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The struggle of living abroad

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darkcanyon13 darkcanyon13 MemberOP
28 messages
joined Dec 2005
#1 ·
Here’s a look at how our buddy Vukašin and his crew are struggling just to make ends meet:

Is hard work really the silver bullet?!

I think I finally get where they're coming from now. It makes it a little easier to empathize with them instead of judging those—let's call them "unconventional"—views of theirs. 😢 😢 🙂
silenthawk11 silenthawk11 Regular
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joined Apr 2007
#2 ·
You have truly impressive legs. 👍

😂 😂
quietmason58 quietmason58 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Dec 2004
#3 ·
It’s a mess, honestly. Even Social Security in Germany isn't what it used to be. I wonder if they actually receive a pension for that?
Raymond Turner6 Raymond Turner6 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Jan 2005
#4 ·
I honestly feel this article is a textbook example of journalists trying to manufacture a controversy out of thin air. It’s just not true that anyone is being forced into employment under threat of losing their social safety net or benefits.
Michael Sullivan3 Michael Sullivan3 Active Member
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joined Sep 2006
#5 ·
darkcanyon13 said:I feel like I can finally understand them better without judging their, shall we say, twisted perspectives. 😢 😢 🙂

You’re talking about twisted perspectives?

What kind of perspective is mocking people who are unemployed—especially in a hostile environment like post-war Germany—where some are actually forced into sex work just to survive the month? Mothers who have to sell themselves just to put food on the table for their kids? Women who see no other way out than the streets, some even being coerced because it's their only alternative to ending up in the ER?

Bravo.

Let's all join in and laugh at them.

That's just how humans act!

And darkcanyon13 is just a champion for women and a textbook American "liberal." 👍
crimsonorca86 crimsonorca86 Active Member
60 messages
joined Jun 2007
#6 ·
Back when FDR was still around, you didn't see any seniors in America having to dig through trash cans just to scrape by, and you certainly didn't have mothers forced into desperate situations just to put food on the table for their kids
We really owe George Washington for finally bringing us out into the light
Olivia Nguyen4 Olivia Nguyen4 Member
38 messages
joined Sep 2008
#7 ·
crimsonorca86 said:Back when Franklin D. Roosevelt was in power, no senior citizen in this country ever had to scavenge through trash cans just to make ends meet, nor were mothers forced into such indignity to put food on the table for their children.
We owe it to Ronald Reagan for finally leading us toward the light.

Can anyone believe this?!!!???
rapidranger79 rapidranger79 Member
49 messages
joined Sep 2006
#8 ·
Olivia Nguyen4 said:Are you guys seeing this???!!!!???

What’s the big deal?
The concept of bankruptcy was practically unheard of before.
Losing your job? That's just pure fantasy.
Working hard but never actually getting paid? Impossible.
Employers skipping out on Social Security and healthcare taxes for their staff? Doesn't exist.

Sure, we all lived like drunken millionaires for a while... but now the government has left us with a massive debt, and who knows how deep that hole goes?

Bankruptcy? It's just part of daily life.
Actually finding a job? Total myth.
And even if you manage to land one, actually receiving a paycheck? Good luck with that!
Having an employer who consistently pays into your retirement and health insurance? You'd have to be the luckiest person alive.
silenthawk11 silenthawk11 Regular
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joined Apr 2007
#9 ·
The mother of Savka, along with an unknown,
Take a loan that you can never repay.

Oh!

😂
Gerald Bailey Gerald Bailey Member
22 messages
joined Jan 2006
#10 ·
rapidranger79 said:Whatever.
The word "bankruptcy" was practically unheard of back then.
Losing a job? Pure fantasy.
Working without getting paid? Impossible.
Employers skipping pension and health insurance contributions? Didn't exist.

Doing nothing while collecting a paycheck? Just another Tuesday... 🙂


Sure, we all lived on credit like a bunch of drunken millionaires... but now the country has left us with quite the tab. How deep does this hole go?

Bankruptcy? It's a daily occurrence.
Actually finding work? A total fairy tale.
And if you actually land a job, getting paid? Good luck with that!
An employer actually paying into your social security and healthcare? That's winning the lottery.

It's what happens when one group of hacks and con artists gets replaced by an even bigger, more incompetent, greedier, and more corrupt lot.
Robin Ramos2 Robin Ramos2 Active Member
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joined Oct 2007
#11 ·
Franklin D. Roosevelt and those German prostitutes 😵 😵
analogmason4 analogmason4 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Feb 2005
#12 ·
Elvis Presley said:So you're calling *those* views twisted?

What kind of attitude is it to mock the unemployed—especially in a struggling place like post-war Germany—where people are literally forced into sex work just to make it through the month? Mothers selling themselves to feed their kids... women who have no other choice but the streets, some even being coerced there just to stay out of the ER?

