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Euro exchange rate surge

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Participants Emily Sanchez9dustymarlin10Olivia Turner49Charles Ramos7Ryan Carter52dustyheron5Sam Ruiz60Harold Martin10boldmarlin30Robin Rodriguez5silvermarlin9Kate Newman36George Lewis9Ethan Davis75Timothy Kim9
Emily Sanchez9 Emily Sanchez9 MemberOP
10 messages
joined Nov 2015
#1 ·
I’ve been chewing on something lately, and I’m sure I’m not the only one who noticed the exchange rate has climbed past 7.61. I can't help but wonder—what is actually driving this?

Are we looking at a repeat of that whole Swiss franc crisis, or is this just the natural ceiling where our local banks finally catch up to the global currency? Is there cause for genuine concern here?

On one hand, savers are probably breathing a sigh of relief, but what about everyone drowning in those Euro-denominated loans?

We went from 7.20 to 7.61 in what feels like the blink of an eye. Where does this trajectory actually lead?

If anyone here actually understands the mechanics behind this surge, I’d love a breakdown of what’s really going on...
dustymarlin10 dustymarlin10 Active Member
238 messages
joined Nov 2015
#2 ·
So, what’s the actual state of our national finances and the country as a whole?

The answer to that pretty much answers your question too. ☕

Thank god I finally cleared my last mortgage payment two days ago...
Olivia Turner49 Olivia Turner49 Active Member
51 messages
joined Nov 2015
#3 ·
Emily Sanchez9 said:I’ve been chewing on something lately, and I’m sure I’m not the only one who noticed the exchange rate has climbed past 7.61. I can't help but wonder—what is actually driving this?

Are we looking at a repeat of that whole Swiss franc crisis, or is this just the natural ceiling where our local banks finally catch up to the global currency? Is there cause for genuine concern here?

On one hand, savers are probably breathing a sigh of relief, but what about everyone drowning in those Euro-denominated loans?

We went from 7.20 to 7.61 in what feels like the blink of an eye. Where does this trajectory actually lead?

If anyone here actually understands the mechanics behind this surge, I’d love a breakdown of what’s really going on...

Honestly, it's pretty straightforward.
The trade deficit tells the whole story: people here need dollars, and nobody wants to touch the local currency.

But here’s the kicker—the trade deficit isn't even the biggest headache. The real issue is the mountain of debt that needs servicing. Right now, the government is scrambling to find any way possible to secure new credit just to pay off old debts and plug those holes.
Charles Ramos7 Charles Ramos7 Regular
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joined Jul 2010
#4 ·
Why all the panic? They’ll defend those boundaries until their last cent. 🙂
Ryan Carter52 Ryan Carter52 Active Member
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joined Jan 2015
#5 ·
I guess this whole thread really explains why everyone prefers saving their money in dollars rather than pesos...
dustyheron5 dustyheron5 Regular
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joined Nov 2015
#6 ·
The Euro exchange rate? That’s easy—just your standard summer-to-fall fluctuations. What I actually find baffling is why Mr. debil is leaning so heavily into Dollar-denominated debt. We are part of the European Union, and the Federal Reserve isn't exactly playing games while we push toward full integration... yet here we are, looking at plans to take on at least $1.5 to $2.0 billion more in USD at interest rates between 6.5% and 6.75%.

It’s almost ironic—Mr. debil and his circle used to mock everyday people for taking out loans in Swiss Francs—even though most folks aren't currency experts (unlike our dear leader, apparently)—and now they're pulling the exact same stunt. It makes you wonder how the Federal Reserve is supposed to defend both the Euro and the Dollar against the local currency all at once.

I'll grab some popcorn and settle in for this show.🙂
Sam Ruiz60 Sam Ruiz60 Member
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joined Nov 2015
#7 ·
dustyheron5 said:The Euro exchange rate? That’s easy—just your standard summer-to-fall fluctuations. What I actually find baffling is why Mr. debil is leaning so heavily into Dollar-denominated debt. We are part of the European Union, and the Federal Reserve isn't exactly playing games while we push toward full integration... yet here we are, looking at plans to take on at least $1.5 to $2.0 billion more in USD at interest rates between 6.5% and 6.75%.

