Stages of Spiritual Growth

I haven't actually read the book (obviously 🙄), and I didn't even know where that quote came from, but I can absolutely get behind the sentiment...
That said, a motto doesn't really tell you much about a person, especially if they just lifted it from somewhere else.
One of my favorite mottos actually belongs to a good friend of mine:
"Never argue with idiots. They will pull you down to their level and then beat you with experience."
No clue who originally said it, but I love it.
Thankfully, it isn't my own personal motto... otherwise, I'd have to live by it all the time. 😁

Jack Harris3 said:Of course the book matters! Honestly, the better you read, the more impressive I’ll look by association. Imagine the headline:
"hiddenpuma75 was so captivated by Lukicev's work, he practically dropped his book..."
So, seriously—go find the best, most gripping one you can get your hands on.
🙂

By the way, what’s your take on that Lukicev book I stumbled upon back in May at a little used bookstore in Washington, D.C.? The one about the New World Order and whether women should be leading, following, or just standing alongside men.😁

(I'm genuinely curious if they'll track us down on this thread and what kind of lecture or vocabulary they'll use to scold us two sinners!)😎 😉 👍

(As he puts it, it isn't a tragedy—it's just a natural sin,🙂
unlike the unnatural kind.)
(Plus, it’s quite an achievement in itself that we actually read his stuff!)

hiddenpuma75 said:(I’m honestly curious if they’ll even track us down on this thread... wondering what kind of lecture or punishment awaits the two sinners here...) 😎 😉 👍

(The way he puts it, though... it's not a sin, because it's just "natural" 🙂
as opposed to being unnatural...)
(And honestly, it feels like quite an achievement that we actually managed to read his book.)

I think you're being a little unfair to him. His whole point is that we belong to this world, so it’s no surprise we act the way we do... and since he's such a humble guy, he’d probably just suggest the best reading material out there: the Bible.
Maybe if he's feeling generous, he might even point us toward a specific part... like Song of Solomon... 😁

If that was the case, why did you leave Washington, D.C.? I ended up moving there just a few days later... 😢
Couldn't find you, and couldn't find Lukicev's book either. I went looking for it... 😁

Oh, please... spare me the compliments. I have spent my entire life trying to deflate this massive ego of mine (for those in the know regarding astrology... Sun in the 10th house, conjunct the MC), and here you all are, actively sabotaging my lifelong mission.

On a different note, I am currently reading R. A. Wilson, and I must say, his breakdown of the T.L. 8-part model provides perhaps the most accurate and faithful description of the human condition I have ever encountered. It is frankly terrifying; I even found myself reflected in his analysis, though admittedly at a rather low level.😁

The current 4-part model we use feels incredibly incomplete—it’s full of holes, much like a poorly constructed argument.

And what of Grant? To be perfectly honest... I am almost afraid to believe what he writes. It seems far more comfortable to simply join the mindless horde that disparages and spits on him.

P.S. S. Psice....beer was discovered by a culture that, in my estimation, was far more advanced than our present civilization. What alcoholic blessings has our modern society bestowed upon us? Absolutely none. (Not counting anything illicit, of course.)

One must still maintain a connection to natural substances😁 (hops, grapes, and the like).

Haha, I’m definitely team white grapes. 😁
Based on the few posts you've made that weren't strictly about the current state of global economics, I think I actually agree with hiddenpuma75 on this one... It’s a shame you aren't more of a firebrand, though, if I'm being honest. On one hand, it's a missed opportunity, but then again, I can't say I'm surprised... 🙂

Super Harvey said:If you ask me, Level 2 users are actually the easiest ones to read:

Here’s my take on which forum members fall squarely into Level 2:

Lucic (though he could honestly slide into Level 1 easily 😁), the whole Lucic crew (doshljak, znanac, passenger, submarine, and the rest), krschanin, Gorshin, Shady, Adura, and the other Muslims.
There might be a glimmer of hope for Adura to move up, though—it feels like he’s constantly wrestling with his own logic against some pretty rigid religious dogmas.

Baphomet is almost certainly at Level 3, and if I had to pick a top candidate for Level 4, it would have to be semargl.

Honestly, I have no clue where pesek Auuu would even fit in. 😕 😕

Whoa, wait—you’re putting me down to Level 2? 😕 😳

Man, you really let me down with that one.😲

It’s funny how that works... people who act like they’re on some pedestal, judging everyone else—without even knowing them—and trying to force them into boxes far below their own. 😕 🙄

No matter how much "enlightenment" someone thinks they’ve achieved, we still need to give others the breathing room and freedom to find their own path without being lectured constantly.

