Charles Schwab financial advice

Anonymous said:There's actually a better way

we're listening to... 🙂 🙂

ambermaker13 said:Listen, here’s some financial advice:
$133 Life insurance at age 30.
$67 A 5-year housing savings plan.
After those 5 years, take all that cash from the housing fund and dump it into an investment fund.
Then, let the dividends from the fund pay off the life insurance premiums.
Can anyone actually BELIEVE this nonsense???

Kimberly Nguyen said:we're listening to... 🙂 🙂

If I'm following this correctly, you'd be paying $133 monthly for life insurance and $67 monthly into housing savings, and if you dump all that cash into a fund after five years, that fund would need to pull over a 30% return just to cover the insurance premiums. I don't see how that's realistic.

Some "financial advisor" pitched me this exact same scheme. Here is what I decided to do instead:

Life insurance risk at about $27 monthly, $140 monthly for housing, plus I put another $250 into an index fund. Then in five years, I'll move the housing savings into the fund and keep contributing roughly $167 monthly. Assuming the fund hits a 6-10% return—which is actually doable—I'll end up with way more cash after 30 years than if I had gone with the life insurance option.

Anonymous said:There's actually a better way

but seriously, are we really going to.....🥳

Come on, just get on with it 👋 👋 👋

Nancy Green7 said:If I'm following this correctly, you'd be paying $133 monthly for life insurance and $67 monthly into housing savings, and if you dump all that cash into a fund after five years, that fund would need to pull over a 30% return just to cover the insurance premiums. I don't see how that's realistic.

Some "financial advisor" pitched me this exact same scheme. Here is what I decided to do instead:

Life insurance risk at about $27 monthly, $140 monthly for housing, plus I put another $250 into an index fund. Then in five years, I'll move the housing savings into the fund and keep contributing roughly $167 monthly. Assuming the fund hits a 6-10% return—which is actually doable—I'll end up with way more cash after 30 years than if I had gone with the life insurance option.

And this was advice from a pro advisor at a retirement firm!
Could I believe it?
Now I see just how many people have absolutely no clue what they're doing. They are financially illiterate, and it's scary how easy it is to rip them off. Honestly, it's their own fault for not wanting to educate themselves, learn, or actually try to understand things... as if this doesn't affect their own lives.
The idea of putting money into housing for 5 years and then dumping it into a fund also sounds a bit ridiculous (actually, it's PATHETIC) because the US market grows by roughly 30% a year.
Why bother with housing and wait for the government to "give you something" when you could be making whatever you want in the capital markets over the next 5 years? (stocks, funds, bonds, Forex...) It’s TRULY RIDICULOUS!!!😘

It all comes down to what you're actually trying to achieve. You shouldn't be mixing insurance, savings, and investments.

Nancy Green7 said:It all comes down to what you're actually trying to achieve. You shouldn't be mixing insurance, savings, and investments.

Exactly 👍 , but some people just refuse to get it

The goal is always the same:
TOP-TIER INSURANCE!
TOP-TIER INVESTING!
TOP-TIER FINANCING!
Or maybe I've got that wrong?
Is anyone else actually aiming for something different?

First off, I don't see why everyone is getting so worked up about this...

Look, let's be real here:
- Take someone who’s strictly saving up to drop a massive down payment on a house in, say, Austin... their goal isn't life insurance; it's building a nest egg over a set number of years so they can actually afford that property...

- Or you've got parents (or even grandparents) wanting to set aside a specific amount every month for the next decade to build a college fund for a newborn or a toddler.
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In those specific scenarios, I wouldn't bother with life insurance at all, because frankly, that just isn't the objective I'm aiming for.