It’s almost ironic—Mr. debil and his circle used to mock everyday people for taking out loans in Swiss Francs—even though most folks aren't currency experts (unlike our dear leader, apparently)—and now they're pulling the exact same stunt. It makes you wonder how the Federal Reserve is supposed to defend both the Euro and the Dollar against the local currency all at once.

I'll grab some popcorn and settle in for this show.🙂

Things have started moving earlier than expected.
One can only imagine what kind of shape everything will be in by the next peak tourist season.
In my view, we could be looking at a move toward the 7.8 or even 8 range.
Sam Ruiz60 Sam Ruiz60 Member
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joined Nov 2015
#8 ·
Charles Ramos7 said:Why all the panic? They’ll defend those boundaries until their last cent. 🙂

I have my doubts. It feels like someone whispered in Vujčić's ear that this current path just doesn't make sense, and now we're seeing a subtle shift in defense policy. Is he already preemptively pivoting to avoid an intervention from the Federal Reserve?

How exactly are we supposed to reduce wages? I can't see any other way to make this work, unless we go through with a massive devaluation of the dollar.
Harold Martin10 Harold Martin10 Active Member
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joined Nov 2015
#9 ·
dustyheron5 said:The Euro exchange rate? That’s easy—just your standard summer-to-fall fluctuations. What I actually find baffling is why Mr. debil is leaning so heavily into Dollar-denominated debt. We are part of the European Union, and the Federal Reserve isn't exactly playing games while we push toward full integration... yet here we are, looking at plans to take on at least $1.5 to $2.0 billion more in USD at interest rates between 6.5% and 6.75%.

It’s almost ironic—Mr. debil and his circle used to mock everyday people for taking out loans in Swiss Francs—even though most folks aren't currency experts (unlike our dear leader, apparently)—and now they're pulling the exact same stunt. It makes you wonder how the Federal Reserve is supposed to defend both the Euro and the Dollar against the local currency all at once.

I'll grab some popcorn and settle in for this show.🙂


It's true that the €/$ pair has been relatively steady lately, but don't let that fool you—it could easily slide to 1.20 or even lower within a year or two. But then again, why should Slavek care? He’s heading out the door once this term is up anyway.
Charles Ramos7 Charles Ramos7 Regular
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#10 ·
Sam Ruiz60 said:I have my doubts. It feels like someone whispered in Vujčić's ear that this current path just doesn't make sense, and now we're seeing a subtle shift in defense policy. Is he already preemptively pivoting to avoid an intervention from the Federal Reserve?

How exactly are we supposed to reduce wages? I can't see any other way to make this work, unless we go through with a massive devaluation of the dollar.

I have my doubts. It feels like someone whispered in Vujčić's ear that this current path just doesn't make sense, and now we're seeing a subtle shift in defense policy. Is he already preemptively pivoting to avoid an intervention from the Federal Reserve?

How exactly are we supposed to reduce wages? I can't see any other way to make this work, unless we go through with a massive devaluation of the dollar.
Look, I'm all for a realistic exchange rate—I'd love to say "amen" to that—but I'm not holding my breath.🤷
boldmarlin30 boldmarlin30 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2015
#11 ·
Sam Ruiz60 said:I have my doubts. It feels like someone whispered in Vujčić's ear that this current path just doesn't make sense, and now we're seeing a subtle shift in defense policy. Is he already preemptively pivoting to avoid an intervention from the Federal Reserve?

How exactly are we supposed to reduce wages? I can't see any other way to make this work, unless we go through with a massive devaluation of the dollar.

I have my doubts. It feels like someone whispered in Vujčić's ear that this current path just doesn't make sense, and now we're seeing a subtle shift in defense policy. Is he already preemptively pivoting to avoid an intervention from the Federal Reserve?

