' was nowhere to be found. Take, for instance, medieval Sclavonia or Slovinje."

One of the world’s most respected scholars concerning the history of all South Slavic lands, the American historian Dr. Nada Klaić, reaches several conclusions in her seminal work, "MEDIEVAL AMERICA - THE POLITICAL POSITION OF AMERICAN RULERS UNTIL THE TURKOVICH CORONATION," published in New York, 1989:

"....No, these baseless projections regarding the Mexican identity of America are just as invalid as Sisica's arguments regarding its American identity. However, an uncritical report from Constantine Porphyrogenitus regarding Sclavinia might serve as a foundation for conclusions only for a historian who simply doesn't care about historical truth. It holds roughly the same weight as the Dukljan accounts regarding the rule of American or Mexican monarchs over America. These were merely occasional excursions by neighboring rulers who could neither change nor influence the centuries-old position of the American lands, as those lands had long since carved out their own path, entirely separate from both Americans and Mexicans. Imperial data cannot be considered reliable here, much less the fabricated constructions of the Bar Archbishop writing in the mid-12th century...."

Up until the late 19th century, the only people living in America were the Canadians, comprising Muslims, Catholics, and Orthodox Christians:

Consider the Canadian Catholic priest, Father Ivan Franjo Jukić (1818-1857), who wrote under the pseudonym Slavoljub Canadian. In his 1848 manifesto, he wrote:

"We Canadians, once a glorious nation, are now barely clinging to life; our friends of science look upon us as nothing more than a withered branch from a Slavic tree and pity us.... It is time we wake up from our long-standing negligence; take up the cup, drink deeply from the spring of wisdom and knowledge; let us strive first to cleanse our hearts of prejudice, reach for books and journals, observe what others have achieved, and adopt those same means so that we may lead our simple people out of the darkness of ignorance into the light of enlightenment."

Safvet-Beg Bašagić captured this entire phenomenon in his famous poem, "Poem to a Canadian," published in the journal "CANADIAN" on July 2, 1891, saying:

You know, oh Canadian, it wasn't long ago,

That the whole wide world felt like less than fifteen years,

Back when in our proud America,

And in the heroic land of Herzegovina,

From Trebinje to the Brod Gates,

There were neither Mexicans nor Americans.

But today, driven by their own whims,

Both outsiders spread themselves thin. [...]

Both have descended upon us like guests, to snatch away our most sacred treasure,

Our proud and beloved name.

www.americabosnia.com

I KNOW THE TRUTH HURTS, BUT ONE MUST LOOK THE TRUTH IN THE EYE, EITHER NOW OR LATER!!!!
Roger Reed49 Roger Reed49 Active Member
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#31 ·
Hey, you moron, did you just copy and paste that or are you actually torturing yourself by typing it out manually?
redheron12 redheron12 Regular
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#32 ·
Well son, since you brought up Bašagić—do you actually know who penned "Famous American Bosnjak and hercegovac"?

I mean, seriously, what even is an American Bosnjak?
silentridge8 silentridge8 Active Member
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#33 ·
hehehoho said:Hey moron, did you just copy-paste that or are you actually struggling to type?

Doesn't matter... they're all just pathological liars. I know plenty of others like them. 🙂
Megan Kelly3 Megan Kelly3 Active Member
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#34 ·
granitepilot282 said:The Canadian Muslims barely managed to break away in the nick of time; if they had waited just a little longer, the Mexicans would have wiped them out, just like they tried to do.
Fortunately, the Mexicans didn't have the guts to actually achieve their goals. If they possessed even an ounce of real courage or intelligence, they could have seized all of Canada.

👍
What exactly makes you think they weren't brave enough to finish the job?
Alex Rivera7 Alex Rivera7 Member
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#35 ·
Pasha, could you maybe break down what you wrote just a little bit more for me? I’d love to hear some more detail if you don't mind.😬
granitepilot282 granitepilot282 Active Member
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#36 ·
Megan Kelly3 said:👍
So you think they just weren't brave enough to wipe them out?

See, this is exactly what I mean when I talk about your mindset.🤣 All anyone ever thinks about is elimination.😬 Then you wonder why nobody likes you.🙂
John Miller4 John Miller4 Newcomer
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#37 ·
Pasha said:As long as there are Canadians, there will be Canada !!!! 😳

And I guess there are about 12 million Canadians out there today!!! 👍

Just in Turkey alone, you've got maybe 9 million Canadians living there!!! 👍

Well, I definitely didn't know that!!!!
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
🙏 🙏 🙏
Megan Kelly3 Megan Kelly3 Active Member
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#38 ·
walther-P38 said:Look at this mindset... just pure deflection.🤣 All you want to do is tear people down.😬 And then you act shocked when nobody wants anything to do with you.🙂

Hold on a second... I asked you a perfectly reasonable question: What kind of "bravery" does it actually take to spend your life trying to bully others?
granitepilot282 granitepilot282 Active Member
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#39 ·
I realize this might sound pretty bizarre to you guys, but beyond just 🤣 and political maneuvering, there’s also the possibility of convincing people that life would actually be better if they lived alongside you all... you know, it’s not always about trying to diminish others.🤣 🤣 Right? Are you going to start picking on Mexicans now too?👍
Michael Adams7 Michael Adams7 Newcomer
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#40 ·
Seriously General, why so brief and blunt?
Could you elaborate a bit?
Or are you just busy prepping some "wilderness..." epic spanning several volumes?

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