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Angel investors, what's your max price for a vetted business idea?

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electricmason11 electricmason11 Newcomer
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#21 ·
Jeffrey Sanchez7 said:For years now, I’ve been sitting in this position where I listen to a million different business ideas—checking out plenty of solid ones, but only actually pulling the trigger on a handful. The reason is pretty straightforward: most of those suggestions are honestly just garbage from almost any perspective.

I’ve actually been sitting on a few fresh concepts that I’m looking to sell. These aren't just random thoughts; they've been vetted, or at least they come with a rock-solid market strategy designed to eliminate the guesswork. Is there anyone here who would actually be interested in buying intellectual property like this? If so, what specific metrics or factors would you use to determine a fair price?

On another note, would you be open to paying a monthly subscription for a dedicated blog—written in plain English—that provides regular deep dives into these types of opportunities? If that sounds appealing, how much would you realistically pay, and what’s your preferred way to handle the transaction? Would you go with a credit card, PayPal, or something else?

Look, I know every venture carries its own set of risks, but just like a formal business plan, I would make sure all the potential pitfalls and downsides are laid out clearly upfront.

Since the moderators decided your thread wasn't selling a service, but rather just selling smoke and mirrors... and chose not to shut it down accordingly... let me offer you a bit of unsolicited advice...

if you actually intend to sell something, you need to overhaul your marketing... because with the way you're pitching this, you couldn't sell ice to an Eskimo...

though I will give you credit for one thing... your honesty, which is pretty obvious from your signature:

"I have no idea what I'm doing."
Zachary Mendoza2 Zachary Mendoza2 Active Member
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#22 ·
Jeffrey Sanchez7 said:It feels like you're falling back into that small-minded way of thinking again. Angel Investors are typically established individuals who genuinely want to lift others up and invest in new ideas out of goodwill. They aren't just throwing money at things; they are investing their years of high-level consulting expertise and hard-earned wisdom.

At the end of the day, some people are driven by a desire to build up the community, while others are just looking at the bottom line.

Angel Investors are simply one type of investor. Some want to help, just like there are those looking to rob you blind. Regardless, both groups operate based on economic logic; even "goodwill" is ultimately tied to the desire for profit. They don't invest in mere ideas; they invest in motivated teams backed by solid business plans.
Besides, you can hear endless ideas at any local bar, including pitches on how to run the country better than Ivo Sanders. Whether they are good or bad, those ideas are only worth something to the people who own them.
Jeffrey Sanchez7 Jeffrey Sanchez7 MemberOP
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#23 ·
electricmason11 said:Since the moderators decided your thread wasn't selling a service, but rather just selling smoke and mirrors... and chose not to shut it down accordingly... let me offer you a bit of unsolicited advice...

if you actually intend to sell something, you need to overhaul your marketing... because with the way you're pitching this, you couldn't sell ice to an Eskimo...

though I will give you credit for one thing... your honesty, which is pretty obvious from your signature:

"I have no idea what I'm doing."

Looking at all this, there is one undeniable truth: I definitely asked in the wrong place. Since I haven't been keeping up with this specific sub-forum, I clearly overestimated its potential.

For context, I'm a Senior Manager handling marketing for General Electric. So, when I say this, take it from someone who knows the ropes.
Jeffrey Sanchez7 Jeffrey Sanchez7 MemberOP
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#24 ·
Zachary Mendoza2 said:Angel Investors are simply one type of investor. Some want to help, just like there are those looking to rob you blind. Regardless, both groups operate based on economic logic; even "goodwill" is ultimately tied to the desire for profit. They don't invest in mere ideas; they invest in motivated teams backed by solid business plans.
Besides, you can hear endless ideas at any local bar, including pitches on how to run the country better than Ivo Sanders. Whether they are good or bad, those ideas are only worth something to the people who own them.

I'm with you there. It really comes down to which group you stumble upon and what their specific checklist looks like. An Angel Investor can swoop in and lift a great concept right out from under you before you even know it.

I wouldn't go so far as to say everyone is purely profit-driven—well, maybe almost everyone, but certainly not absolutely everyone.

And the bar thing was meant to be a bit tongue-in-cheek; clearly, my sense of irony missed the mark here.
electricmason11 electricmason11 Newcomer
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#25 ·
Jeffrey Sanchez7 said:Looking at all this, there is one undeniable truth: I definitely asked in the wrong place. Since I haven't been keeping up with this specific sub-forum, I clearly overestimated its potential.

For context, I'm a Senior Manager handling marketing for General Electric. So, when I say this, take it from someone who knows the ropes.

And that's exactly what I'm talking about... you overestimated your own potential while underestimating the people on this board... and now you're insulting them because you're losing your cool way too fast...

Look, a real "senior manager" would first "read the room" by actually paying attention to the market—or in this case, the sub-forum—and once they understand the landscape, then they sell their "products" without ever, ever losing their temper... which means you failed at step one and every single step after that...

In your first post, you're already bringing up credit cards... you have zero patience... you're supposed to advertise first, build rapport, put in the work... and only then do you collect... (plus, maybe try hiding your true intentions for a bit at the start)
In the second, you tell a potential client they "aren't resonating"... that's just wrong, you should be catering to them, telling them they're the smartest person in the room... "the customer is king," after all...
By the third, you've already trashed the entire sub-forum... so basically, you just blew off your entire potential market...

