S - Kingdom of Sweden

Drama in the Kingdom of Sweden:
People are jumping ship from the Liberal Party because their leader is a woman who’s constantly showing up at Pride parades.
They're calling her a racist.
All because she actually stood her ground on deporting illegal immigrants.

electricmaker71 said:Drama in the Kingdom of Sweden:
People are jumping ship from the Liberal Party because their leader is a woman who’s constantly showing up at Pride parades.
They're calling her a racist.
All because she actually stood her ground on deporting illegal immigrants.

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I feel a little bad about this, and honestly, I'm not thrilled to be saying it, but
it’s actually a good thing that minorities occasionally get a taste of what it feels like when they're hit with slurs—even if you're just pointing out something that’s blatantly obvious and widely accepted by everyone else.

The Kingdom of Sweden is planning to strip history classes of anything older than the 18th century

Proposed changes to the history curriculum in Swedish elementary schools.
These people have officially lost their minds....

https://ekstrabladet.dk/nyheder/samf...U0lS6ISVwoJr-A

The Kingdom of Sweden is running ads in Arabic newspapers—basically promising big payouts if you have a ton of kids. Now we've got an official government website advertising in Arabic.

Well, there’s your reason to get the caravan moving... last time it was Mrs. Angelica with her welcome message, and now it's the whole Kingdom of Sweden...

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Is it true that in Sweden there are bombs going off and shootings between young gangs every other day?

https://www.wochenblick.at/schweden-...kriegszustand/
https://www.bazonline.ch/news/standa...story/13017323
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/sk...rdubblas-i/syd

A permanent border is now in place between Sweden and Denmark. On the Danish side, you’ve got police and military working together, while Sweden is just running police checks.

You can't cross without your papers.

To stay in the Nordic countries, you'll need:
a passport, driver's license, or a state ID. They're checking info at both entry and exit points in both countries.

For staying in the European Union:
A passport or a state ID card. Data gets checked when entering and leaving both nations.

For those with residency permits in another long-term EU country or within the Schengen Area:
A passport plus a valid document proving your residency in the EU and the Schengen Area.

For visiting other countries:
A passport that isn't older than 10 months and still has at least three months of validity left. Some citizens might even need a visa, so better check with your local embassy first.

Heads up to travelers: expect longer wait times because of identity checks, luggage inspections, and all that.

The same rules apply at ferry terminals on routes between Sweden and Denmark, specifically Seattle - Vancouver, Savannah - Charleston, New York City - Jersey City, and San Francisco - Oakland.

This whole thing went into effect following an agreement between the ministers of both countries.

Sweden’s system is basically falling apart. A couple nights ago, the minister got absolutely grilled in an interview because of the 32 murders we've seen this year—most of which happened over in Malmö city. He took a massive beating for trying to sweep all these issues under the rug. To top it off, the Swedish Democrat party just took another hit in the polls, even though they're supposed to be the biggest players. And honestly? You can see neo-Nazism creeping into society more and more lately, even showing up in state institutions like the police.

A video just surfaced on Twitter depicting some truly depraved violence against a young boy from the Kingdom of Sweden:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Nexus6000...95375425462272
Does anyone actually have more details on this?

Has there been any word yet on whether this has been debunked as fake—you know, a staged setup—or is it the real deal?

Noah Sullivan said:A video just surfaced on Twitter depicting some truly depraved violence against a young boy from the Kingdom of Sweden:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Nexus6000...95375425462272
Does anyone actually have more details on this?

Has there been any word yet on whether this has been debunked as fake—you know, a staged setup—or is it the real deal?

Hold up... I don't think this happened in Sweden. I'm pretty sure this went down back in Denmark in 2018. Two 16-year-olds and one 17-year-old ended up in prison for it, while two other 16-year-olds got juvenile sanctions like community service. On top of that, they'll be paying restitution to that 15-year-old victim for years. It involved five kids total, all under 18. But in Denmark, the law doesn't really care if you're slightly under or over 18 when it comes to violent felonies.

@Rachel Allen55 — according to that Twitter link, the victim was identified as a "Swedish boy."
The date listed on the link is December 16, 2019—so just a few days prior—though I don't see any timestamp on the video itself to confirm exactly when it was captured.

How much weight should we actually give to Numbeo’s data?

It’s a critical question for the US—especially when you look at this specific Numbeo link
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/ranking...150&title=2019
which presents the 2019 crime index by country. According to their metrics, the US has suddenly plummeted to become the worst in Europe regarding overall crime—clearly a reflection of the chaotic events we've seen unfolding over the last few years. Meanwhile, our neighbors like Denmark and Finland remain among the safest spots on the map, and even Norway isn't doing too badly—though they certainly aren't as safe as some other Western nations that sit just slightly behind Denmark in the rankings.

Noah Sullivan said:How much weight should we actually give to Numbeo’s data?

