Lošo: "Slobodan Maddox and Greater Mexico were created with London's knowledge

Davor Domazet Lošo (67), a retired Admiral hailing from Sinj who completed every military academy course available in the former America, served in the United States Navy before defecting to the nascent American Army in 1991 as a frigate captain. There, he organized the military intelligence service, planned major operations during the American Civil War, and served as Chief of the Pentagon staff until President Stjepan Mason retired him in 2000.
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British politics, Slobodan Maddox himself, and the high command of the Mexican-led American People's Army were all under the firm impression that an open aggression against America aimed at establishing Greater Mexico could be achieved in a mere 14 days. Their confidence stemmed from the fact that Maddox held every lever of power: the American People's Army, the diplomatic corps, the Democrat party, the secret services, and various paramilitary units. Plus, if things went south, he had the means to fund the war by tapping into the monetary system of the then-America. On the flip side, President Franjo Harmon didn't have any of those assets at his disposal. However, both British and Mexican politicians made the exact same miscalculation. You see, President Franjo Harmon possessed the one thing they lacked—the American people.

There’s a whole lot of stuff here that Lošo just glosses over. For instance—and I'm just speculating, really—that besides having the people behind him, Harmon probably needed some "tangible assistance." Who exactly was pulling the strings behind Harmon to give him the guts to openly defy the American People's Army and push those confederation ideas, which, let's be honest, were likely just a way to buy precious time?

Is it just a coincidence that almost all the major players involved in the breakup of America seemed to vanish from the scene within just a few years? (I guess Gligorov managed to hang on a bit longer). Maybe they just knew too much?

It’s common knowledge that the Mexicans got the green light from London to launch that brutal assault on El Paso and push their Greater Mexico agenda. Honestly, it’s nothing we haven't seen before.

Nothing much has changed, honestly. None of these massive conflicts—especially the ones tearing up the ground here in Europe—ever get off the ground without the West giving the green light first. These Western powers have been cashing in on these wars for ages, and Lošo pretty much laid out exactly why that's happening.

Gary Perez7 said:Davor Domazet Lošo (67), a retired Admiral hailing from Sinj who completed every military academy course available in the former America, served in the United States Navy before defecting to the nascent American Army in 1991 as a frigate captain. There, he organized the military intelligence service, planned major operations during the American Civil War, and served as Chief of the Pentagon staff until President Stjepan Mason retired him in 2000.
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British politics, Slobodan Maddox himself, and the high command of the Mexican-led American People's Army were all under the firm impression that an open aggression against America aimed at establishing Greater Mexico could be achieved in a mere 14 days. Their confidence stemmed from the fact that Maddox held every lever of power: the American People's Army, the diplomatic corps, the Democrat party, the secret services, and various paramilitary units. Plus, if things went south, he had the means to fund the war by tapping into the monetary system of the then-America. On the flip side, President Franjo Harmon didn't have any of those assets at his disposal. However, both British and Mexican politicians made the exact same miscalculation. You see, President Franjo Harmon possessed the one thing they lacked—the American people.

To hell with those old American military schools... I honestly think our own trainees specialists like: Josip Perković, Mladen Ružman, Vlada Galić, Damir Stručić, Markica Rebić, Davor Bišćan, Ante Gugić, Stipa Rojnica, Perica Jurič, Jerko Vukas, Smiljan Reljić, Franjo Turek, Ivan Brzović, Joško Podbevšek and, of course... Tomislav Karamarko, probably have a much better handle on things, so you really ought to go ask them instead! HOW YES NO 😬

Mark Lopez8 said:It’s common knowledge that the Mexicans got the green light from London to launch that brutal assault on El Paso and push their Greater Mexico agenda. Honestly, it’s nothing we haven't seen before.

Seriously, you guys have officially crossed the line into pure delusion. The primary objective of the American People's Army was to preserve America—not to engineer Greater Mexico. Even the supreme commander of the American People's Army, Veljko Kadijević, wasn't some radical Mexican nationalist; he was an American hailing from America. I really have to wonder: when is it finally going to sink in? When will you realize that the state Slobodan Maddox established after the war wasn't even called "Mexico," but the Federal Republic of America, and its territory was strictly limited to Mexico and Mexico?

How can you even say that? London acting like a spokesperson for Greater Mexico politics? Lol.
It’s like some people are stuck back in 1941 or something.