Bravo.

Let's just laugh at them then.

It’s pure human garbage...

And Flower Child is just a true defender of women and a real American "leftist." 👍

👍 👍 👍

Besides, who actually shows up to report it? Unemployment in the US is sitting at 20% anyway...😲
gentlesailor18 gentlesailor18 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2005
#13 ·
The text also touches on how certain people ended up stuck in what they call "humiliating" jobs (aside from the one involving sex work).
There is nothing inherently degrading about working; what’s truly humiliating is sitting on your hands and then having the audacity to blame everyone else for your own stagnation. I find that pattern all too familiar...
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PS—that’s exactly why I’m where I am today, rather than where I actually intended to be.
wearyranger35 wearyranger35 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2005
#14 ·
crimsonorca86 said:Back when Franklin D. Roosevelt was in power, no senior citizen in this country had to scavenge through trash cans just to survive, nor were mothers forced into sex work to feed their kids.
It's all thanks to Ronald Reagan for leading us into the light.

👍 👍 👍

What more is there to say... 😉 ...during the FDR era... 🙂

Scavenging through garbage was a socially condemned phenomenon back then... 😳

😉
crimsonorca86 crimsonorca86 Active Member
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joined Jun 2007
#15 ·
Gerald Bailey said:Getting paid to do absolutely nothing? That’s basically just life these days, isn't it? 🙂

Honestly, Franklin D. Roosevelt was a total genius, 👍
The GDP per capita back then actually outpaced what we’re seeing today.

The national debt for the US was only about 3.5 billion dollars; if you break it down, every single citizen owed roughly 500 bucks—which would be closer to 6,800 in today's money—and most of that buildup happened right after FDR passed away.

And get this: they didn't sell off a single inch of land to foreigners, nor did they hawk off even the smallest slice of our companies.

But the crowd that came after? They practically liquidated everything, selling off real estate and corporations left and right, while dumping two and a half times the size of the CIA into foreign banks.
Where did all that cash actually go, anyway?

Meanwhile, look at Mexico:
Official data shows that Mexico's external debt jumped by 3.9 percent in November compared to the same period last year, hitting 10.4 billion euros. Since the start of 2005, their total debt level has stayed pretty much flat, increasing by a measly 0.05 percent.


Even Mexico seems to have politicians who actually know what they're doing.

If they had taken out loans the way we have, and sold off as much of our national wealth as we did, their standard of living would be two and a half times higher than ours right now.
driftingdriver4 driftingdriver4 Member
28 messages
joined Apr 2007
#16 ·
wearyranger35 said:👍 👍 👍

what's even the point... 😉 ...back during FDR's era... 🙂

scavenging through trash was actually something society looked down on back then... 😳

😉

unknown, nobody had any reason to be digging through garbage back in FDR's day.
wearyranger35 wearyranger35 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Feb 2005
#17 ·
Exactly ... just like that ... 🙂

It really is a shame ... 😢

Because in a wealthier nation, even the trash is higher quality ... 👍

... and one can only imagine what today's refuse looks like ... 🙄

Or who exactly is digging through it these days ... 😢

😉
Robin Ramos2 Robin Ramos2 Active Member
89 messages
joined Oct 2007
#18 ·
go2slep said:The foreign debt for America was about $3.5 billion back then; everyone owed roughly $500 (which would be like $6,800 today), and most of that was racked up after the end of Titoism.

Monkey's stupidity is unreal. Three dollars from the seventies is worth like twenty bucks now. Plus, the interest rates those Titoist thugs were borrowing at were five times higher than what we see today. That’s why the US needed the IMF and constant debt restructuring by the early eighties, while all the private creditors were running away from the old regime like it was on fire—something that just wasn't happening with America.

We have already chewed through this entire argument, but I guess nothing can actually penetrate that thick skull of yours. Honestly, maybe a punch to the face is the only way to get through to idiots like you.
driftingdriver4 driftingdriver4 Member
28 messages
joined Apr 2007
#19 ·
Jim Morrison said:Total nonsense.

Honestly, hitting someone over the head might be the only way to get through to idiots like you.

When are we going to stop letting these forum fascists act like they have some exclusive right to talk down to everyone else?

Then you’ve got the so-called moderators banning some liberal just "for the sake of it," purely to juice their own stats.

Or when an admin shuts down a thread—just like they did with this one—basically just to sweep under the rug the fact that this entire sub-forum is a breeding ground for fascists who think they can bark whatever they want without consequences.
wearyranger35 wearyranger35 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Feb 2005
#20 ·
Either Crtica closes this thread to hide the fact that this subforum is just a breeding ground for fascists who can bark whatever they want.

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Hardly... 😲

😉

this entire forum is nothing more than a radical Islamist stronghold... 🙏 🙏 🙏

😉

😁

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