Spot on!
The market is absolutely flooded with financial products, and honestly, most savers or investors don't have a clue what they’re actually looking at.
Plus, you've got all these self-proclaimed "financial advisors" running around out there pushing products they clearly don't understand themselves. If you actually ask them which ones they prefer, they start stuttering or acting all awkward.
I mean, how can someone call themselves a financial advisor when they're drowning in credit card debt and don't even have $10,000 in their own investment portfolio?
It's a joke!
For me, FIDELITY INVESTMENTS is the only way to go; I need someone looking at the big picture across all global markets who actually knows the full spectrum of products.
Being INDEPENDENT means you aren't just juggling four different insurance companies, three mutual funds, and two banks.

ambermaker13 said:Spot on!
The market is absolutely flooded with financial products, and honestly, most savers or investors don't have a clue what they’re actually looking at.
Plus, you've got all these self-proclaimed "financial advisors" running around out there pushing products they clearly don't understand themselves. If you actually ask them which ones they prefer, they start stuttering or acting all awkward.
I mean, how can someone call themselves a financial advisor when they're drowning in credit card debt and don't even have $10,000 in their own investment portfolio?
It's a joke!
For me, FIDELITY INVESTMENTS is the only way to go; I need someone looking at the big picture across all global markets who actually knows the full spectrum of products.
Being INDEPENDENT means you aren't just juggling four different insurance companies, three mutual funds, and two banks.

The concept of a genuine financial advisor—the kind that actually exists in the real world—doesn't exist here in America. All these self-titled "advisors" and the firms masquerading as such basically just advise clients to put their money wherever yields the highest commission for the advisor.
If you ask me why this is allowed to happen, it's because the market is practically begging for it, people crave the prestige (telling someone you have a financial advisor is like saying you have a Nobel Prize), and there is total chaos in the industry due to a lack of real, quality regulation or any actual oversight body keeping them in check.
Besides, even if a real expert did exist, they wouldn't be able to execute transactions on behalf of a client anyway, because most institutions—like big banks or investment houses—would reject them. They require the client's own signature, not some "advisor's" request.
Or am I totally wrong about this...

Fifty-fifty!
You’re kind of right, but also kind of off base.
The trick is just finding the right one—if the first person you talk to isn't a fit, you just gotta keep moving.
I’ll be the first to admit I burned through a lot of time and cash before I finally found the right match.
(Two years, actually) But hey, persistence pays off.
I’ve been working with my guy for over three years now, and honestly, I couldn't be happier.
They get paid EXCLUSIVELY from my gains—meaning if I’m winning, they’re winning.
That’s the only way it makes sense to me!
Unless I've got that backwards...

Oak. Just oak. There’s something about that word—it carries weight, doesn't it? It feels solid, unyielding, like something you could actually build a life on. I was walking through Central Park the other day, just staring up at these massive, ancient trees, and it hit me how much we lack that kind of permanence in our lives today. Everything is plastic, everything is cheap, everything is designed to break the second you look at it funny. But oak? Oak is different. It’s stubborn. It’s resilient. It stands its ground regardless of the weather, much like how I feel about certain things around here lately. You can't just rush the growth of an oak; you have to respect the process. We'd all do better if we treated our responsibilities—and maybe our neighbors—with half as much strength and stability as a good piece of American white oak. kaže:
Let’s go! Ready or not, here we come!
You’re kind of right, but honestly? You’re also dead wrong.
You just have to keep hunting until you find the real deal. If the first one you run into isn't the right fit, don't settle—keep looking.
I have to come clean here—I’ve wasted an absolute fortune in both time and hard-earned cash before I finally stumbled upon the real deal. It was a total drain, honestly.
It’s been two years. Two long, grueling years. But honestly? Looking back at everything I went through, the persistence absolutely paid off.
I’ve been working with them for over three years now, and honestly? I couldn't be more satisfied.
They only get paid if there's actual profit on the table. Period. It’s strictly performance-based—if I’m winning, they’re winning. If I'm losing money, they don't touch a dime. That's the only way to ensure everyone is actually pulling in the same direction.
That’s the only thing that actually makes sense to me!Maybe I’ve got this completely backwards...

Way to go! 👍

Can you just send over the details? Like, who exactly is involved and what’s the deal? Maybe just hit me up in a DM if that's easier.

ambermaker13 said:Fifty-fifty!
You’re kind of right, but also kind of off base.
The trick is just finding the right one—if the first person you talk to isn't a fit, you just gotta keep moving.
I’ll be the first to admit I burned through a lot of time and cash before I finally found the right match.
(Two years, actually) But hey, persistence pays off.
I’ve been working with my guy for over three years now, and honestly, I couldn't be happier.
They get paid EXCLUSIVELY from my gains—meaning if I’m winning, they’re winning.
That’s the only way it makes sense to me!
Unless I've got that backwards...

