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Eric Adams - Mayor of New York City, Part 4

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Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
402 messages
joined Jul 2016
#981 ·
Dear Ski Resort, I remember you well.

I used to be your biggest advocate, but honestly, I’ve reached my limit; I can no longer stomach watching leadership follow the path of a certain former mayor, treating essential infrastructure like nothing more than superficial cosmetic touch-ups.
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
372 messages
joined Jan 2019
#982 ·
So, yesterday at exactly 3:00 PM, that old recycling truck rolled up—you know, the one that picks up paper, plastic, and yard waste. For once, it wasn't making that nasty, grinding sound from the engine or the compressor that's been driving me crazy for years. I guess they finally decided to actually service the damn thing.

Then this morning, over my coffee, there’s just endless complaining because the trash didn't get picked up again. The whole neighborhood is swearing under their breath while dragging bins down to the intersection where we're supposed to group them, and once they empty them out there... 🙂

It looks like those new trucks they promised might have actually arrived, since the city hasn't even registered this old junker yet, and the local HOA busybodies haven't flagged it on their radar.
Paul Reyes5 Paul Reyes5 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Jun 2024
#983 ·
Sam Wright21 said:Dear Ski Resort, I remember you well.

I used to be your biggest advocate, but honestly, I’ve reached my limit; I can no longer stomach watching leadership follow the path of a certain former mayor, treating essential infrastructure like nothing more than superficial cosmetic touch-ups.

Huge projects like this... they don't just happen in a vacuum, you know? They require backing from various federal departments and the courts, since everything is tied together at the national level. So, when New York City puts forward a proposal for a genuinely solid project, a department like the Department of Commerce can basically just step in and say:
I mean, I guess we’re looking at some incomplete documentation here, which—honestly—is just par for the course lately, isn't it? It’s like everyone expects things to just magically click into place without actually doing the legwork, and maybe that's just my cynical take, but it feels like we're constantly tripping over missing paperwork because nobody bothered to double-check the files before hitting send.
I mean, if you really sit down and look at the big picture, I guess it’s pretty obvious that this project isn't exactly a matter of strategic importance, or at least that's how it feels to me. It just doesn't seem to carry that kind of weight, you know? Maybe I'm overthinking it, but it honestly feels like a bit of a non-issue in the grand scheme of things.

And then, I guess, you eventually hit one of those annoying little roadblocks where everything just grinds to a halt because some official needs to verify a document or a certification, or whatever. It’s always something like that, isn't it? Just a sudden, frustrating stall in the whole process while they double-check some piece of paper.
I mean, I'm fully aware that this is going to be a massive uphill battle, honestly. But, if a platform like We Can! manages to actually pull off winning a few terms in a row, things would probably start looking a whole lot better around here, I guess. 🙂

So, imagine this scenario: you’re a landowner, right? And then out of nowhere, the city comes knocking on your door with an offer to buy your plot. Now, I guess most people would see that as a golden opportunity, but let's be honest—some folks just get a little too excited when they sense a payday. They start thinking they can squeeze the city for some ridiculous, inflated price way above what the property is actually worth on the market. It’s that classic move where someone sees a chance to get greedy and tries to play hardball. But what’s the actual move there? In my opinion, a sensible, level-headed administration—you know, the kind that isn't looking to burn through taxpayer money—would probably just walk away from a deal like that. If a citizen wants to be greedy, maybe the city just decides it's not worth the headache and moves on.

I guess if you look at the crowd over at the Democratic Party, you’ll notice there’s a massive influx of young people who are, frankly, incredibly well-educated. They’re all pretty much tethered to one another through social media and endless Zoom calls, which I suppose is just how things work now. For most of them, this is probably the very first political organization they've ever actually engaged with in their lives. It feels like that initial period of finding your footing and figuring out the ropes is just a natural part of any political movement maturing, I mean, it's basically just a growing pain you have to go through.

I guess I’m just one of those people who happens to be more patient than most, if that makes any sense. I mean, look, I get it—the sanitation crews have to take sick days, they need their vacation time, all that. But let’s be real here for a second; it isn't exactly rocket science to call in sick for five working days and somehow perfectly stitch that together with a four-day weekend. It happens, I suppose.

Look, I get it—being a critic is easy, and honestly, sometimes it's necessary. But I feel like people forget that you have to actually account for the institutional heavyweights and the bureaucratic machinery that essentially gives the green light to these kinds of projects in the first place. It’s not just about whether an idea is good or bad in a vacuum; there are massive structural factors at play that dictate what actually moves forward.