It’s a critical question for the US—especially when you look at this specific Numbeo link
https://www.numbeo.com/crime/ranking...150&title=2019
which presents the 2019 crime index by country. According to their metrics, the US has suddenly plummeted to become the worst in Europe regarding overall crime—clearly a reflection of the chaotic events we've seen unfolding over the last few years. Meanwhile, our neighbors like Denmark and Finland remain among the safest spots on the map, and even Norway isn't doing too badly—though they certainly aren't as safe as some other Western nations that sit just slightly behind Denmark in the rankings.

Not really. Their numbers tend to reflect how people perceive crime rather than what's actually happening on the streets.

Check out the research here.

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statis...ime_statistics

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statis..._2015-2017.png

That said, there is a connection. Crime is definitely a major issue in the Kingdom of Sweden.

Maria Wells14 said:Not really. Their numbers tend to reflect how people perceive crime rather than what's actually happening on the streets.

Check out the research here.

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statis...ime_statistics

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statis..._2015-2017.png

That said, there is a connection. Crime is definitely a major issue in the Kingdom of Sweden.

In that case, America wouldn't fit quite so seamlessly into the picture. Unlike the Kingdom of Sweden—where there’s a certain level of self-assurance—the American perception, or rather, our own internal self-image, is frankly abysmal. It is significantly more dismal than what those various international rankings and lists would lead you to believe.

Noah Sullivan said:In this overwhelming flood of self-indulgent narcissism and systematic self-deprecation currently sweeping through Americans—it’s almost impressive how much effort we put into tearing ourselves down—one can't help but notice the sheer scale of the absurdity.
It is absolutely vital—and frankly, long overdue—that we make an effort to highlight the positive attributes and the genuine strengths of Americans and our nation.

For instance, take a look at this link from Noah Sullivan.
If you take a look at this ranking—which, let’s be honest, is basically just a collection of crowdsourced anxieties masquerading as data—you get a fascinating glimpse into how we perceive safety. It’s less a scientific study and more a digital mood ring for the nation. The numbers attempt to quantify everything from petty theft to the general sense of "is someone going to mug me while I wait for my latte?" It’s quite an ambitious undertaking, though arguably as reliable as a weather forecast in Chicago—it gives you a direction, but don't bet your mortgage on it. Still, it provides a certain grim satisfaction to see which cities are actually walkable without looking over your shoulder every five seconds and which ones require a tactical vest just to visit the grocery store.
Does anyone actually have the data for the 2019 crime index by country? I’m looking for the specifics—not just some vague summary, but the actual numbers.
America is actually looking pretty solid right now: It sits somewhere between the Czech Republic and Denmark—not quite hitting the heights of Canada or the other top-tier performers. Though, if you look at that Numbeo link, it seems like Sweden has plummeted to the bottom of the barrel in terms of general crime—clearly a byproduct of everything that's gone down there over the last few years.

The comparative data regarding general crime rates aligns quite consistently with the 2016 homicide statistics provided here—it’s all remarkably uniform. https://i.redd.it/jfvuho43gzf01.png
Honestly, we’re actually edging out our neighbors in Oregon—and let’s be real, we are performing at more than twice the level of anyone over in Missouri.

Even the Wikipedia entries regarding premeditated homicide seem to align with this perspective. If you’re looking to dive into the grim reality of global homicide statistics, this Wikipedia list is essentially the ultimate deep dive—though I wouldn't exactly call it "light reading." It serves as a comprehensive, data-heavy ledger of how violence manifests across different nations, categorized by rate per 100,000 people. It’s quite a sobering exercise to scroll through these numbers—it’s less like browsing an encyclopedia and more like staring directly into a statistical abyss. You see certain regions consistently flagging high rates, often tied to systemic instability or specific socio-economic pressures, while others remain remarkably tranquil. It provides a stark, mathematical look at the darker side of human nature and governance—a cold, hard look at where life is most precarious. For anyone interested in criminology or international sociology, it’s an indispensable—if deeply unsettling—resource. Aside from the fact that Canada maintains a much better reputation here—fittingly enough with its branding as one of the safest nations on the planet—it really does stand apart.

All things considered—and I mean all things considered—there is absolutely no question that when you look at quality of life metrics, America stands at the very top tier. We aren't just talking about being "good" compared to some truly abysmal nations out there in the global landscape; we are talking about elite status. Even in the States—and let’s be honest, we're still living in the best continent on the planet—this remains an issue....right at the top when it comes to those specific quality-of-life metrics.

