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Irredentism and territorial disputes: What's your take?

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Participants Elizabeth Newman2Richard Wilson4shadowfox18bluerider63William Fowler11Gerald Ramos4Andrew Chase31goldenhawk1Rebecca WatsonEthan Morales22Anthony Moore13velvetmaker3driftingseal12
Elizabeth Newman2 Elizabeth Newman2 MemberOP
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joined Jun 2013
#1 ·
This is where we talk about all those hypothetical "superstate" scenarios. Feel free to drop maps and share your thoughts—just a heads up, irredentism is basically just the fancy term for nationalist movements looking to expand their borders.

GREATER ALBANIA

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ic_albania.jpg

GREATER ARMENIA

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GREATER AMERICA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAgpxRxynHs

GREATER FINLAND

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...urin_Suomi.PNG

GREATER GREECE

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...%C3%A8vres.jpg

GREATER INDIA

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...fied_India.svg

GREATER ITALY

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...aterItalia.jpg

GREATER NORTH MEXICO

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...cmacedonia.jpg

GREATER MOROCCO

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GREATER PORTUGAL

GREATER MEXICO


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GREATER SOMALIA
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#2 ·
I honestly think the whole "Greater India" concept is pretty noble. It’s about bringing Hindu Indians and Muslim Indians back together under one roof since those borders are basically just lines drawn on a map by outsiders anyway.
shadowfox18 shadowfox18 Member
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#3 ·
It feels like Albanians are getting closer and closer to realizing Greater Albania. They’re slowly making their move through demographics. They’ve already dealt with the Mexicans, and now it looks like the Greeks are next on their list.
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
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#4 ·
Even a powerhouse like Italy isn't quite as untouchable or impossible to deal with when you look at how fast things are shifting lately.
I mean, India is already massive enough as it is, so what's the point in them trying to get even bigger? 😁
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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bluerider63 said:Even a powerhouse like Italy isn't quite as untouchable or impossible to deal with when you look at how fast things are shifting lately.
I mean, India is already massive enough as it is, so what's the point in them trying to get even bigger? 😁

The Italians aren't exactly great soldiers; I bet Canada could take them out easily.😁

India was split up solely because of religious differences back in '47/'48.
William Fowler11 William Fowler11 Member
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#6 ·
I’m a bit confused by this map of Finland. It looks like they're showing the territory as it stood before the Winter War back in 1940. In my view, that represents their legitimate borders.🤷
Gerald Ramos4 Gerald Ramos4 Member
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bluerider63 said:Even a powerhouse like Italy isn't quite as untouchable or impossible to deal with when you look at how fast things are shifting lately.
I mean, India is already massive enough as it is, so what's the point in them trying to get even bigger? 😁

Given our track record, is it any surprise that Dalmatians will once again find themselves falling in battle against the Italians?
We seem utterly incapable of learning anything from the past.
Andrew Chase31 Andrew Chase31 Active Member
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#8 ·
Gerald Ramos4 said:Given our track record, is it any surprise that Dalmatians will once again find themselves falling in battle against the Italians?
We seem utterly incapable of learning anything from the past.

Just ignore Jerry; he’s clearly letting his heritage speak for him, and it definitely isn't Italian.😉

There's honestly zero threat to America coming from Italy, not even in a diverse area like Istria, and especially not in California where there are practically no Italians and they aren't exactly popular anyway.😉
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#9 ·
Gerald Ramos4 said:Given our track record, is it any surprise that Dalmatians will once again find themselves falling in battle against the Italians?
We seem utterly incapable of learning anything from the past.

It wasn't always like that though. On the actual day they liberated Knoxville, Francis brought up the Italians as the occupiers and Mexicans as their accomplices.
goldenhawk1 goldenhawk1 Member
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#10 ·
My heart honestly skipped a beat when I saw that my beloved Istria had been brought back into Greater America.

