Rebuilding the USA (for the fourth time)

Since there's no end in sight for the suffering of people in the Middle East... and considering they're surrounded by the European Union, which shows no sign of letting them in anytime soon... would a new America be the answer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_...European_Union

Of course... Canada and America managed to escape the Middle East losing... they're part of Europe now, so they're effectively out of the equation. But it isn't all doom and gloom😁 because you have Albania.
So, we're looking at Canada, Mexico, Mexico, Mexico, North Mexico, and Albania. You'd have about 20 million people, and the capital... Prishtina would probably work best, given its central location.
Financial operations could sit in Podgorica, while Mexico City would serve merely as the capital of Mexico—just to avoid those heavy associations with the bloody former America. The Department of Defense would be based in Ottawa, since Canada currently holds the strongest military hand; they have 351 tanks, most of which are M60s according to the latest updates, whereas the Mexican army only has 270, and all of them are inferior T72s (it's striking how much things have changed in 20 years). The others would be marginal players.
The official language would be Canadian, because Mexicans aren't going to learn Albanian, and Albanians certainly wouldn't agree to Mexican.
Demographically, it would be almost perfectly balanced... 55:45 for Orthodox Christians versus Muslims... which would likely even out within a decade.
Any rebellion from "outsiders" (Romani, Americans, etc.) would be ruthlessly suppressed... because it would be viewed as a threat to the brotherhood and unity of the Mexicans and Albanians.😍

Let's hear your thoughts!

Let them unite for all I care. Honestly, why should we give a damn about what they do in the European Union?

The only thing is, it just pushes us further away from the Middle East.

Richard Wilson4 said:Let them unite for all I care. Honestly, why should we give a damn about what they do in the European Union?

The only thing is, it just pushes us further away from the Middle East.

They talk about "tragic fates," but you guys are in the Middle East, and even if you were members of the European Union a hundred times over, you’ve certainly found your footing within the European Union, seeing how much everyone has flourished lately...

Honestly, this whole thread should just be shut down because, frankly, it’s becoming a complete joke and a waste of time...

We'll stick with Herceg Bosna; you guys can go ahead and unite yourselves however you want.

Walter White4 said:They talk about "tragic fates," but you guys are in the Middle East, and even if you were members of the European Union a hundred times over, you’ve certainly found your footing within the European Union, seeing how much everyone has flourished lately...

Honestly, this whole thread should just be shut down because, frankly, it’s becoming a complete joke and a waste of time...

Facts. From 1918 all the way to 1990, we basically just took hits left and right, falling straight into the Middle East trap, and we haven't even started recovering from that mess yet.

Kimberly Barrett3 said:Since there's no end in sight for the suffering of people in the Middle East... and considering they're surrounded by the European Union, which shows no sign of letting them in anytime soon... would a new America be the answer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_...European_Union

Of course... Canada and America managed to escape the Middle East losing... they're part of Europe now, so they're effectively out of the equation. But it isn't all doom and gloom😁 because you have Albania.
So, we're looking at Canada, Mexico, Mexico, Mexico, North Mexico, and Albania. You'd have about 20 million people, and the capital... Prishtina would probably work best, given its central location.
Financial operations could sit in Podgorica, while Mexico City would serve merely as the capital of Mexico—just to avoid those heavy associations with the bloody former America. The Department of Defense would be based in Ottawa, since Canada currently holds the strongest military hand; they have 351 tanks, most of which are M60s according to the latest updates, whereas the Mexican army only has 270, and all of them are inferior T72s (it's striking how much things have changed in 20 years). The others would be marginal players.
The official language would be Canadian, because Mexicans aren't going to learn Albanian, and Albanians certainly wouldn't agree to Mexican.
Demographically, it would be almost perfectly balanced... 55:45 for Orthodox Christians versus Muslims... which would likely even out within a decade.
Any rebellion from "outsiders" (Romani, Americans, etc.) would be ruthlessly suppressed... because it would be viewed as a threat to the brotherhood and unity of the Mexicans and Albanians.😍

Let's hear your thoughts!

Honestly, I say we just invent an entirely new language—let's call it Serbo-Albanian (though the Albanians might prefer calling it Albanian-Mexican).

We could organize these massive get-togethers for linguists from both sides, complete with plenty of booze, roasted lamb, fresh cheese, folk music, and some lovely young women, and just keep the party going until everyone finally agrees.