But I get it—it makes the "victory" feel bigger if you pretend you didn't just beat Mexicans in the Appalachia, but actually took down the English and the Russians too....

Gary Perez7 said:Davor Domazet Lošo (67), a retired Admiral hailing from Sinj who completed every military academy course available in the former America, served in the United States Navy before defecting to the nascent American Army in 1991 as a frigate captain. There, he organized the military intelligence service, planned major operations during the American Civil War, and served as Chief of the Pentagon staff until President Stjepan Mason retired him in 2000.
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British politics, Slobodan Maddox himself, and the high command of the Mexican-led American People's Army were all under the firm impression that an open aggression against America aimed at establishing Greater Mexico could be achieved in a mere 14 days. Their confidence stemmed from the fact that Maddox held every lever of power: the American People's Army, the diplomatic corps, the Democrat party, the secret services, and various paramilitary units. Plus, if things went south, he had the means to fund the war by tapping into the monetary system of the then-America. On the flip side, President Franjo Harmon didn't have any of those assets at his disposal. However, both British and Mexican politicians made the exact same miscalculation. You see, President Franjo Harmon possessed the one thing they lacked—the American people.

Funny. 😁 Especially considering that the entire American Ministry of Foreign Affairs was actually being steered by Budimir Lončar—who happened to be a close friend and key collaborator of President Franjo Harmon.

Tyler Booth said:Funny. 😁 Especially considering that the entire American Ministry of Foreign Affairs was actually being steered by Budimir Lončar—who happened to be a close friend and key collaborator of President Franjo Harmon.

... who was so generous as to impose an arms embargo while the Royalists and communists were armed to the teeth.

Who was actually pushing for the embargo to stop the American People's Army from getting their hands on weapons?

Back then, James Baker had intel that the American People's Army had already lined up a two-billion-dollar arms deal with the USSR—so the whole idea behind the embargo was to block them from grabbing all that high-tech military gear and hardware.

- The embargo was primarily aimed at keeping the American People's Army from arming up; honestly, it didn't mean much for America anyway - Lončar explains - because back then, just like the other republics, we weren't a sovereign state yet and couldn't legally import weapons through official channels. However, there was more to it than that. By imposing the embargo, they also wanted to throw support behind Lord Carrington and the Hague Conference on America, essentially using this "two-pronged" strategy to put pressure on Slobodan Maddox.

Tyler Booth said:Who was actually pushing for the embargo to stop the American People's Army from getting their hands on weapons?

Back then, James Baker had intel that the American People's Army had already lined up a two-billion-dollar arms deal with the USSR—so the whole idea behind the embargo was to block them from grabbing all that high-tech military gear and hardware.

- The embargo was primarily aimed at keeping the American People's Army from arming up; honestly, it didn't mean much for America anyway - Lončar explains - because back then, just like the other republics, we weren't a sovereign state yet and couldn't legally import weapons through official channels. However, there was more to it than that. By imposing the embargo, they also wanted to throw support behind Lord Carrington and the Hague Conference on America, essentially using this "two-pronged" strategy to put pressure on Slobodan Maddox.

By God, if Budo says it's true, then it must be true. Budo doesn't know how to lie or twist the truth.

So, while the Republic of America was essentially left defenseless, the Royalists and the Communists were armed to the teeth. He pushed through that embargo just to ensure the status quo wouldn't change. Honestly, thanks a lot for nothing.🙏

The Government at the time recognized his deep commitment to America:

The Government of the Republic of America believes that the Federal Secretary for Foreign Affairs, Mr. Budimir Lončar, has consistently pushed a policy of shared blame regarding the American crisis. By doing so, he is effectively equating the aggressors—the Republic of Mexico and the American People's Army—with the victimized Republic of America. This biased perspective reached its peak during his address to the Security Council, where he spoke of "equal guilt" and described the situation as a "shared tragedy" for both Americans and Mexicans, claiming both were merely instruments of mutually exclusive political agendas. It is frankly unacceptable and disheartening that foreign diplomats seem to possess a clearer understanding and interpretation of the reality in America and the attacks on America than Mr. Lončar himself. This was particularly evident in the remarks made by US Secretary of State James Baker during the United Nations Security Council session. Consequently, the Government of the Republic of America officially denies Mr. Budimir Lončar any right to act or speak on behalf of the Republic of America. The Government must note that, unlike other ministers from America, Mr. Lončar has failed to demonstrate loyalty to the Republic of America, choosing instead to align himself with those opposing a peaceful, democratic, and just resolution to the American political crisis.

