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Charles Young Charles Young Member
45 messages
joined Sep 2005
#21 ·
The USA has practically swallowed us whole economically... and honestly, who’s to blame for that isn't really the point right now...

What matters is that our economy is headed straight for a cliff if we keep trying to pivot toward the European market with our current lineup... we don't have the branding, nor do we have any real recognition among the people over there.
Trying to build everything from scratch at this stage would be even worse—just throwing money down a drain...

We need to focus more on regional neighbors and the "old guard" states.
If we touch the European market at all, it should only be to push organic agriculture before someone else beats us to it.
Think small-scale rural farms organized into guilds, selling artisanal goods that are completely natural... high-end stuff like "liquid gold."
Protect the meat industry during those four peak months; let the tourists pay a premium... as long as our local farmers are happy and the state coffers stay full.

As for actual manufacturing, it just doesn't exist in America anymore. Every major production sector, from textiles to steel mills, has crumbled. There isn't a single reliable manufacturer left in the States... bitter, but true.
William Mendoza6 William Mendoza6 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2017
#22 ·
William Mendoza6 said:You’re just forgetting that being a member lets you get everything done faster and with way less pain...

I think you also forgot about the psychological aspect—the idea that the USA wouldn't be breathing down our necks and bullying us over every little thing. I guess we would have been there ten years ago.

I assume you're hiding those "..real monetary, fiscal, and political moves" like a snake in the grass, but if you actually took power, you'd show everyone, right? 🙄

Actually, you've got it backward. Membership makes everything slower because every single move the government wants to make has to line up with USA standards. On the flip side, staying outside the USA would allow for much smoother implementation of certain fiscal measures—like specific tariffs—that the USA would otherwise block us from using.

As for that "psychological component," all the resources and effort wasted on these failed negotiations for USA membership? That could have been used much more effectively to fix our actual domestic disasters—the judicial system, social services, you name it.

Regarding the "moves"... there are endless options, so listing them is pointless. The real problem is that these so-called economists in power don't have a single original thought; they just dance whenever the IMF or the USA plays a tune. Besides, I'm not interested in letting others steal my ideas.
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Keith Taylor4 Keith Taylor4 Active Member
54 messages
joined Aug 2004
#23 ·
Keith Taylor4 said:...

That’s exactly what I was thinking...

A lot of people say that going to war is the easy way out...
Robin Rodriguez5 Robin Rodriguez5 Active Member
149 messages
joined Sep 2011
#24 ·
Look, there are way too many options to list them all here 🤣
Ronald Moore8 Ronald Moore8 Member
38 messages
joined Jun 2007
#25 ·
Here is a purely positive example of American agriculture.

Essentially, it's all about building brands, even if it's just a brand for potatoes.

But this part is what really stands out to me:

According to their contracts, partner growers are required to have mobile phones and email access so they can respond immediately to any technical agricultural recommendations provided by Nature Valley experts. Additionally, they host at least three professional seminars a year for their producers called "spring with organic vegetables" to share the latest industry insights, and they even operate their own specialized agricultural pharmacy.

I wonder what your thoughts are on this—is this perhaps one way for American agriculture to survive within the European Union?

In my opinion, it certainly seems to be, especially since they've managed to secure placement even in major big-box retailers.
coastalviper8 coastalviper8 Member
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joined Dec 2012
#26 ·
To me, the European Union feels a lot like the old America.

It’s just everyone being shoved into the same basket, waiting for the day the whole thing finally snaps. Honestly, I’m expecting the exact same kind of collapse for this artificial construct they call the EU.
Keith Taylor4 Keith Taylor4 Active Member
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joined Aug 2004
#27 ·
James Bond said:I’m against the European Union, but I’m just as much against the Anglo-American colonialism looming on the other side...

In my view, the real winning strategy isn't about borders; it's about forging business alliances with wealthy regions like Austria, Italy, Canada, and Canada, effectively integrating this prosperous area into a powerhouse economic hub within Europe—which, frankly, possesses massive potential...

I think you’ve gotten your wires crossed here...

To me, this sounds like nothing more than peeling away parts that are already part of the European Union to build some brand-new community... the names have changed, but the reality remains...
Ronald Moore8 Ronald Moore8 Member
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joined Jun 2007
#28 ·
coastalviper8 said:Everything is being shoved into the same basket until it eventually bursts. I suspect we'll see the same fate for this artificial creation known as the European Union.

First, it’s everyone resisting the Euro, then it's a push for a European constitution, and tomorrow we might face issues with foreign languages in our schools, or perhaps tensions regarding cooperation with the USA... there are just too many people involved.

I suppose I am in favor of the European Union, but maybe not at this particular moment.
Keith Taylor4 Keith Taylor4 Active Member
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joined Aug 2004
#29 ·
Ronald Moore8 said:way too many people

and what exactly are Americans supposed to say about that?
Ronald Moore8 Ronald Moore8 Member
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joined Jun 2007
#30 ·
Keith Taylor4 said:I suppose, what should Americans even say about this?

