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Jerry Moore2 Jerry Moore2 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
It feels to me like product marketing and actual go-to-market strategies are barely even mentioned on this forum.
So, I’m starting a new thread specifically to tackle that.
Right now, I’m working on a project—it’s a quick-service/takeout chain that sells nothing but freshly made soups from all over the world. You can eat in or grab it to go. We’re targeting people who don't have the time to cook at home, so this is their chance to actually eat something warm and healthy instead of junk. The locations will be strictly near major business hubs.
The project is pretty interesting, and I’d love to dig into strategic methods regarding placement, packaging, promotion, market entry, trademarks, and all that good stuff.
This is my first time ever doing something like this. Whether it succeeds or fails, the experience itself is going to be massive.
Does anyone here have any experience launching a new product, whether it was a real-world gig or just theoretical? 🙂

Regarding the strategy itself, I recently came across an interesting book called 'Red Ocean Strategy' that describes ways to dodge the competition by bringing something completely fresh and different to the table (basically, how to make the competition irrelevant).
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/159...lance&n=283155
coastalbison6 coastalbison6 Active Member
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#2 ·
That’s an interesting take, though I think your intro is a bit contradictory.

...the strategy is basically set.
--> "...it's a quick-service/takeaway chain selling nothing but freshly made soups from around the world. You can eat in or grab it to go, targeting busy people who don't have time to cook at home but want something warm and healthy. The locations would be strictly near major business hubs..."
...and yet you're debating the strategy.😕

As far as I know, you're working in the USA, so we can talk shop, but nobody can really help you much—Everpora and the USA are worlds apart when it comes to "convenience food."
Even with a killer marketing plan designed for Austria, you'd fail 100% in the USA—and vice versa.
I'm pretty deep into these topics myself; packaging design, marketing, and then convenience food, in that order.😬

With just freshly cooked soup, you'd fail in Austria in no time at all...
I might be heading to the IMF in Birmingham this April, so maybe we could catch up there.
...but I'd actually prefer being at Sysco in Los Angeles a week before.😎
Jerry Moore2 Jerry Moore2 Active MemberOP
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joined Oct 2003
#3 ·
It’s actually great having an expert on the forum.👍
I’m pretty sure this will grab everyone else's interest too.
This is my first time tackling something like this—just a preliminary phase for a personal project of mine... which is a little unconventional 🙂...

So, the chain already has a name: 'Mia Zuppa'.

Regarding the strategy itself... you're right, it’s somewhat defined, but not entirely.

The concept is a 'soup cafe.' There are already a few chains out there, so it’s not some 'brand new idea with a shaky future.'
http://www.coventgardensoup.co.uk/the_range.htm

Those guys at 'Covent Garden Soup' (who are already established) run small shops, but they also manage large food chains.

The big difference between them and my project would be that Covent Garden sells their own proprietary blends, whereas 'Mia Zuppa' would focus on world-famous soups and broths—the heavy hitters from every culture, like:

Avgolemono (Greek)
Gazpacho (Spain)
Vichyssoise (France)
Cioppino (Cioppino)
Minestrone (Italy)
Cold Winter Congee (China)
Kimchi (South Korea)
Borscht (Russia)
Goulash (Canada)
Pasulj (North America)
Consomme de Mer (France)
Guthuk dumpling soup (also known as ninth soup or mom soup) (Tibet)
=>there is tradition connected with this soup... it's eaten during the Tibetan
new year and it requires nine different ingredients, plus you have to eat nine
bowls... 🙂 etc...
Scotch broth (Scotland)
Knepfla Soup (Germany)
Biersuppe (beer soup) (Germany)
Caldo Verde (green soup) (Portugal)
Tarhan Soup (Turkey)
Artsoppa (pea soup) (Sweden)
Veal bone soup (made with veal bones) (USA)
Noodle soup with pork (China)
Miso soup (Japan)
Mulligatawny (Anglo-Indian)
French onion soup (France)
Bonfire Warmer (British)
Brown Windsor Soup (British)
etc., etc...

Every day, we'd rotate five different options from this famous list... strictly traditional stuff, none of that made-up, trendy nonsense.