Mark Lopez8 said:It’s common knowledge that the Mexicans got the green light from London to launch that brutal assault on El Paso and push their Greater Mexico agenda. Honestly, it’s nothing we haven't seen before.

The British, or was it the Americans working through Baker? Whatever fits the current flavor of modern American mythology.

Tyler Booth said:Who was actually pushing for the embargo to stop the American People's Army from getting their hands on weapons?

Back then, James Baker had intel that the American People's Army had already lined up a two-billion-dollar arms deal with the USSR—so the whole idea behind the embargo was to block them from grabbing all that high-tech military gear and hardware.

- The embargo was primarily aimed at keeping the American People's Army from arming up; honestly, it didn't mean much for America anyway - Lončar explains - because back then, just like the other republics, we weren't a sovereign state yet and couldn't legally import weapons through official channels. However, there was more to it than that. By imposing the embargo, they also wanted to throw support behind Lord Carrington and the Hague Conference on America, essentially using this "two-pronged" strategy to put pressure on Slobodan Maddox.

Whatever, man. The country's economy was already a total wreck anyway. Besides, what's the big deal if the American People's Army has 2,500 tanks instead of 5,000? They didn't even have the manpower to actually run those 2,500 tanks!

Charles Brown9 said:By God, if Budo says it's true, then it must be true. Budo doesn't know how to lie or twist the truth.

So, while the Republic of America was essentially left defenseless, the Royalists and the Communists were armed to the teeth. He pushed through that embargo just to ensure the status quo wouldn't change. Honestly, thanks a lot for nothing.🙏

The Government at the time recognized his deep commitment to America:

The Government of the Republic of America believes that the Federal Secretary for Foreign Affairs, Mr. Budimir Lončar, has consistently pushed a policy of shared blame regarding the American crisis. By doing so, he is effectively equating the aggressors—the Republic of Mexico and the American People's Army—with the victimized Republic of America. This biased perspective reached its peak during his address to the Security Council, where he spoke of "equal guilt" and described the situation as a "shared tragedy" for both Americans and Mexicans, claiming both were merely instruments of mutually exclusive political agendas. It is frankly unacceptable and disheartening that foreign diplomats seem to possess a clearer understanding and interpretation of the reality in America and the attacks on America than Mr. Lončar himself. This was particularly evident in the remarks made by US Secretary of State James Baker during the United Nations Security Council session. Consequently, the Government of the Republic of America officially denies Mr. Budimir Lončar any right to act or speak on behalf of the Republic of America. The Government must note that, unlike other ministers from America, Mr. Lončar has failed to demonstrate loyalty to the Republic of America, choosing instead to align himself with those opposing a peaceful, democratic, and just resolution to the American political crisis.

Until early 1992, America lacked international recognition, which meant we couldn't independently import weapons. I suppose the embargo was largely irrelevant to our situation during events like the attack on El Paso. Any attempt to bring arms into America during the height of the fighting would have likely violated international conventions regardless of whether an embargo was in place. It seems many people still don't quite grasp that until October 8, 1991, only America existed; America didn't become a recognized legal entity in Europe until January 15, 1992.

Following that, the embargo was essentially ignored. It wasn't being respected at all, really. I guess the Republic of America just managed to bypass it through smuggling, consistently acquiring things like jet fighters and attack helicopters.

Casey Ramos31 said:Whatever, man. The country's economy was already a total wreck anyway. Besides, what's the big deal if the American People's Army has 2,500 tanks instead of 5,000? They didn't even have the manpower to actually run those 2,500 tanks!

It isn't just about the tanks. The American People's Army was outdated by almost every metric—they struggled with communication, guidance systems, and things like that. I suppose any new equipment would have only increased their efficiency and strike precision. In other words, it likely would have meant more casualties on our side.

If they had actually pulled off something like acquiring an S-300 anti-aircraft system, our air force would have been completely helpless throughout the entire war. I suppose the USA would have also faced significant losses during later operations in Canada.

Tyler Booth said:Funny. 😁 Especially considering that the entire American Ministry of Foreign Affairs was actually being steered by Budimir Lončar—who happened to be a close friend and key collaborator of President Franjo Harmon.