So, if you actually wanted to, say, fix a railroad crossing—not that anyone’s really rushing to do that—you’d need a whole circus of bureaucracy involved. I mean, you’d need the relevant federal agencies, the courts, and probably some handful of random government bureaus just to get the ball rolling. You'd definitely be looking at the Department of Commerce and whatever funding they've earmarked through the European Union. But honestly, even all that wouldn't matter if you didn't have the citizens stepping up, too. You'd need people willing to actually organize themselves, maybe start some petitions, or find those rare enthusiasts who actually bother to show up to neighborhood association meetings. Though, I guess even those local reps were elected under some completely different set of rules ages ago, so everything is kind of a mess anyway.

Real improvements require this whole mosaic of different players actually pulling in the same direction, I guess. And look, that isn't just some pathetic, empty platitude—it really does have to be that way if we want anything to change. There’s an entire network of streets across New York City that have been systematically neglected for ages, and honestly, it's a mess. It takes time, you know? We can't exactly just roll up, throw out some scaffolding, grab a bucket of paint, and start slapping color on private property facades whenever we feel like it. That's just not how things work here.🙂

I guess we just need to have a little more patience and focus on the continuity of the mandates we've already secured. You have to remember, at the end of the day, we’re talking about people who are fundamentally decent and morally upright. Just think about the folks living right there in your own neighborhood in New York City. I can personally vouch for them—there isn't a single cruel, deceitful, or malicious soul among them. They're just well-bred, approachable, cultured, and sensible people, really.
You really need some serious political seasoning for this kind of thing—that specific knack for handling opponents who, out of nowhere, decide they’re suddenly the world's leading experts on protecting children or saving the environment.🍿 I mean, honestly, it just feels totally unnatural to me. I guess they’ve probably never actually bothered to pick up a single piece of corn, rice, or a chestnut from the ground just to take a good look at it, you know? It seems unlikely they'd ever get that close to the actual stuff.😁

Don't let it get you down, honestly. I mean, look at this place—it’s basically just a playground where various special interest groups come in to shout whatever their handlers told them to say, which is kind of predictable if you think about it. But as far as we're concerned, our support for the movement is completely organic. We aren't taking orders from some shadowy power center or following a script handed down by some political machine; we’re just doing our own thing here, naturally.

It’s funny, looking back at how much nonsense and outright deception they used to spread about us. They were always pushing this narrative that we were just puppets being funded by some shadowy elite, sent in specifically to dismantle traditional values here in America. It was all such a massive setup, honestly. I mean, if that were actually true, wouldn't we basically have billions of dollars sitting there just waiting to be spent? We could just rebuild everything from scratch and rule forever without ever having to touch the city budget or deal with any of those annoying little problems that keep popping up. But no, that wasn't the case. Instead, they rely entirely on the municipal budget and those various European Union funds.

So now we’ve got these self-proclaimed champions of the children appearing out of nowhere—you know, the ones who claim to be all about protecting kids and ensuring every little face is beaming with joy while they frolic through freshly mowed lawns looking for butterflies or whatever, all while parents watch on, supposedly moved to tears by how fast they’re growing up. It’s funny, really, because suddenly they didn't seem to care one bit about the terrible food being served in our schools and daycare centers, or the crumbling infrastructure, or those depressing schoolyards and playgrounds. They weren't exactly jumping to fix the lack of soap and paper towels, the dilapidated bathrooms, the cracked floor tiles, the busted parquet, the ancient desks and chairs, or the total state of the gymnasiums... but, oh, look at that, now they’ve all developed this sudden, overwhelming maternal instinct for the youth. 😁 People haven't exactly suffered from collective amnesia since 2022, you know. 😁

Personally, I think Mayor Eric Adams is actually a breath of fresh air in this political mess, especially when you consider him and his team. 😉
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
411 messages
joined Jan 2016
#984 ·
Roger James2 said:The conflict of interest commission just weighed in on that whole Tesla situation today:

“Based on all the evidence and paperwork gathered for this case, the commission has advised the individual that this compensation—set at such a flat, lump-sum rate—is in direct violation of the municipal conglomerate’s company vehicle usage policy. Furthermore, using private vehicles for official business effectively counts as receiving extra pay for public duties, which is strictly prohibited under Article 7 d) of the ZSSI”

So, where does that leave us? 🤣☕🍿

I guess we'll just end up paying more for his company car.

briskviper362 said:Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.

Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
And I'm actually pretty happy about that.
Bryan Edwards83 Bryan Edwards83 Member
28 messages
joined May 2024
#985 ·
A garbage truck rolled by my place around 2 AM last night too, though I guess I didn't really check what they were picking up.
Emily Smith6 Emily Smith6 Active Member
228 messages
joined Feb 2023
#986 ·
The ruling explanation is finally out: New York City had the right to revoke parental guardianship, but they definitely tripped up on one major detail
Bryan Edwards83 Bryan Edwards83 Member
28 messages
joined May 2024
#987 ·
Emily Smith6 said:The ruling explanation is finally out: New York City had the right to revoke parental guardianship, but they definitely tripped up on one major detail

Quincy:
...while drafting the decision, they made a mistake that actually keeps moms and dads from getting hired, even after the rule itself was tossed out.
So, I guess one of their main points was that the policy was discriminatory because it stopped parents from working, but then they accidentally left in a clause that still blocks them from employment... 🤦Maybe it was just a huge oversight?
Adam Diaz67 Adam Diaz67 Active Member
98 messages
joined May 2024
#988 ·
hollowmason64 said:I guess we'll just end up paying more for his company car.

Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.

Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
And I'm actually pretty happy about that.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
And I'm actually pretty happy about that.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
And I'm actually pretty happy about that.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
And I'm actually pretty happy about that.
And I'm actually pretty happy about that.
Maybe he'll just take that Insignia he thinks he's too good for—the one he still uses every now and then. I guess that would just count as being paid in kind, similar to everyone else who has access to a company vehicle 24/7, and that's that. I mean, obviously, nobody is actually going to demand he pay back any money he wasn't supposed to have and just go back to how things were before.
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
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#989 ·
It’s a grim picture, one that feels as bleak as it possibly could get 😢
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#990 ·
briskviper362 said:Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.

Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?

It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
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Adam Diaz67 said:Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.

Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?

It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?

It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?

It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?

It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?

It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?

It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?

It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.

Adam Diaz67 said:Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.

Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?

It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?

It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2

Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.

That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.

In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.

The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?

It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?

It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.

I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?

It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?

It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?

It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.

It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
dustytiger8 dustytiger8 Member
42 messages
joined Jun 2024
#992 ·
Let’s cut to the chase...

Are you seriously suggesting that the corporate management division is micromanaging the ground floor? That they're calling the shots directly with the people actually doing the manual labor?
Alexander Thompson Alexander Thompson Active Member
185 messages
joined Apr 2018
#993 ·
I mean, how little Peter actually thinks businesses operate...
briskviper362 briskviper362 Member
20 messages
joined May 2024
#994 ·
dustytiger8 said:Let’s cut to the chase...

Are you seriously suggesting that the corporate management division is micromanaging the ground floor? That they're calling the shots directly with the people actually doing the manual labor?

In certain administrative pockets, yeah, they are.

And honestly, they have no problem meddling in day-to-day operations without even bothering to consult the relevant corporate management division.
Adam Diaz67 Adam Diaz67 Active Member
98 messages
joined May 2024
#995 ·
dustytiger8 said:Let’s cut to the chase...

Are you seriously suggesting that the corporate management division is micromanaging the ground floor? That they're calling the shots directly with the people actually doing the manual labor?

And there’s probably lower-level managers too. I mean, most of these massive public entities have a pyramid structure with all sorts of different boss levels.

I guess if things keep running okay without those directors, then it's pretty obvious the company could function without them. Maybe they should just scrap the public job postings, cut those positions, and save some cash. 😁

It seems weird that the top brass doesn't have the authority to just promote a lower-level manager into a director role themselves. Either they can, but there's some rule stopping them so they don't accidentally promote someone who was just a favorite under the old administration. Or, if they really are working directly with the junior managers, they should at least have a clear view of who is actually performing well.

This is honestly just a total mess. 😵
briskviper362 briskviper362 Member
20 messages
joined May 2024
#996 ·
Believe it or not, there aren't even any mid-level managers in certain departments—I know of a few specific segments where they just skip right over the hierarchy and drop tasks directly onto individual employees. And I’m not talking about the blue-collar operations, like sanitation crews or fleet maintenance, but rather the departments sitting within the core corporate functions.

The corporate management division doesn't even have the authority to promote anyone because the order came straight from the top: no internal promotions allowed. Period.