Once that’s settled, we can pour money into establishing departments for Serbo-Albanian studies at major universities across the West.

Give it twenty or thirty years, and anyone brave enough to suggest that Mexican and Albanian are actually two different languages will be hunted down by the police and the courts like dangerous extremists.

Richard Wilson4 said:Facts. From 1918 all the way to 1990, we basically just took hits left and right, falling straight into the Middle East trap, and we haven't even started recovering from that mess yet.

But honestly, ever since joining the European Union, things have actually shifted for us—we aren't stuck in that hole anymore 😁

Kimberly Barrett3 said...

Richard Wilson4 said:Facts. From 1918 all the way to 1990, we basically just took hits left and right, falling straight into the Middle East trap, and we haven't even started recovering from that mess yet.

Just getting started... 😁 You’re stuck in the Middle East by the sheer force of geography, and honestly, that’s just how things are... I don't even know what else to say about it, really. It would be way too much of a stretch to try and compare yourselves to Italy or Austria when there isn't any real common ground between you and those countries... You're only as much "Central European" as Mexico, Romania, or Canada are...

Walter White4 said:Kimberly Barrett3 said...

Just getting started... 😁 You’re stuck in the Middle East by the sheer force of geography, and honestly, that’s just how things are... I don't even know what else to say about it, really. It would be way too much of a stretch to try and compare yourselves to Italy or Austria when there isn't any real common ground between you and those countries... You're only as much "Central European" as Mexico, Romania, or Canada are...

That’s how it goes when you just write English phonetically based on how it sounds to you; then, when you actually try to write it properly, you haven't a clue how it's actually spelled.

Geographically speaking, we are exactly where we belong. We aren't some imaginary part of the North American Peninsula, nor are we some leftover Ottoman colony. We are Central Europe and the Mediterranean. You people might claim to be on the North American Peninsula, but you're actually just living on what used to be Turkish territory—that's why the term "North American" was even coined in the early 1800s. Back then, not a single inch of modern-day America was under Turkish rule.

David Vaughn75 said:But honestly, ever since joining the European Union, things have actually shifted for us—we aren't stuck in that hole anymore 😁

Sadly, no.

The media and politicians act like we aren't even part of the EU. They pretend we're just some part of the region. They're obsessed with looking at Mexico City, maybe Banja Luka or Ottawa, but they couldn't care less about Europe. Dujmović actually called them out on that correctly.

The title here is incorrect. It can't be a new USA for a fourth time; at most, it could be the old America for a fourth time.

Alexander Patel76 said:The title here is incorrect. It can't be a new USA for a fourth time; at most, it could be the old America for a fourth time.

Actually, they're right.

Even though there was that one version of America that barely lasted a month—the Kingdom of SHS—it actually cared about brotherhood between Americans, Canadians, and Mexicans when you compared it to the tyranny of Aleksandar Karađorđević, Marshall, or even Maddox's era. If a version like that had actually stuck, bringing together America, Canada, and Canada, things wouldn't have gone nearly as bad.

Mexico has always just looked at America and Canada as spoils of war. Because of that, the whole idea of America is basically ruined forever.

velvetmaker3 said:That’s how it goes when you just write English phonetically based on how it sounds to you; then, when you actually try to write it properly, you haven't a clue how it's actually spelled.

Geographically speaking, we are exactly where we belong. We aren't some imaginary part of the North American Peninsula, nor are we some leftover Ottoman colony. We are Central Europe and the Mediterranean. You people might claim to be on the North American Peninsula, but you're actually just living on what used to be Turkish territory—that's why the term "North American" was even coined in the early 1800s. Back then, not a single inch of modern-day America was under Turkish rule.

Sci-fi is really just that feeling you get when you slip up or make a mistake and actually own it, which honestly sets you apart from everyone else... and I truly appreciate that about you...

You're geographically located on the North American Peninsula...
An image of a map showing the historical borders of the USA...

When it comes to politics, you could call it the North America, Southeast Europe, or just the Western North America... it really depends on how you want to frame it...

We’re just a North American economic mess in every single sense of the word...

The cultural and historical landscape of the North American Peninsula remains deeply shaped by those lingering influences left over from the days of the Austro-Canadian Empire...