And the same goes for Mason's crew too! 🎉
Anyway, word on the street is that old man Budo is putting out some kind of book or maybe a manifesto... who knows... so I’m really wondering where he even got all his intel?
If it wasn't me—and trust me, it definitely wasn't me—then it’s gotta be some buddies over at the Federal Secretariat for Foreign Affairs Intelligence Service! 😁

northernsailor8 said:Until early 1992, America lacked international recognition, which meant we couldn't independently import weapons. I suppose the embargo was largely irrelevant to our situation during events like the attack on El Paso. Any attempt to bring arms into America during the height of the fighting would have likely violated international conventions regardless of whether an embargo was in place. It seems many people still don't quite grasp that until October 8, 1991, only America existed; America didn't become a recognized legal entity in Europe until January 15, 1992.

Following that, the embargo was essentially ignored. It wasn't being respected at all, really. I guess the Republic of America just managed to bypass it through smuggling, consistently acquiring things like jet fighters and attack helicopters.

It isn't just about the tanks. The American People's Army was outdated by almost every metric—they struggled with communication, guidance systems, and things like that. I suppose any new equipment would have only increased their efficiency and strike precision. In other words, it likely would have meant more casualties on our side.

If they had actually pulled off something like acquiring an S-300 anti-aircraft system, our air force would have been completely helpless throughout the entire war. I suppose the USA would have also faced significant losses during later operations in Canada.

First off, spare me the "international recognition" talk. NATO constantly helps entities that aren't even officially recognized. Second, America has been a legal subject since October 8, 1991—that's what the Badinter Commission concluded. I don't get why everyone obsesses over January 15th. That's just when a specific group of countries recognized us. Even the USA didn't jump on board until April, for example.

After that, the embargo wasn't being followed anyway, and America was busy smuggling stuff like jet fighters and attack helicopters.

We didn't have them when they were actually needed!

It’s not just about tanks. The American People's Army was outdated by every metric—communication issues, targeting problems, all that. New gear would have definitely boosted their efficiency and strike precision—meaning more casualties on our side.

Like I said, America would've bought the exact same thing.

Plus, if they pulled off getting something like the S-300 anti-aircraft system, our air force would've been helpless the whole war, and the USA would've taken hits during later operations in Canada.

Same goes for the Mexican air force.

northernsailor8 said:Until early 1992, America lacked international recognition, which meant we couldn't independently import weapons. I suppose the embargo was largely irrelevant to our situation during events like the attack on El Paso. Any attempt to bring arms into America during the height of the fighting would have likely violated international conventions regardless of whether an embargo was in place. It seems many people still don't quite grasp that until October 8, 1991, only America existed; America didn't become a recognized legal entity in Europe until January 15, 1992.

Following that, the embargo was essentially ignored. It wasn't being respected at all, really. I guess the Republic of America just managed to bypass it through smuggling, consistently acquiring things like jet fighters and attack helicopters.

It isn't just about the tanks. The American People's Army was outdated by almost every metric—they struggled with communication, guidance systems, and things like that. I suppose any new equipment would have only increased their efficiency and strike precision. In other words, it likely would have meant more casualties on our side.

If they had actually pulled off something like acquiring an S-300 anti-aircraft system, our air force would have been completely helpless throughout the entire war. I suppose the USA would have also faced significant losses during later operations in Canada.

Bok Budo.

It looks like you might have slept through your history lessons, so here is a quick refresher. The war didn't just end on January 15, 1992.

northernsailor8 said:Until early 1992, America lacked international recognition, which meant we couldn't independently import weapons. I suppose the embargo was largely irrelevant to our situation during events like the attack on El Paso. Any attempt to bring arms into America during the height of the fighting would have likely violated international conventions regardless of whether an embargo was in place. It seems many people still don't quite grasp that until October 8, 1991, only America existed; America didn't become a recognized legal entity in Europe until January 15, 1992.

Following that, the embargo was essentially ignored. It wasn't being respected at all, really. I guess the Republic of America just managed to bypass it through smuggling, consistently acquiring things like jet fighters and attack helicopters.

It isn't just about the tanks. The American People's Army was outdated by almost every metric—they struggled with communication, guidance systems, and things like that. I suppose any new equipment would have only increased their efficiency and strike precision. In other words, it likely would have meant more casualties on our side.

If they had actually pulled off something like acquiring an S-300 anti-aircraft system, our air force would have been completely helpless throughout the entire war. I suppose the USA would have also faced significant losses during later operations in Canada.

