Is this trip worth it or not?

bozanstvena333 said:Staring at that hideous image—it honestly reminds me of an elderly patient suffering from severe hydrocephalus—I find myself completely unable to consider any kind of travel. My only genuine impulse is to grab that picture, crumple it into a ball, and toss it straight into the trash. I'm left wondering: should I be concerned by such a visceral reaction?

haha, the picture isn't ugly at all😁

As far as I'm aware, LAM isn't the only entity Kruel has ever dealt with.🙄

Levine said:Of course not. Buffett is blind.
At least there are some resemblances—not just with Tesla and Lamb, but even Slavinsky appears similar in certain shots.
Not an exact match, obviously, but the similarities exist.

Send me the links to those photos.😉

Perhaps that LAM isn't some tangible, flesh-and-blood entity at all. It could just be a psychological gateway into the astral plane—think of it like a mental tool, a technique involving visualization or staring at a Tarot card until the veil thins.
You know, those various methods for entering the astral realm and such.
Then again, there’s always the possibility it actually is some sort of astral being.

Why don't you actually zoom in on the details in this image? http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/lam2.gif

Notice those spirals flanking both sides.

Then there are those three large circles paired with three smaller ones—it almost looks like a layout based on the Tree of Life as a model of The Spiritual Universe, if you look at the positioning.

Karen Sanchez19 said:Just take a closer look at the details in this image: http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/lam2.gif

Those spirals on both sides...

And those three large circles alongside the three smaller ones—if you look at their placement, they really do remind me of the Tree of Life as a model of The Spiritual Universe.

It’s just so obvious how the ankh fits in... like the nose and the forehead...
Maybe Lam is some kind of organic portal... or maybe it's an ET...
Even Aleister Crowley himself noted this:
Crowley wrote in 1944: "My observation of the Universe convinces me that there are beings of intelligence and power of a far higher quality than anything we can conceive of as human; that they are not necessarily based on the cerebral and nervous structures that we know, and that the one and only chance for mankind to advance as a whole is for individuals to make contact with such beings."

I wonder if any of you actually realize that Lam and Aiwass are one and the same.😈

Brenda Cook4 said:just like how obvious the ankh is... the nose and the whole thing....
maybe Lam is an organic portal... or maybe an ET..
even Aleister Crowley says:
Crowley wrote in 1944: "My observation of the Universe convinces me that there are beings of intelligence and power of a far higher quality than anything we can conceive of as human; that they are not necessarily based on the cerebral and nervous structures that we know, and that the one and only chance for mankind to advance as a whole is for individuals to make contact with such beings."

maybe Lam is an organic portal... or maybe an ET..

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Anyway... in which book did the image of Lam actually appear, what does it say alongside it, and what are his specific explanations?🙄

bozanstvena333 said:Looking at that hideous picture—which, honestly, reminds me of an elderly patient with hydrocephalus—I can't imagine going on any kind of trip. My only real urge is to grab that image, crumple it up, and toss it straight into the trash. I’m not sure... should I be worried that I’m feeling this impulse?

Well, personally, I actually think the picture is pretty good...😉

goldenharbor Karen Sanchez19 said:Does anyone here actually grasp the reality that Lam and Aiwass are one and the same?😈

I don't think they are...

I can't provide a direct link to an image, but if you're looking for a visual representation of Aiwass, you'll find plenty of occult illustrations online that attempt to capture his essence. As for who he actually is? It’s complicated. Depending on which esoteric circle you ask, you’ll get wildly different answers. Some view him as a divine messenger, a sort of celestial entity delivering a cosmic blueprint. Others see him through a more psychological lens—an externalized manifestation of a higher self or a profound breakthrough in consciousness. But let's be real: trying to pin down a definitive identity for a being like that is like trying to catch smoke with your bare hands. It's an enigma wrapped in a mystery, and frankly, most people aren't prepared for the implications of what he represents.🙄

goldenharbor said:

What kind of bizarre digital rendering is this? I’m looking for the ACTUAL Aleister Crowley image... I’ve tried searching Google, but nothing turns up.🙄>

So, is it perhaps a "mistake" to claim that we aren't actually the same beings?

Karen Sanchez19 said:translate

Anyway... which book actually features the image of Lam, what does the accompanying text say, and what kind of explanations does he provide?🙄

All I know for sure is that the image of Lam was created back in 1919, and Aleister Crowley passed the original over to Kenneth Grant in 1945. From there, Grant established a cult centered around Lam - Dikpal - The Way of Silence within the Ordo Templi Orientis. Word is that certain members actually had contact with him, and they're currently putting together more detailed accounts in their journal, "Stirfire."...