Take this, for instance—after five months of testing and interviewing, they finally reached the conclusion that absolutely nobody out of dozens of candidates was actually qualified:

June 3, 2022. All public job openings for functional group leads and department heads within the Corporate Services division of Chicagočki holding are hereby canceled. These positions were originally posted on the Chicagočki holding website on January 13, 2022, and pertained to the selection of:

Functional Group Manager within the corporate management division
Head of the Security Department
Head of the Real Estate Management Department
Head of the Strategy, Development, and Compliance Department
Head of the internal audit department
driftingcrane18 driftingcrane18 Member
25 messages
joined May 2024
#997 ·
briskviper362 said:Believe it or not, there aren't even any mid-level managers in certain departments—I know of a few specific segments where they just skip right over the hierarchy and drop tasks directly onto individual employees. And I’m not talking about the blue-collar operations, like sanitation crews or fleet maintenance, but rather the departments sitting within the core corporate functions.

The corporate management division doesn't even have the authority to promote anyone because the order came straight from the top: no internal promotions allowed. Period.

Take this, for instance—after five months of testing and interviewing, they finally reached the conclusion that absolutely nobody out of dozens of candidates was actually qualified:

June 3, 2022. All public job openings for functional group leads and department heads within the Corporate Services division of Chicagočki holding are hereby canceled. These positions were originally posted on the Chicagočki holding website on January 13, 2022, and pertained to the selection of:

Functional Group Manager within the corporate management division
Head of the Security Department
Head of the Real Estate Management Department
Head of the Strategy, Development, and Compliance Department
Head of the internal audit department

briskviper362 said:Believe it or not, there aren't even any mid-level managers in certain departments—I know of a few specific segments where they just skip right over the hierarchy and drop tasks directly onto individual employees. And I’m not talking about the blue-collar operations, like sanitation crews or fleet maintenance, but rather the departments sitting within the core corporate functions.

The corporate management division doesn't even have the authority to promote anyone because the order came straight from the top: no internal promotions allowed. Period.

Take this, for instance—after five months of testing and interviewing, they finally reached the conclusion that absolutely nobody out of dozens of candidates was actually qualified:

June 3, 2022. All public job openings for functional group leads and department heads within the Corporate Services division of Chicagočki holding are hereby canceled. These positions were originally posted on the Chicagočki holding website on January 13, 2022, and pertained to the selection of:

Functional Group Manager within the corporate management division
Head of the Security Department
Head of the Real Estate Management Department
Head of the Strategy, Development, and Compliance Department
Head of the internal audit department

Companies running at a loss usually cut out middle management entirely. They just keep the top leaders. Extra layers of "management" are just dead weight that headquarters should be cutting first to save costs.

It's unrealistic to expect promotions when it's obvious you have way too many redundant positions, like these strategy and compliance roles. 🤦

I won't keep repeating myself about how pathetic these complaints about unfairness are, whether they come from insiders or outsiders.

The legal department is a perfect example. It’s legendary how much they missed—whether through sloppy bookkeeping or intentional oversights to help some shady guy secure a kickback.
Benjamin James6 Benjamin James6 Member
11 messages
joined Jun 2024
#998 ·
Yesterday, Tom settled into his spot by the fireplace right next to Barish, much like how Bandic used to position himself back in the day.
Meanwhile, Mamich is claiming his daughter is out there campaigning hard for the Greens, which honestly sounds like the start of a rather charming little friendship. Who knows, maybe we'll see New York City getting some discounted solar panels from those big energy firms soon...

It actually looks like he’s genuinely having a good time, too. He doesn't have that forced vibe you'd get from someone like Josipovic at one of those late-night galas where you can tell they're counting the minutes until they can leave. You wouldn't expect it, but it turns out the environmentalists actually have a soft spot for soccer. 🙂
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
402 messages
joined Jul 2016
#999 ·
God, give me strength 😢
Samuel Lopez9 Samuel Lopez9 Active Member
77 messages
joined Mar 2023
#1000 ·
Benjamin James6 said:Yesterday, Tom settled into his spot by the fireplace right next to Barish, much like how Bandic used to position himself back in the day.
Meanwhile, Mamich is claiming his daughter is out there campaigning hard for the Greens, which honestly sounds like the start of a rather charming little friendship. Who knows, maybe we'll see New York City getting some discounted solar panels from those big energy firms soon...

It actually looks like he’s genuinely having a good time, too. He doesn't have that forced vibe you'd get from someone like Josipovic at one of those late-night galas where you can tell they're counting the minutes until they can leave. You wouldn't expect it, but it turns out the environmentalists actually have a soft spot for soccer. 🙂

I mean, they play on green grass, right?

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