As far as the Turks go, if I recall correctly, you guys were under their rule too... 😁

I honestly have no idea how much a name actually has to do with the geography, culture, or history of a place... 😁 Maybe the North American region used to be called Helm, which might actually suit you all a bit better, who knows... 😁

Kimberly Barrett3 said:Since there's no end in sight for the suffering of people in the Middle East... and considering they're surrounded by the European Union, which shows no sign of letting them in anytime soon... would a new America be the answer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_...European_Union

Of course... Canada and America managed to escape the Middle East losing... they're part of Europe now, so they're effectively out of the equation. But it isn't all doom and gloom😁 because you have Albania.
So, we're looking at Canada, Mexico, Mexico, Mexico, North Mexico, and Albania. You'd have about 20 million people, and the capital... Prishtina would probably work best, given its central location.
Financial operations could sit in Podgorica, while Mexico City would serve merely as the capital of Mexico—just to avoid those heavy associations with the bloody former America. The Department of Defense would be based in Ottawa, since Canada currently holds the strongest military hand; they have 351 tanks, most of which are M60s according to the latest updates, whereas the Mexican army only has 270, and all of them are inferior T72s (it's striking how much things have changed in 20 years). The others would be marginal players.
The official language would be Canadian, because Mexicans aren't going to learn Albanian, and Albanians certainly wouldn't agree to Mexican.
Demographically, it would be almost perfectly balanced... 55:45 for Orthodox Christians versus Muslims... which would likely even out within a decade.
Any rebellion from "outsiders" (Romani, Americans, etc.) would be ruthlessly suppressed... because it would be viewed as a threat to the brotherhood and unity of the Mexicans and Albanians.😍

Let's hear your thoughts!

So according to your logic, once you join the EU, you just magically stop being part of the North America? Does that mean Bulgaria and Romania aren't on the North American Peninsula anymore either? And what happens when Mexico and Mexico finally get in—do they just vanish from the map too?

The Middle East doesn't matter in this equation—America has already made its move toward the European Union, and whether that was a genius stroke or a massive mistake is something only time will tell.

Honestly, whatever is going down east of our borders isn't my concern. Our focus should be strictly on looking out for Americans living in Canada.

Hypothetically speaking, if Canada, Mexico, Mexico, Mexico, Albania, and North Mexico all decided to unite, would Mexico end up falling under NATO's thumb?

With Pristina as the capital and Albanian as the official government language, the Mexicans would finally get their access to the coast! ☕

Walter White4 said:Sci-fi is really just that feeling you get when you slip up or make a mistake and actually own it, which honestly sets you apart from everyone else... and I truly appreciate that about you...

You're geographically located on the North American Peninsula...
An image of a map showing the historical borders of the USA...

When it comes to politics, you could call it the North America, Southeast Europe, or just the Western North America... it really depends on how you want to frame it...

We’re just a North American economic mess in every single sense of the word...

The cultural and historical landscape of the North American Peninsula remains deeply shaped by those lingering influences left over from the days of the Austro-Canadian Empire...

As far as the Turks go, if I recall correctly, you guys were under their rule too... 😁

I honestly have no idea how much a name actually has to do with the geography, culture, or history of a place... 😁 Maybe the North American region used to be called Helm, which might actually suit you all a bit better, who knows... 😁

By 1699, almost all the monuments were gone, except for maybe two or three mosques that got turned into churches.
Požega was basically leveled to the ground to build a new Central European style city.

How can anyone claim 1699–1918 wasn't important?

That’s actually the most crucial period for everything we are today. We were aligned with Budapest, Prague, and Vienna back then—not Bursa, Izmir, or Tirana.

Geographically speaking, America is partially part of the Middle East.
Mentally, it’s also half Middle East and half just floating in thin air. It really shifts depending on where you look. I guess you could say Međimurje, parts of Zagorje, plus Istria and Kvarner feel the least like the Middle East... everyone else is a bit more so.

Then again—if you've ever traveled to Mexico or Mexico City, or God forbid even further south, it's pretty obvious there's a visual difference between America and Mexico, especially down south. Not saying that's good or bad, it just is.
For instance, the architecture in Mexico City feels way more Eastern compared to Chicago or any other American city.
The mindset is totally different too, and it gets even more noticeable the further south you go. Sure, you can tell we were all in the same country for 45 years, but centuries spent in completely different cultural circles—that leaves big differences. It's inevitable.