P.S. I’m a fan of Baphomet 😘, and honestly, they write incredible stuff. Some folks just haven't been around long enough to realize that.
Baphi salutations 👋

I have a genuine appreciation for Solaris, but unfortunately, since I’ve already reached the third stage of my own development, any affection I hold for it can only ever be intellectual in nature. That being said, if circumstances ever required it, I am certainly capable of lowering myself to a more basic level. 😁

Seriously, why are you guys piling on poor Howard like that? It’s your own fault for posting such mindless garbage. 😁
And Ryan Wilson2, you really have no room to talk. Some people post all day long, and Howard just ruthlessly sweeps them right to the bottom of the pile. You walk into a local pub, order a beer, and you're already at level three. Just imagine where you'd be if you actually bothered to write a post... 😁
As for me, I don't know what my standing is—not even poor Howard knows that—but if life ever forces me into a bus with hiddenpuma75, I know my level will be way lower than his. 😁😁 😁
Cheers to you, Howard. 😁

Ryan Wilson2 said:Look, I love Solaris, but honestly, since I’ve already reached the third stage of evolution, any connection I have with it has to be purely intellectual. Though, if the situation calls for it, I can always dial it back a notch. 😁

🙂 🙂 🙂 Yeah, exactly—intellectual, Platonic, spiritual... that's pretty much what I was thinking too. 🙂 Anyway, you already know my vibe.

Dog, watch out for hiddenpuma75! 😁 😁

Nah, he isn't doing anything to me. 😢🙂😢
😁

Jack Harris3 said:He isn't trying to pull anything with me. 🙂😢
😁

Hmm... I can't quite tell if that was said out of pure disappointment or just sheer overconfidence.😛

Honestly, what has happened to this world?😛

Everyone is just out here speculating about everything.

Even Howard is busy speculating and ranking people, despite the fact that he doesn't even know who anyone is!

-You've got Solaris and Pesica huddled together, conspiratorially swapping info and guessing about what hiddenpuma75 might be up to.😎

-And you know that old saying, right?

Don't go speculating about a horse—especially not a stallion you’ve never even ridden.😁 🙂

Or, in my own slightly improved version:

First, say "CRUNCH,"
a then... 👍Hop🙂

Just feeling pretty let down. 😁 I guess you can see me moping around a bit... 😁

Pesica, I honestly think you ought to consider beer as a legitimate tool for ascending the spiritual ladder.😁

While I consider myself a multi-dimensional being, I find that by carefully managing the influx or depletion of energy, I can leap from one plane to another, much like an electron shifting orbits.

There are certain instances where I have little desire for those lofty, transcendental states; quite frankly, I find low-frequency, lounge-style states much more agreeable.

And I’m fully prepared to be the villain here: I actually don't like beer. It’s just not my thing. Is there any chance I could get some of that Grasevin grape juice instead? 😁

The only way I’m staying in bed all day is if some knight comes along to whisk me away... 😁

I’m feeling incredibly centered today. Truly, my spiritual muscles are fully flexed and ready for action. I feel powerful. Honestly, I could probably take someone on in a fight right now if I felt the urge, but I won't. I have nothing to prove. My spiritual equilibrium is perfect. In fact, I think I just let a spirit slip by... so I really should head out of here.

I might just have to embrace whatever kind of madness is necessary, because what if this "insanity" is actually the very thing that makes a person creative in the first place?
..if everyone were perfectly rational all the time... honestly, the thought alone terrifies me. What would the world even become?😁

I’m not even going to bother mentioning the individual who started this thread; I’d much rather talk about my Grandpa😁

He really strikes a chord with me, so I’m going to back him up entirely.

"Fine. But seriously, folks, what is the point of all this sharing? Is it just a way for those people on the fourth level to convince themselves they're the spiritual elite of humanity?
And really, who has the right to claim which level is closer to God? We spend our lives categorizing ourselves into nations, religions, and endless little cliques... It's all so pointless. I saw a fantastic headline in the paper today—"There is only one man in the world." I didn't actually read the article, and I don't know if it had anything to do with spirituality, but that title really stuck with me! If you look at it closely, you see not only that there is only one man in this world, but that there is only one single being... in the exact same way we feel deep in our hearts that there is only one God!"

I know plenty of other people here who could explain this far more eloquently than I can, but you'll just have to settle for my rambling thoughts for now.
Instead of looking at things vertically, I'm going to lay them out horizontally for everyone.
See, there aren't these rigid hierarchical levels, but rather different "realms" that vary based on how they function... For instance, one realm might be defined by its focus on partnership structures, creating its own archive and gathering its data primarily through interaction... Another realm might manifest through the mind, while a third focuses on the heart, or ideals, and so on.
In this view, we are all competing on an equal playing field, differing only in how we choose to present ourselves to the world.
>>which ties directly back to my Grandpa's symbolic theory—his idea of the "one man," which symbolizes the solidarity and fundamental similarity among all humans.
Now, as for whether there truly is only one God... I couldn't tell you. You'd have to ask Him, or perhaps ask them... though the real question is whether they even bother to pay attention to us at all. It feels like we're the ones constantly preoccupied with them.

Dear friends,
Since it seems like only children and animals—along with plants, which I feel a deep connection with—truly understand my energy and who I am... blah, blah, blah...
I’m more than happy to dive into Transurfing or any other literature you might suggest. My so-called long-time friends have all drifted away (let's just say we had our differences and decided to stop playing nice), and now that I am truly on my own, I wonder: do you find that balance within yourselves—that equilibrium between the mind, the spirit, and the physical body?
I suppose there is a formula for balance, and peace is everywhere, but... but... feels like something is still missing, doesn't it? 😆
Yes or no? 🙏