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Emily Price6 Emily Price6 Newcomer
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#321 ·
Greetings!

Could someone please walk me through how importing from China actually works? I'm looking at an offer that says "free shipping via FedEx," but I'm confused about what that truly covers. Does that mean the cost of getting the goods all the way to Washington, D.C., including export clearance? Or am I still on the hook for hiring a freight forwarder, paying import duties, and handling sales tax? I'm also debating my strategy: would it be smarter to just pay them an EXW invoice and handle the logistics myself using FedEx or UPS—perhaps negotiating with a carrier to pick up the package—or should I just pay the Chinese supplier upfront for the shipping so they can handle the dispatch directly?

Any help would be greatly appreciated—feel free to slide into my DMs if that's easier!
Thanks in advance!
rowdysurfer94 rowdysurfer94 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2012
#322 ·
Hey guys, can anyone give me some insight on what freight forwarders actually charge for their services? Like, what does that fee even cover? Also, is there any way to get stuff shipped faster without breaking the bank? I'm looking at a box roughly 15x15x15 inches, maybe weighing around 22 pounds max.

thanks in advance for any help

I’m pretty much a newbie when it comes to importing stuff. So far, I’ve only managed to pull off maybe two or three small orders from China. Everything’s been smooth sailing so far, but I rarely get to order from the same supplier because I need a bunch of different items in relatively small quantities—usually just around 100 units per item.

thx

rene
Bryan Chase37 Bryan Chase37 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2012
#323 ·
Emily Price6 said:Greetings!

Could someone please walk me through how importing from China actually works? I'm looking at an offer that says "free shipping via FedEx," but I'm confused about what that truly covers. Does that mean the cost of getting the goods all the way to Washington, D.C., including export clearance? Or am I still on the hook for hiring a freight forwarder, paying import duties, and handling sales tax? I'm also debating my strategy: would it be smarter to just pay them an EXW invoice and handle the logistics myself using FedEx or UPS—perhaps negotiating with a carrier to pick up the package—or should I just pay the Chinese supplier upfront for the shipping so they can handle the dispatch directly?

Any help would be greatly appreciated—feel free to slide into my DMs if that's easier!
Thanks in advance!

If you go through FedEx, it’s generally cheaper if the Chinese suppliers handle the export themselves, since those export rates are typically lower than what you'd pay for imports. But in your specific case, since you mentioned the shipping is free, that shouldn't be much of a concern for you.
However, you absolutely will have to deal with the import side once it hits the States. You'll be looking at $33 for the Customs Bond Fee
and $10 for Processing Fees
plus a 25% tax on those two items, which totals $11
and then, of course, you have to factor in the standard sales tax based on the value of the goods.

rowdysurfer94 said:Hey guys, can anyone give me some insight on what freight forwarders actually charge for their services? Like, what does that fee even cover? Also, is there any way to get stuff shipped faster without breaking the bank? I'm looking at a box roughly 15x15x15 inches, maybe weighing around 22 pounds max.

thanks in advance for any help

I’m pretty much a newbie when it comes to importing stuff. So far, I’ve only managed to pull off maybe two or three small orders from China. Everything’s been smooth sailing so far, but I rarely get to order from the same supplier because I need a bunch of different items in relatively small quantities—usually just around 100 units per item.

thx

rene

The cost is entirely dependent on which agent you hire and which incoterms you settle on.
The path of least resistance is always letting the seller handle the heavy lifting: export, insurance, loading, transit, unloading, and delivery, leaving you to deal solely with the import side. That said, you might find a better deal if you manage some of those logistics locally here in the US.

Air freight is obviously the fastest route. Carriers like FedEx or TNT almost exclusively use planes for these types of shipments. Of course, air is also going to be the most expensive way to move anything.
wiredcrane13 wiredcrane13 Member
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joined Oct 2009
#324 ·
I should probably point out a few things here:

Even if you have free shipping, please keep in mind that sales tax is calculated based on the value of the goods plus the shipping cost—which is determined by the airline's standard rates—if the total value exceeds $100.

This specific practice applies strictly to air freight.