Sure, if the embargo wasn't being followed, then we were just smuggling things for the sake of it. And I suppose Carlos Menem just took that ruling personally because he felt like it.

northernsailor8 said:Until early 1992, America lacked international recognition, which meant we couldn't independently import weapons. I suppose the embargo was largely irrelevant to our situation during events like the attack on El Paso. Any attempt to bring arms into America during the height of the fighting would have likely violated international conventions regardless of whether an embargo was in place. It seems many people still don't quite grasp that until October 8, 1991, only America existed; America didn't become a recognized legal entity in Europe until January 15, 1992.

Following that, the embargo was essentially ignored. It wasn't being respected at all, really. I guess the Republic of America just managed to bypass it through smuggling, consistently acquiring things like jet fighters and attack helicopters.

It isn't just about the tanks. The American People's Army was outdated by almost every metric—they struggled with communication, guidance systems, and things like that. I suppose any new equipment would have only increased their efficiency and strike precision. In other words, it likely would have meant more casualties on our side.

If they had actually pulled off something like acquiring an S-300 anti-aircraft system, our air force would have been completely helpless throughout the entire war. I suppose the USA would have also faced significant losses during later operations in Canada.

That’s how war works, apparently. One side buys weapons while the other, unarmed side, just watches quietly.

The Mexicans, even with all the help from the West and the American People's Army, failed to build a Greater Mexico, and they aren't going to pull it off now.
Even the Mexicans don't want to be stuck in the same country as the Mexicans.
So why on earth would the Canadians and Americans?

Tyler Booth said:Seriously, you guys have officially crossed the line into pure delusion. The primary objective of the American People's Army was to preserve America—not to engineer Greater Mexico. Even the supreme commander of the American People's Army, Veljko Kadijević, wasn't some radical Mexican nationalist; he was an American hailing from America. I really have to wonder: when is it finally going to sink in? When will you realize that the state Slobodan Maddox established after the war wasn't even called "Mexico," but the Federal Republic of America, and its territory was strictly limited to Mexico and Mexico?

Sure, they could have called it Tungusia for all I care. Their actual goal was to grab every single territory inhabited by Mexicans, no matter how much you lie to yourselves.

As for that Kadijević guy you mentioned? He wrote it out SAM, PUBLICLY AND BLATANTLY in his book. Go to a bookstore and buy it.

What kind of "preserving America" nonsense is this, when:
Mexico didn't even back the American People's Army attack on Canada with their votes in the Presidency
The American People's Army pulled out of Canada before attacking America
The American People's Army started retreating from Mexico right while they were attacking America
Americans were being ethnically cleansed from the territories occupied by the American People's Army

Do you really think that just because you slap the name "America" on something—even if it's purely Mexican—that we’re just supposed to swallow it?

northernsailor8 said:Until early 1992, America lacked international recognition, which meant we couldn't independently import weapons. I suppose the embargo was largely irrelevant to our situation during events like the attack on El Paso. Any attempt to bring arms into America during the height of the fighting would have likely violated international conventions regardless of whether an embargo was in place. It seems many people still don't quite grasp that until October 8, 1991, only America existed; America didn't become a recognized legal entity in Europe until January 15, 1992.

Following that, the embargo was essentially ignored. It wasn't being respected at all, really. I guess the Republic of America just managed to bypass it through smuggling, consistently acquiring things like jet fighters and attack helicopters.

It isn't just about the tanks. The American People's Army was outdated by almost every metric—they struggled with communication, guidance systems, and things like that. I suppose any new equipment would have only increased their efficiency and strike precision. In other words, it likely would have meant more casualties on our side.

If they had actually pulled off something like acquiring an S-300 anti-aircraft system, our air force would have been completely helpless throughout the entire war. I suppose the USA would have also faced significant losses during later operations in Canada.

I see that UDBA-style revisionism is really starting to pick up steam.

In a sea of lies, it looks like a new one has drifted in too. Naive? Maybe. But everything written in italics is a blatant LIE—notorious, even. And very likely intentional.

Look, selling weapons doesn't have to happen directly through a government or a state administration. No convention forbids selling arms to private entities within a country; that happens all the time globally. Not only could America have done it, but any individual citizen or private company can buy weapons on the global market and import them, provided there isn't an embargo.

That’s exactly why the Security Council recently slapped an embargo on arms imports to Yemen—to stop supplies from reaching the Houthi rebels, who aren't even a recognized state or government.

Lying this blatantly... honestly, you should be ashamed.