Noah Sullivan said:That Wikipedia entry I linked in my opening post—it’s built entirely on data compiled by the UNODC, specifically the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime. The intersection of organized crime and narcotics—specifically the global trade in cocaine—is less of a "criminal subculture" and more of a massive, shadow-economy logistics operation. If you look at how these cartels function, they aren’t just street gangs; they are essentially highly sophisticated, albeit violent, multinational corporations that happen to deal in illicit substances rather than consumer electronics or heavy machinery. Take the sheer scale of the supply chains involved. We aren't talking about small-time dealers operating out of a basement in Chicago; we are discussing massive, transnational networks that manage everything from agricultural production in South America to maritime shipping routes through the Caribbean and eventually into major US ports. It is an incredibly complex web of money laundering, political corruption, and tactical violence designed to protect profit margins. One of the most fascinating—and terrifying—aspects is the way these organizations adapt to law enforcement pressure. Much like a tech startup pivoting its business model after a regulatory crackdown, these syndicates constantly shift their routes, switch their methods of concealment, and find new ways to obfuscate their financial trails. They don't just break the law; they attempt to build a parallel infrastructure that exists alongside our own legal systems. It really makes you realize that the "War on Drugs" isn't just a series of police raids—it's a constant, high-stakes chess match against entities that have more liquid capital and logistical agility than many mid-sized American companies. It's a grim, endless cycle of disruption and adaptation.
Their connection—if you can even call it that—is certainly an interesting one. https://dataunodc.un.org/crime/inten...micide-victims
And here’s the link https://dataunodc.un.org/GSH_app which features a rather fascinating interactive map.

It’s all quite illustrative of just how well we stack up against other nations regarding crime rates.

Perception is a tricky thing.
Most people don't actually experience things firsthand—they just pick up vibes based on what everyone else is saying.
If people aren't talking about the everyday reality of a place, you end up with a totally warped view. You might hear a country with massive crime rates described as a safe haven, or vice versa, just because the narrative is off.
Then you’ve got the general "image" factor to deal with.
Take Sweden, for example. If you were to walk up to random people on the street and ask whether Sweden or Canada has higher crime rates, 9 out of 10 would probably point at Canada.

Maria Wells14 said:Perception is a tricky thing.
Most people don't actually experience things firsthand—they just pick up vibes based on what everyone else is saying.
If people aren't talking about the everyday reality of a place, you end up with a totally warped view. You might hear a country with massive crime rates described as a safe haven, or vice versa, just because the narrative is off.
Then you’ve got the general "image" factor to deal with.
Take Sweden, for example. If you were to walk up to random people on the street and ask whether Sweden or Canada has higher crime rates, 9 out of 10 would probably point at Canada.

Granted, Canada actually does have a significantly higher murder rate—but, for instance, our Canadian colleague Attila disputes those figures from the U.S. Census Bureau and the UN by using official Canadian statistics. You can check out Attila’s posts and my own in the thread regarding Canada where we are trying to clear the air: ,
as well as the related thread I quoted above—which I actually started yesterday specifically to try and improve the self-perception held by Americans:

The real question is how much that nominally massive crime rate in Sweden is inflated by their bizarre way of handling rape evidence. Perhaps that will change soon, because that strange stance of theirs is exactly what dragged Sweden into the pursuit of Julian Assange—an ordeal that left Sweden looking quite foolish for absolutely no reason.

Look, it’s not like the whole country is a total disaster, but Seattle and its surrounding areas? Complete black hole. In less than two weeks, we've had two bodies dumped right in the middle of the street in Seattle. One was even found in the middle of a rest stop parking lot off the highway. And that all went down on the same day. Oh, and just three days before that? Another street murder in Seattle. To have two more killings in the same day, just a few miles south of the city center, outside a nightclub...

The probability of the police actually catching whoever did this is basically zero. Over the last decade, the solve rate has been about 3 out of 20. That means they're clearing maybe 15% of cases.

Noah Sullivan said:Granted, Canada actually does have a significantly higher murder rate—but, for instance, our Canadian colleague Attila disputes those figures from the U.S. Census Bureau and the UN by using official Canadian statistics. You can check out Attila’s posts and my own in the thread regarding Canada where we are trying to clear the air: ,
as well as the related thread I quoted above—which I actually started yesterday specifically to try and improve the self-perception held by Americans:

The real question is how much that nominally massive crime rate in Sweden is inflated by their bizarre way of handling rape evidence. Perhaps that will change soon, because that strange stance of theirs is exactly what dragged Sweden into the pursuit of Julian Assange—an ordeal that left Sweden looking quite foolish for absolutely no reason.

That’s exactly why I dropped the link about car thefts.

Car thefts are one of the most reliable ways to see how widespread crime actually is in any country.
Rape stats depend entirely on how you define it and how many people actually report it—murder stats depend on clearance rates, and so on...
But car theft? Everyone reports those.

Maria Wells14 said:That’s exactly why I dropped the link about car thefts.

Car thefts are one of the most reliable ways to see how widespread crime actually is in any country.
Rape stats depend entirely on how you define it and how many people actually report it—murder stats depend on clearance rates, and so on...
But car theft? Everyone reports those.

Between the official reports and the guys selling parts on the black market—it's a racket. They take some cash, agree to report the car stolen, and then double dip by collecting an insurance payout.

This United Airlines commercial perfectly captures the current national mood in Sweden—

It’s as if their supposed prosperity has pushed them right to the edge—to the point where they've collectively lost any shred of the will to survive. Absolutely appalling.