Bryan Chase37 said:If you go through FedEx, it’s generally cheaper if the Chinese suppliers handle the export themselves, since those export rates are typically lower than what you'd pay for imports. But in your specific case, since you mentioned the shipping is free, that shouldn't be much of a concern for you.
However, you absolutely will have to deal with the import side once it hits the States. You'll be looking at $33 for the Customs Bond Fee
and $10 for Processing Fees
plus a 25% tax on those two items, which totals $11
and then, of course, you have to factor in the standard sales tax based on the value of the goods.

The cost is entirely dependent on which agent you hire and which incoterms you settle on.
The path of least resistance is always letting the seller handle the heavy lifting: export, insurance, loading, transit, unloading, and delivery, leaving you to deal solely with the import side. That said, you might find a better deal if you manage some of those logistics locally here in the US.

Air freight is obviously the fastest route. Carriers like FedEx or TNT almost exclusively use planes for these types of shipments. Of course, air is also going to be the most expensive way to move anything.
feralgull13 feralgull13 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2012
#325 ·
Greetings, everyone!
I have two questions:
1.question
I am looking into importing some products from China—one of them I found listed on eBay and Amazon. To test the waters, I ordered a single item from a local seller who claimed it was shipping directly from China; I ended up waiting a full month and paid $10 for shipping, since he insisted it was coming straight from overseas. It was just a tiny 10cm x 10cm x 10cm box with a total value of $17. Now I am curious—how is it even possible for shipping from China to cost $10? Who actually manages those logistics? It seems like every marketplace in the US is flooded with these listings for random trinkets supposedly arriving direct from China. I want to order a few different items in small quantities just to see if the price-to-quality ratio holds up—so, what is the most cost-effective way to handle such a small shipment sent to a private individual?
2.question
Is there any massive wholesale warehouse within the US that stocks Chinese consumer goods—somewhere where it might actually be more profitable to visit in person due to lower minimum order quantities?
Carol Price4 Carol Price4 Regular
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joined Nov 2019
#326 ·
feralgull13 said:Greetings, everyone!
I have two questions:
1.question
I am looking into importing some products from China—one of them I found listed on eBay and Amazon. To test the waters, I ordered a single item from a local seller who claimed it was shipping directly from China; I ended up waiting a full month and paid $10 for shipping, since he insisted it was coming straight from overseas. It was just a tiny 10cm x 10cm x 10cm box with a total value of $17. Now I am curious—how is it even possible for shipping from China to cost $10? Who actually manages those logistics? It seems like every marketplace in the US is flooded with these listings for random trinkets supposedly arriving direct from China. I want to order a few different items in small quantities just to see if the price-to-quality ratio holds up—so, what is the most cost-effective way to handle such a small shipment sent to a private individual?
2.question
Is there any massive wholesale warehouse within the US that stocks Chinese consumer goods—somewhere where it might actually be more profitable to visit in person due to lower minimum order quantities?

You paid for shipping because that seller basically ordered it to his own house from China and then just passed it along to you...
You can find all those knick-knacks on eBay—just grab one or two pieces, pay via PayPal, and you're set (just make sure the seller is top-rated and offers free shipping so you aren't paying anything extra beyond the listed price).
2. There's stuff in Canada
goldenfox192 goldenfox192 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2010
#327 ·
Greetings, everyone.
I am an individual looking to import a specific batch of electronics—valued at roughly $500—from either China or Taiwan. My assumption is that I would need to hire a logistics firm to handle the heavy lifting, specifically the importation, freight forwarding, and customs clearance...
I have a few questions:
-What does a service like this typically cost?
-Do you have any recommendations? Ideally, I’d prefer a firm that maintains an office or branch in a city like Los Angeles.
Sophia Brooks4 Sophia Brooks4 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2012
#328 ·
Is there a specific price point where using a freight forwarder just isn't worth it?