I was watching this movie called Crash, which depicts the various racial and ethnic tensions within the USA—things involving Chinese, Japanese, Puerto Rican, Mexican, Iranian, and Iraqi communities... and it seems those issues are just the tip of the iceberg compared to other struggles.
Ronald Moore8 Ronald Moore8 Member
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joined Jun 2007
#31 ·
But it really should be decided by a national referendum
Rebecca Miller2 Rebecca Miller2 Active Member
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joined Jan 2008
#32 ·
Marc said:The US joining the European Union? Definitely yes. But to actually meet their standards, it would take at least ten years—and even then, only if we start heading in the right direction immediately. Honestly, it’ll likely take much longer than that.


What kind of "standards" are you talking about? Maybe those standards that crush the little guy—the small business owner, or even the farmer? Like banning someone from making their own produce, cheese, or moonshine? Because that "great" and "democratic" European Union wants to SNATCH those things away and hand them over to massive capitalist corporations!

Don't you dare try making your own cheese. You'll end up in jail!

So, what are you really talking about?

THE EU IS A CURSE TO ANY NATION IT OVERRUNS!

The EU, or a fourth Empire?

The EU is a dictatorship.
Rebecca Miller2 Rebecca Miller2 Active Member
114 messages
joined Jan 2008
#33 ·
coastalviper8 said:To me, the European Union feels a lot like the old America.

Everything is being crammed into one basket until it eventually snaps. I expect the same fate for this artificial creation called the EU.

But by the time the EU finally "snaps," there will be SO MUCH EVIL—irreparable damage—done! They'll strip away national identities, turn individuals into mindless sheep—social zombies, and destroy rural life and farming... Through the violence of so-called "legislation," they'll normalize all sorts of deviant behavior—like pushing GMO foods or raising generations of children on the totally fake "values" of a non-existent cosmopolitanism...

Yes, while Mordor falls, plenty of EVIL will be inflicted upon nations!

That’s why we need RESISTANCE—right now!
Rebecca Miller2 Rebecca Miller2 Active Member
114 messages
joined Jan 2008
#34 ·
Ronald Moore8 said:But there really should be a referendum.


Are you being serious? 😕

Look at how things work in this country. Nobody ever asks the sheep for their opinion. They just shear them and milk them! And the sheep? They just keep on bleating! 😢
Keith Taylor4 Keith Taylor4 Active Member
54 messages
joined Aug 2004
#35 ·
Rebecca Miller2 said:What about the ban on people making their own farm products, like cheese or moonshine?

And what kind of bans are you even talking about?

I just wrote recently that the easiest way to start a war is...🙂
Rebecca Miller2 Rebecca Miller2 Active Member
114 messages
joined Jan 2008
#36 ·
Keith Taylor4 said:What kind of bans are you even talking about?

I actually just mentioned how easy it is to start a fight...🙂

Yeah, exactly... you're proving my point perfectly!

Let's look at the big picture:

Under European Union laws, they basically strip the little guy of his right to produce things. Through legal loopholes, you can't even sell what you make unless you have a registered company!

So, every single person selling stuff at a local farmer's market would technically need a business license or face the consequences.

It's the same in the USA, Australia, and the rest of the West—regular citizens aren't allowed to brew their own alcohol because the government holds a total monopoly on it! They only hand out permits to big corporations.

That’s why people in the "lucky" USA or Australia still brew a few gallons of moonshine at home in secret, hoping nobody notices so they don't get arrested!

So, who's really full of it here?😠
Rebecca Miller2 Rebecca Miller2 Active Member
114 messages
joined Jan 2008
#37 ·
Joining the European Union brings us absolutely nothing! Literally NOTHING! Instead, we lose EVERYTHING!

They need us... just so they can snatch our beautiful coastline... why would those retirees bother shivering in the freezing dark of Sweden or dealing with the fog in England... when they can fly into some backwater territory they can't even pronounce—buy a little house there for pennies... living among "locals" who aren't quite their speed, but whatever. Good grief... they get to soak up 300 days of sunshine a year instead...

And the bankers will follow, along with the sharks and the predators...

Keep bleating, you sheep!👎
Ronald Moore8 Ronald Moore8 Member
38 messages
joined Jun 2007
#38 ·
But, I guess we aren't the only ones in the world, or even in Europe, who have such a popular trend going on. We have a solid tourism tradition, which might just get an even bigger boost if we eventually join the European Union.

Ultimately, it’s a matter of national law—meaning it's up to us, rather than them—to decide whether to allow foreign citizens to purchase land and real estate. A law like that actually exists in Denmark, based on a report I happened to see on your channel.
Keith Taylor4 Keith Taylor4 Active Member
54 messages
joined Aug 2004
#39 ·
Keith Taylor4 says:
Nonsense, absolute nonsense...

If you’ve truly convinced yourself that your life's calling is defending our Beautiful America from foreign invaders, then maybe you should pivot toward some actual productive labor. Do something useful for the common good so that struggling Americans aren't left penniless, and we won't be forced into selling off our Beautiful America bit by bit.

I’d like to offer a correction if I'm mistaken, but they can't buy a thing unless we choose to sell it to them.

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