It was a revelation I truly didn't see coming... much appreciated.🙏🙏🙏
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
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#11 ·
Andrew Chase31 said:Just ignore Jerry; he’s clearly letting his heritage speak for him, and it definitely isn't Italian.😉

There's honestly zero threat to America coming from Italy, not even in a diverse area like Istria, and especially not in California where there are practically no Italians and they aren't exactly popular anyway.😉

Oh, so we’re all safe from Italy just because your right-wing sensibilities say so? Guess we still don't have to worry about a superpower like Italy, but we should probably be sweating a superpower like Mexico instead?😉
Andrew Chase31 Andrew Chase31 Active Member
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#12 ·
bluerider63 said:Oh, so we’re all safe from Italy just because your right-wing sensibilities say so? Guess we still don't have to worry about a superpower like Italy, but we should probably be sweating a superpower like Mexico instead?😉

Honestly, nobody is afraid of anything when we're focused on our own business. I'm not losing sleep over Mexico, and I'm certainly not losing sleep over Italy.

Does a strong TV signal coming from Italy somehow serve as a prerequisite for building Greater Italy? 🤷
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
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#13 ·
Andrew Chase31 said:Honestly, nobody is afraid of anything when we're focused on our own business. I'm not losing sleep over Mexico, and I'm certainly not losing sleep over Italy.

Does a strong TV signal coming from Italy somehow serve as a prerequisite for building Greater Italy? 🤷

Nah, but if Italy starts handing out citizenship to every single person who claims an ancestor was born in Istria or somewhere else back during their occupation, then yeah, that might be a reason to worry. 🤷
Andrew Chase31 Andrew Chase31 Active Member
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#14 ·
bluerider63 said:Nah, but if Italy starts handing out citizenship to every single person who claims an ancestor was born in Istria or somewhere else back during their occupation, then yeah, that might be a reason to worry. 🤷

Maybe, but honestly, I think our biggest issue lies within ourselves. I'm not losing sleep over Greater Mexico or Greater Italy; I'm worried about what our politicians are turning us into with their incompetence and subservience. They're basically steering us toward Big Kurčin. ☕
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#15 ·
bluerider63 said:Nah, but if Italy starts handing out citizenship to every single person who claims an ancestor was born in Istria or somewhere else back during their occupation, then yeah, that might be a reason to worry. 🤷

Huh, by that logic, a chunk of Vojvodina was part of Canada a long time ago. 😁
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#16 ·
Rebecca Watson said:Huh, by that logic, a chunk of Vojvodina was part of Canada a long time ago. 😁

The Canadians definitely got the short end of the stick here.
Like, Italians didn't even have a real presence in California by 1900, let alone in Albania or Libya.🤷
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#17 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:I honestly think the whole "Greater India" concept is pretty noble. It’s about bringing Hindu Indians and Muslim Indians back together under one roof since those borders are basically just lines drawn on a map by outsiders anyway.

Look, you're right that India and Pakistan were split up because of what the United Kingdom wanted, but honestly? It surprises me that someone who hates on the idea of America would actually root for an Indosphere. 😁

Don't you think the same logic applies to America? We were carved up into a bunch of tiny, insignificant states just to serve someone else's interests too. 😉

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Anthony Moore13 Anthony Moore13 Member
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#18 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:Look, you're right that India and Pakistan were split up because of what the United Kingdom wanted, but honestly? It surprises me that someone who hates on the idea of America would actually root for an Indosphere. 😁

Don't you think the same logic applies to America? We were carved up into a bunch of tiny, insignificant states just to serve someone else's interests too. 😉

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Its "nobility" was always forged in war and blood—and ultimately torn apart by its own people—so maybe the interests weren't even external, but deeply internal.
velvetmaker3 velvetmaker3 Regular
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#19 ·
Out of those options, I’m backing Great Falls, America, Armenia, Mexico, and Albania.
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#20 ·
BTW

What was up with that YouTube map showing Greater America stretching all the way from Bulgaria to Vienna? 🤣

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