For instance, I run an online boutique specializing in wedding dresses, and right now I just need to source one specific gown that isn't currently in my inventory. I don't want to overstock because this particular style isn't really a bestseller, so I’d likely just buy it through eBay—let's say it's $200 plus $20 for shipping.
Aside from those costs, what other fees should I be looking out for, and roughly how much would they add up to?
Bryan Chase37 Bryan Chase37 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2012
#329 ·
feralgull13 said:Greetings, everyone!
I have two questions:
1.question
I am looking into importing some products from China—one of them I found listed on eBay and Amazon. To test the waters, I ordered a single item from a local seller who claimed it was shipping directly from China; I ended up waiting a full month and paid $10 for shipping, since he insisted it was coming straight from overseas. It was just a tiny 10cm x 10cm x 10cm box with a total value of $17. Now I am curious—how is it even possible for shipping from China to cost $10? Who actually manages those logistics? It seems like every marketplace in the US is flooded with these listings for random trinkets supposedly arriving direct from China. I want to order a few different items in small quantities just to see if the price-to-quality ratio holds up—so, what is the most cost-effective way to handle such a small shipment sent to a private individual?
2.question
Is there any massive wholesale warehouse within the US that stocks Chinese consumer goods—somewhere where it might actually be more profitable to visit in person due to lower minimum order quantities?

The seller probably just places a direct order to your doorstep and pockets the difference on the shipping fees.
Bryan Chase37 Bryan Chase37 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2012
#330 ·
I just need to vent for a second about the absolute nightmare that is LCL shipping through FedEx.

To give you some context, we received an invoice for their services just two months ago, and the rates were sitting at
$35 per cubic meter for LCL
plus
$30 per cubic meter for the offloading service.

Now, out of nowhere, a new shipment arrives, and they’ve decided to jack the prices up to $60 and $55 respectively.
There isn't even a published price list to look at; they basically just pull numbers out of thin air whenever they feel like it.
And don't even get me started on the CISF fees—they've spiked from $19 all the way to $50.75.

It is honestly ridiculous. At this rate, it actually makes more sense to just book a full container, even if we end up filling less than half of it.
Bradley Wilson5 Bradley Wilson5 Member
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joined Nov 2010
#331 ·
Why would you even bother using Kopra? I’ve heard they basically do whatever they want, and people end up ditching their shipments because they refuse to pay for the services provided...
redgardener33 redgardener33 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2013
#332 ·
Hello there!
I am actually in the process of setting up my own business and looking to source some inventory from China, so I was hoping to pick your brains on a few things:
1. Is it actually feasible to consolidate goods from several different suppliers into a single container, and if so, what does that process look like?
2. If my order doesn't quite fill an entire container, am I still stuck paying for the whole thing regardless?
3. Are all containers standardized in size, or is there a variety—and just how massive are we talking here?
3. On a different note, if I have a single package roughly 30x50x80cm, what would be the most cost-effective way to ship that over to the States?
Please forgive my somewhat elementary questions; I suppose I am quite a novice when it comes to this side of things, so any guidance would be greatly appreciated. 😁
Carol Price4 Carol Price4 Regular
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joined Nov 2019
#333 ·
redgardener33 said:Hello there!
I am actually in the process of setting up my own business and looking to source some inventory from China, so I was hoping to pick your brains on a few things:
1. Is it actually feasible to consolidate goods from several different suppliers into a single container, and if so, what does that process look like?
2. If my order doesn't quite fill an entire container, am I still stuck paying for the whole thing regardless?
3. Are all containers standardized in size, or is there a variety—and just how massive are we talking here?
3. On a different note, if I have a single package roughly 30x50x80cm, what would be the most cost-effective way to ship that over to the States?
Please forgive my somewhat elementary questions; I suppose I am quite a novice when it comes to this side of things, so any guidance would be greatly appreciated. 😁

1. You definitely can—you just need a reliable agent over there to coordinate everything and inspect the goods. Otherwise, you're basically gambling that you won't end up with damaged products...
2. Ask your suppliers for shipping quotes, then check around locally to compare prices—look specifically for companies that handle LCL (less than container load) shipments.
3. There are the standard 20-footers and the massive 40-footers... here's a link so you can check out the actual dimensions.
mellowowl52 mellowowl52 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2013
#334 ·
I’ve been in talks with some suppliers over in China regarding various auto parts—everything from tires and rims to universal components and shock absorbers.

I need to know what specific standards and requirements this merchandise has to meet if I want to import it under a US business entity.

For instance, the tire brand I'm looking at is a local Chinese brand that's already being imported throughout most of Europe, so I assume it likely meets the necessary safety specs.

What about aluminum rims—what are the hurdles there?