On top of that, the sales model is self-service. Think cafeteria style—a line featuring five different heated soup kettles (http://www.cateringwarehouse.com/mal...e/CW0145/41248) with a sign above each one detailing its country of origin, history, ingredients, nutritional info, and so on.
Basically, people walk in, pick their soup, and serve themselves into either a paper cup or a bowl (depending on whether they want to eat in or grab it to go). In the downtown business districts, soup is usually served with a piece of bread in a plastic or paper cup—kind of like coffee; it's cheaper if you take it to go than sitting in a cafe, and then you just head over to the bread station (which would have a few varieties) before hitting the register.

I'm laying this all out because the product creation process is genuinely interesting, and I think it's good to swap experiences. Usually, people stay tight-lipped about their ideas until they've actually launched them, but for me, there's nothing at stake here—it's not like I'm risking my life savings. Since it's not "mine" to guard, I'd love to hear your comments, critiques, or any ideas you might have.
Jerry Moore2 Jerry Moore2 Active MemberOP
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#4 ·
Honestly, the first thing Mia Zuppa needs to do is start selling semi-prepared dinners—you know, for those people dragging themselves home from work late. They’re sick to death of that processed industrial junk, but they don't exactly have a massive budget for dining out every night every day.

They should have a whole section dedicated to fresh, homemade sauces and sides—classic, famous traditional dishes from all over the world that people actually recognize and have probably tried before.
coastalbison6 coastalbison6 Active Member
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#5 ·
Jerry Moore2 said:Another thing Mia Zuppa should sell is semi-prepared dinners—for people getting home late from work who are bored with processed frozen meals but can't afford to eat out every night..

They could have a section for fresh sauces and sides, featuring those famous traditional dishes from around the world that people already know and love.

Honestly, that kind of food feels totally foreign to me, and I’d probably never eat it.
I was at the Nestlé trade show a few months ago doing some research, and I ended up hanging out more with the British crowd because their diet seemed so strange to me. And don't even get me started on Americans—it was basically all plastic food.🤮

But there is a basic marketing principle here:

If you have a new product $\rightarrow$ define your target customer.
If the business is established $\rightarrow$ define your audience.
...which means: gender, age, education, income level, etc.

Don't just sell soup; sell the specific feeling that resonates with your audience, and let the soup come along with it.🙂

That's a pretty broad way of putting it—the actual details go much deeper than that.
Walter Myers4 Walter Myers4 Regular
355 messages
joined May 2004
#6 ·
You also have access to that killer book by Philip Kotler, "Marketing Management." 😁

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/013...lance&n=283155
Jacob Wood9 Jacob Wood9 Active Member
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joined Jun 2008
#7 ·
Jerry Moore2 said:Pasulj (North America)

🤣 🤣 🤣

I suppose the real trick is just making sure you have every flavor profile covered somewhere in the rotation.😈
Michael Adams7 Michael Adams7 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2006
#8 ·
Alright, so do you actually have a packaging concept, a design, an ad campaign, or any kind of established visual identity yet? Are we starting from scratch here, or are you looking to overhaul something that already exists? You’ve definitely opened up a good conversation, regardless of whether your specific situation is the silver bullet that solves the grand mystery of marketing once and for all.

Marketing is certainly a philosophy and a complex science, but there's a certain charm to its simplicity. Sometimes, one tiny little idea just pops into your head at exactly the right moment—and suddenly, the entire future of a product or a company changes.

Ona007 said:It feels to me like product marketing and actual market entry strategies are barely mentioned on this forum.
So, I'm starting a new thread specifically on that topic.
Right now, I'm working on a project involving a chain of quick-service takeout spots that exclusively sell fresh soups from around the world. It’s eat-in or grab-and-go. We're targeting people who don't have the time to cook a healthy meal at home, so this gives them a chance to eat something warm and nutritious. The locations will be strictly near major business hubs.
The project is pretty interesting. I'd love to discuss strategic methods for placement, packaging, promotion, product launch, trademarks, etc.
This is my first time handling something like this. Whether it succeeds or fails, the experience itself will be valuable.
Does anyone here have experience launching a new product, whether it's real-world or just theoretical?🙂

As far as strategy goes, I happened to pick up an interesting book called 'Red ocean Strategy' which describes ways to avoid competition by bringing something entirely new and different to the market (essentially making the competition irrelevant).
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/159...lance&n=283155

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