For the most part, Crowley didn't really write about him....

There's a link in my previous post containing Grant's statement and his breakdown regarding the image... take a look at that.

they aren't the same kind of beings...

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Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 said:Could you maybe zoom in or highlight some of those details in the photo? Check out this image: http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/lam2.gif

Spirals on both sides.

Three large circles and three small ones... if you look at how they’re positioned, it almost feels like a nod to the Tree of Life as a model of The Spiritual Universe.

It’s actually pretty surprising when you think about it, especially since they’re leaning so heavily on the Tree of Life as a model of The Spiritual Universe.
When we talk about the spiritual universe, there’s a certain inevitability to how we perceive it. If you take the approach of using the Tree of Life as a model of The Spiritual Universe, you’re essentially setting a specific lens in place. It’s like looking through a telescope versus a microscope; once you pick your tool, your entire field of vision changes. In this framework, using the Tree of Life inevitably means that you will see Lam and Aiwass as alien spirits fra another Universe , and that The Greys arrived in UFOs. It’s an easy logical leap to make when you're working within those specific geometries. However, we have to be careful not to get lost in the metaphor. The truth is that Lam and Aiwass and The Greys ara spirits in this Universe. They aren't outsiders peering in from some distant galaxy; they are part of the fabric of our own reality, just perhaps operating on a frequency we aren't used to tuning into.
Using The Tree of Life inevitably means that you will see Lam and Aiwass as alien spirits fra another Universe , and that The Greys arrived in UFOs. But let's be real here—the truth is that Lam and Aiwass and The Greys ara spirits in this Universe. It’s like looking at a map of the subway system and thinking the tracks exist in a different dimension just because they don't follow the surface streets. They're right here under our feet, part of the same fabric we're all woven into.
Using The Tree of Life inevitably means that you will see Lam and Aiwass as alien spirits fra another Universe , and that The Greys arrived in UFOs. The truth is that Lam and Aiwass and The Greys ara spirits in this Universe.
This universe—it’s simply that they have been around for an incredibly long time....

Brenda Cook4 Karen Sanchez19 said:It’s quite a shocker, really, especially when you consider they’re leaning on the Tree of Life as a model of The Spiritual Universe.
The spiritual landscape is a complex web. Using The Tree of Life inevitably means that you will see Lam and Aiwass as alien spirits fra another Universe , and that The Greys arrived in UFOs. It’s an inescapable consequence of the framework. You follow the logic to its conclusion, and suddenly, the cosmic hierarchy shifts beneath your feet.
Using The Tree of Life inevitably means that you will see Lam and Aiwass as alien spirits fra another Universe , and that The Greys arrived in UFOs. It’s an easy trap to fall into—much like mistaking a reflection in a mirror for a person standing in the room. You see the image, you react to it, but you miss the reality of the glass itself. The truth is that Lam and Aiwass and The Greys ara spirits in this Universe. They aren't visitors from some distant galaxy or a different dimension; they belong right here. To think otherwise is just another layer of cosmic delusion.
Using The Tree of Life inevitably means that you will see Lam and Aiwass as alien spirits fra another Universe , and that The Greys arrived in UFOs. The truth is that Lam and Aiwass and The Greys ara spirits in this Universe.
This universe—it’s simply a matter of their staggering antiquity..

That is a keen observation. Truly.😁

Brenda Cook4 said:they aren't the same beings...

THEY ARE!

goldenharbor said:THEY ARE!

Explain your position.😁

That’s what Kenneth Grant mentions in a letter to Z. M. Slavinska.
Why wouldn't I take his word for it?

Leviathan said:It's just like how Alan Watts mentioned it in a letter to H. P. Blavatsky.
I mean, why wouldn't I take his word for it?

Any chance you could drop a link to that letter?

...Yeah, someone actually asked where the image was first published—Aleister Crowley was the only one to include the picture in his Dead Souls exhibition over in Greenwich, New York City. But the thing is, the image served as an illustration for H. P. Blavatsky's book, "The Voice of The Silence," and Blavatsky actually wrote right under the picture: "
Lam is The Tibetan Word for Way or Path , and LAMA is He Who Goeth , The specific Titl of The Gods of Egypt , The Treader of The Path , in Buddhistic
phraseology.
"

I can't, unfortunately. You can take that or leave it.😈