Agreed. It only makes sense if they're paid out of the gains. Shoot me a DM with the names of the advisors you're using. Thanks in advance.

I honestly found my best advice right here on this forum and a few others. It’s all about finding those advisors who don't charge crazy commissions—they often know way more than those big firms mentioned earlier. At least they keep you from being blindsided. Everything else just comes down to having guts and using your head. Honestly, ambermaker13's take on "active investing" was a total eye-opener for me. Thanks, ambermaker13!

You're welcome!
The whole point of this thread is for us to swap stories and trade info.

jademoose10 said:The reality is that while the internet is full of noise, it lacks the hard data needed for actual calculations.

Look, I’m clearly out of my depth here, so maybe you can walk me through this—what does a financial advisor actually do?
1. Are you just telling people where to stash their cash in a savings account? Or
2. Are you advising them on where to invest so they actually see a return and have enough to live on?

I don't have much use for whatever "insurance" or "savings plans" you're talking about; I'm strictly looking for something like option number two.😎

steelmaker said:There’s definitely some chatter about it, but whether it actually passes remains to be seen...
If a model like that ever goes through, it’s going to be a disaster for both the public and the professionals in the industry.
Just imagine if you walked into a grocery store and they were only allowed to sell you one specific brand of toothpaste.
It's bad for the store, it's bad for the shopper, and honestly, it isn't even good for the product itself.

Can anyone say where you work as a financial advisor? (Assuming you actually are one)

Charles Martin31 said:So, I actually went to an Allianz seminar because this girl from my college wouldn't stop raving about them. They had their big regional director there—the guy who basically runs the whole show for the US. Here’s the reality: if you want the actual truth—like how they really make money, what my actual paycheck would look like, or what the day-to-day job even entails—you have to read between the lines. They spend the whole time talking up massive commissions, rapid promotions, and constant travel, but underneath all that gloss, it’s just pure exploitation. Most people at the seminar looked completely broke. The advice they give is so incredibly shallow; honestly, I was doing better market analysis than that during my freshman year of college. Their partners are mediocre at best in every single category, which is exactly why they use a company like Allianz as a partner—just to use that polished image to lure in some clueless person. My advice to all students out there? Just don't. Unless you are absolutely desperate, stay far away.
And let’s be real, those income claims are total nonsense. In all its "glory," the US branch of Allianz only has about 11 employees, and the average net salary is around $4,500. And keep in mind, we're talking about the leadership here.

1. I don't know exactly what your friend from school told you about Allianz.
2. Partners are mediocre across the board??? Citibank and JPMorgan Chase are mediocre in their fields, so who's supposedly at the top?? Silicon Valley Bank???
3. You said: ...my advice to students is no, unless they REALLY have to... My advice to students is NO, unless you have another source of income, because for the first few months, your commission is mostly going to be a couple hundred bucks.
4. Earnings are a lie?? Tell me, in what other job can you become a director in 5 years??? Assuming you start from zero—like, say, working a register at a grocery store (no offense, just an example)—how many years until she becomes a director if she works hard and moves up? How many years?? 1, 5, 10, 100??? Or is it impossible? In this business, you can be a director in 5 years if you put in the work (not saying work 24/7 right now) and your pay scales from zero to the moon.😛

It feels like this thread is ancient history, but then again, some things never change...

I recently sat down for a consultation at Bank of America. I ended up picking up a life insurance policy through them simply because it was already part of my plan—so I figured, why not just handle it there? (Though, naturally, the actual provider was Allianz)
The problem was, once that was done, I couldn't get that woman to stop calling me for ages...

Now, a friend has been nudging me to check out BlackRock (she’s actually trying to land a job there). It was that classic American approach: heavy on the slide decks, endless graphs, and spreadsheets filled with calculations that conveniently omit which specific fund or insurer is actually behind the product. A few pieces of info were actually helpful since I haven't been keeping up with the latest market shifts, but I also found myself getting frustrated. She spent so much time lecturing me on concepts I already understood, acting as if she needed to explain the basics to me, and I ended up wasting far more time than I intended listening to her.

So, here is my question:
Does anyone here have experience dealing with BlackRock? If so, what was it like? 😁
And if I do decide to sign something with them, how persistent are they once you've already closed the deal?