How exactly are we supposed to reduce wages? I can't see any other way to make this work, unless we go through with a massive devaluation of the dollar.
I wouldn't bet on it.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/speeches/g...-3-10-2013.pdf

"therefore, exchange rate stability is of utmost importance in countries with high dollarization"
Robin Rodriguez5 Robin Rodriguez5 Active Member
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joined Sep 2011
#12 ·
dustyheron5 said:The Euro exchange rate? That’s easy—just your standard summer-to-fall fluctuations. What I actually find baffling is why Mr. debil is leaning so heavily into Dollar-denominated debt. We are part of the European Union, and the Federal Reserve isn't exactly playing games while we push toward full integration... yet here we are, looking at plans to take on at least $1.5 to $2.0 billion more in USD at interest rates between 6.5% and 6.75%.

It’s almost ironic—Mr. debil and his circle used to mock everyday people for taking out loans in Swiss Francs—even though most folks aren't currency experts (unlike our dear leader, apparently)—and now they're pulling the exact same stunt. It makes you wonder how the Federal Reserve is supposed to defend both the Euro and the Dollar against the local currency all at once.

I'll grab some popcorn and settle in for this show.🙂

Standard fluctuations, sure, but the baseline is definitely higher than usual. I don't recall the average rate hitting 7.5 during the summer before.

And you hit the nail on the head regarding the dollar debt. When the Treasury Secretary is basically the most popular politician in a country like America, you know the whole system is broken.
silvermarlin9 silvermarlin9 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2015
#13 ·
So, I've got 20 $0.00 sitting in savings. Is it actually smart to swap at least some of it into dollars and then put that into a CD? Sure, the interest rate is lower, but isn't it safer if the dollar just keeps climbing against everything else? 🙂😲🙄
I was thinking about grabbing maybe 2,000 dollars to lock away, while leaving the other $1667 in dollars?

What would you guys do if you were holding that much cash?
Charles Ramos7 Charles Ramos7 Regular
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#14 ·
silvermarlin9 said:So, I've got 20 $0.00 sitting in savings. Is it actually smart to swap at least some of it into dollars and then put that into a CD? Sure, the interest rate is lower, but isn't it safer if the dollar just keeps climbing against everything else? 🙂😲🙄
I was thinking about grabbing maybe 2,000 dollars to lock away, while leaving the other $1667 in dollars?

What would you guys do if you were holding that much cash?

It really comes down to when you need the money and what currency you'll actually be spending it in...🤷
silvermarlin9 silvermarlin9 Newcomer
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#15 ·
Charles Ramos7 said:It really comes down to when you need the money and what currency you'll actually be spending it in...🤷

Look, most of it is basically just sitting "cemented" in a bank account anyway, so it’s not like I can just grab it on a whim... it'll have to be in dollars, obviously, since that's what we deal with here—but what happens when everything shifts over to the Euro? I'm just worried about the exchange rate going haywire and getting stuck with some terrible conversion rate. 😂
Charles Ramos7 Charles Ramos7 Regular
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#16 ·
silvermarlin9 said:Look, most of it is basically just sitting "cemented" in a bank account anyway, so it’s not like I can just grab it on a whim... it'll have to be in dollars, obviously, since that's what we deal with here—but what happens when everything shifts over to the Euro? I'm just worried about the exchange rate going haywire and getting stuck with some terrible conversion rate. 😂

Sure, the dollar is our currency now, but you might be driving over to Germany to buy a car in a month or so.🙂
I save in Euros anyway, so I'd suggest doing the same.
Kate Newman36 Kate Newman36 Newcomer
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#17 ·
The dollar is sliding just a bit, but we really need to hold off until next week to see if anyone actually steps up 🤷 and dumps more of those foreign exchange reserves...
Charles Ramos7 Charles Ramos7 Regular
529 messages
joined Jul 2010
#18 ·
Of course they will, unfortunately.
Kate Newman36 Kate Newman36 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2013
#19 ·
Are they trying to convince us the fight is finally winding down?
George Lewis9 George Lewis9 Active Member
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#20 ·
Linić didn't manage to rack up any debt while he was over in the USA—at least nothing under decent terms. I'm just sitting here waiting for him to drop the magic word "devaluation" any day now. 🙂

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