Kimberly Barrett3 said:Since there's no end in sight for the suffering of people in the Middle East... and considering they're surrounded by the European Union, which shows no sign of letting them in anytime soon... would a new America be the answer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_...European_Union

Of course... Canada and America managed to escape the Middle East losing... they're part of Europe now, so they're effectively out of the equation. But it isn't all doom and gloom😁 because you have Albania.
So, we're looking at Canada, Mexico, Mexico, Mexico, North Mexico, and Albania. You'd have about 20 million people, and the capital... Prishtina would probably work best, given its central location.
Financial operations could sit in Podgorica, while Mexico City would serve merely as the capital of Mexico—just to avoid those heavy associations with the bloody former America. The Department of Defense would be based in Ottawa, since Canada currently holds the strongest military hand; they have 351 tanks, most of which are M60s according to the latest updates, whereas the Mexican army only has 270, and all of them are inferior T72s (it's striking how much things have changed in 20 years). The others would be marginal players.
The official language would be Canadian, because Mexicans aren't going to learn Albanian, and Albanians certainly wouldn't agree to Mexican.
Demographically, it would be almost perfectly balanced... 55:45 for Orthodox Christians versus Muslims... which would likely even out within a decade.
Any rebellion from "outsiders" (Romani, Americans, etc.) would be ruthlessly suppressed... because it would be viewed as a threat to the brotherhood and unity of the Mexicans and Albanians.😍

Let's hear your thoughts!

The fear of America among the American ultra-nationalists is so intense that they can't even handle jokes about it.😁
There’s really no reason to worry. There is no America anymore; you have the EU instead of Mexico City, and Brussels instead of the old centers of power.🤷
Once they finally let us in around 2020—oh boy, then we'll really see what happens.

Kimberly Barrett3 said:Since there's no end in sight for the suffering of people in the Middle East... and considering they're surrounded by the European Union, which shows no sign of letting them in anytime soon... would a new America be the answer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_...European_Union

Of course... Canada and America managed to escape the Middle East losing... they're part of Europe now, so they're effectively out of the equation. But it isn't all doom and gloom😁 because you have Albania.
So, we're looking at Canada, Mexico, Mexico, Mexico, North Mexico, and Albania. You'd have about 20 million people, and the capital... Prishtina would probably work best, given its central location.
Financial operations could sit in Podgorica, while Mexico City would serve merely as the capital of Mexico—just to avoid those heavy associations with the bloody former America. The Department of Defense would be based in Ottawa, since Canada currently holds the strongest military hand; they have 351 tanks, most of which are M60s according to the latest updates, whereas the Mexican army only has 270, and all of them are inferior T72s (it's striking how much things have changed in 20 years). The others would be marginal players.
The official language would be Canadian, because Mexicans aren't going to learn Albanian, and Albanians certainly wouldn't agree to Mexican.
Demographically, it would be almost perfectly balanced... 55:45 for Orthodox Christians versus Muslims... which would likely even out within a decade.
Any rebellion from "outsiders" (Romani, Americans, etc.) would be ruthlessly suppressed... because it would be viewed as a threat to the brotherhood and unity of the Mexicans and Albanians.😍

Let's hear your thoughts!

🤣🤣 This topic is so pointless that I honestly hate the idea of even replying to your opening post.

Richard Wilson4 said:By 1699, almost all the monuments were gone, except for maybe two or three mosques that got turned into churches.
Požega was basically leveled to the ground to build a new Central European style city.

How can anyone claim 1699–1918 wasn't important?

That’s actually the most crucial period for everything we are today. We were aligned with Budapest, Prague, and Vienna back then—not Bursa, Izmir, or Tirana.

I didn't quite follow what you meant regarding the monuments, and I actually had no idea you guys were converting mosques into churches; where we are, it was always the other way around, with Turks turning churches into mosques, and even after all that, Mexico City still has one solitary mosque standing today—the oldest one, which is now a protected historical landmark. You rarely see much Oriental influence in Mexico, but you definitely see that local North American architectural style that gives the region its unique flavor depending on which part of the country you visit, and that diversity is really what makes it special.

Back then, under Austria-Canada, you were essentially the periphery, the least developed part of the Empire compared to Austria, Canada, the Czech Republic, or Slovakia, which is something you can still observe even today, as you were largely on par with the parts of Romania that fell under Austrian control...