And what's the deal with other parts like shock absorbers or exhaust systems?
Gerald Kern39 Gerald Kern39 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2013
#335 ·
Hey there!
Reading through the comments on this PDF, it feels like everyone is talking in circles without actually dropping any real numbers or specific examples regarding import costs.
I’ve been kicking around the idea of starting an LLC for a while now, and I think I’ve figured out my distribution strategy. My main headache is the import side of things—specifically how much it jacks up the unit price and whether importing this way is even worth the hassle.
For instance, I spotted this product on Alibaba.

So, here’s what I’m wondering:
1. How safe is it to buy directly through a site like this? And how can I beef up shipping security? Everyone keeps mentioning "agents"—what does that actually cost, and what am I really getting for my money? From what I gather, they have some kind of buyer protection similar to PayPal on eBay.
2. Regarding electronics, am I allowed to import gear this way? What specific standards does the merchandise need to meet to be legally sold here in the States (like needing UL certification instead of just CE)?
3. What are we looking at for shipping costs, and what other hidden fees should I prepare for? Give me a ballpark figure.
I’m looking at a first run of maybe 100 to 200 units at this price point. Roughly what would the final landed cost per unit be once everything—customs, freight, etc.—is factored in?

Any help would be huge, even though this is all still pretty theoretical right now... 🙂
Just to give you some context, I’ve got about $10,000 to work with, and sales in the US are basically a sure thing if I can nail down a decent wholesale price for this item.
Thanks in advance for any insight!
Michael Hayes8 Michael Hayes8 Member
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joined Apr 2010
#336 ·
I’ve done some wholesale trading through Alibaba with two different manufacturers, and honestly, I didn't run into any major headaches
Everything was handled online, and as for the money, I paid a deposit upfront and then cleared the rest once production wrapped up.

So, here’s how it went down: I had a contact at a warehouse in China who took possession of the goods and then coordinated the shipping over to Canada using a local freight forwarder. By the time everything landed, including all the shipping costs and taxes, my total came out to roughly $240 per square meter.

Since the product didn't require specific origin documentation or formal labeling, the whole process felt a lot more streamlined than usual.

I ended up paying via my personal bank account rather than running it through a business entity.

If you're looking at Alibaba, though, you really need to dig into how long a manufacturer has actually been active on the site; they often use their tenure as a sort of unofficial "guarantee" of reliability, which can be a bit misleading if you aren't careful.
Anyway, that's just my take on it based on what I went through.
Gerald Kern39 Gerald Kern39 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2013
#337 ·
Michael Hayes8 said:I’ve done some wholesale trading through Alibaba with two different manufacturers, and honestly, I didn't run into any major headaches
Everything was handled online, and as for the money, I paid a deposit upfront and then cleared the rest once production wrapped up.

So, here’s how it went down: I had a contact at a warehouse in China who took possession of the goods and then coordinated the shipping over to Canada using a local freight forwarder. By the time everything landed, including all the shipping costs and taxes, my total came out to roughly $240 per square meter.

Since the product didn't require specific origin documentation or formal labeling, the whole process felt a lot more streamlined than usual.

I ended up paying via my personal bank account rather than running it through a business entity.

If you're looking at Alibaba, though, you really need to dig into how long a manufacturer has actually been active on the site; they often use their tenure as a sort of unofficial "guarantee" of reliability, which can be a bit misleading if you aren't careful.
Anyway, that's just my take on it based on what I went through.

Thanks for the reply! I’m looking for more specific info regarding tech gear for the US market. If anyone has leads, I'd really appreciate it...

Got a few questions for you though... is this warehouse an actual agent?? And you probably mean $240 per cubic foot, right??
Michael Hayes8 Michael Hayes8 Member
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joined Apr 2010
#338 ·
Yeah, it’s me, and look, the warehouse isn't acting as an agent here, but my agent gave me specific instructions on where to ship the goods after he picked them up from Canada
Bradley Wilson5 Bradley Wilson5 Member
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joined Nov 2010
#339 ·
So, come on, tell me—how exactly do you manage to secure your market? If you're even willing to share
Gerald Kern39 Gerald Kern39 Newcomer
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#340 ·
Bradley Wilson5 said:So, come on, tell me—how exactly do you manage to secure your market? If you're even willing to share

I'm pretty sure I could move stuff like this fast, but only if the price stays low. We're talking maybe 1.5x the Alibaba price—so roughly $75—once you factor in all the import duties and taxes...

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