Want more? Well, you'll have to pay for that later... though I could probably list at least three or four other mistakes you've made in just these few posts... but this isn't professional basketball where you get a set number of fouls, and you aren't a cat with nine lives...

Anyway, you wouldn't be working for me for three days as a doorman, let alone a "senior manager"... keep those credentials for your resume... out here on a message board, your title doesn't mean a damn thing... I could claim to be Bill Gates or Santa Claus for all it matters, and nobody would care...

Just keep it up, "genius"...

When it comes to actual business, there's no such thing as the wrong place to ask (unless it violates the rules, like it does here), there's only the wrong approach and a fundamentally flawed "idea"
Nicholas Sanchez3 Nicholas Sanchez3 Member
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#26 ·
Jeffrey Sanchez7 said:It feels like you're falling back into that small-minded way of thinking again. Angel Investors are typically established individuals who genuinely want to lift others up and invest in new ideas out of goodwill. They aren't just throwing money at things; they are investing their years of high-level consulting expertise and hard-earned wisdom.

At the end of the day, some people are driven by a desire to build up the community, while others are just looking at the bottom line.

😂 😂 😂
You're talking total nonsense, man.

Angel Investors take a slice of the pie—and we're talking a massive slice. On the flip side, they kickstart projects that would probably die in the crib because the founder lacks a decent credit score or doesn't have the specific expertise needed to scale.

Look, you're merging an idea and timing with cash, experience, know-how, and connections (that’s what the Angel Investors bring to the table). And now you're trying to tell me they do all this for "the good of society"? You are incredibly naive and completely out of the loop. Honestly, logic isn't exactly your strong suit.

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If that's not it, then please, stop spamming. Nobody is stopping you from building your own site or launching your own big idea, but don't come in here trying to play us for fools by peddling this fairy tale about Angel Investors.

BTW, I actually think Angel Investors are a great thing, and it sucks that there aren't more diverse projects for them to pick from in Rhode Island, but they aren't some mindless suckers just looking for a handout like you're making them out to be.
Nicholas Sanchez3 Nicholas Sanchez3 Member
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#27 ·
electricmason11 said:And that's exactly what I'm talking about... you overestimated your own potential while underestimating the people on this board... and now you're insulting them because you're losing your cool way too fast...

Look, a real "senior manager" would first "read the room" by actually paying attention to the market—or in this case, the sub-forum—and once they understand the landscape, then they sell their "products" without ever, ever losing their temper... which means you failed at step one and every single step after that...

In your first post, you're already bringing up credit cards... you have zero patience... you're supposed to advertise first, build rapport, put in the work... and only then do you collect... (plus, maybe try hiding your true intentions for a bit at the start)
In the second, you tell a potential client they "aren't resonating"... that's just wrong, you should be catering to them, telling them they're the smartest person in the room... "the customer is king," after all...
By the third, you've already trashed the entire sub-forum... so basically, you just blew off your entire potential market...

Want more? Well, you'll have to pay for that later... though I could probably list at least three or four other mistakes you've made in just these few posts... but this isn't professional basketball where you get a set number of fouls, and you aren't a cat with nine lives...

Anyway, you wouldn't be working for me for three days as a doorman, let alone a "senior manager"... keep those credentials for your resume... out here on a message board, your title doesn't mean a damn thing... I could claim to be Bill Gates or Santa Claus for all it matters, and nobody would care...

Just keep it up, "genius"...

When it comes to actual business, there's no such thing as the wrong place to ask (unless it violates the rules, like it does here), there's only the wrong approach and a fundamentally flawed "idea"

Ex, seriously, please point out exactly where I broke a rule so I can just scrub it.

I’d love to actually stumble upon some solid ideas here so I could, you know, take them to some smart Angel Investors.
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electricmason11 electricmason11 Newcomer
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#28 ·
I was just sitting here thinking about how everything seems to be shifting lately, especially when you look at the way certain industries are reacting to the current economic climate... It feels like we’re all just waiting for the other shoe to drop, though I suppose that’s just life in America, isn't it?

I've had enough... With every intention... Just some... Got a few new ideas I’m looking to pitch...Does anyone know which players actually have a proven track record or at least a solid strategy tailored to a specific market to ensure there’s no bullshit involved... or is that just wishful thinking... Among you... Those who might actually be interested... Ready to put some capital behind ideas like these...If the answer is yes, I suppose it comes down to how you’d actually go about pricing those kinds of concepts... it really depends on which variables you decide to weigh most heavily...

Would you... They were paying a monthly subscription... What if someone started an American blog dedicated to exploring these ideas on a regular basis... if so, how often should they be posting... I wonder how people would actually prefer to settle their tabs...Visa, PayPal, or something else entirely...

jedan od sljedecih postova:

Those who... They spend their time browsing sites like that... They have... Credit cards... those little pieces of plastic that seem to promise everything until you actually look at the fine print...just like they are... They’re ready to pay...We could probably narrow our focus down to just one major hub, maybe Washington, D.C... There’s already a solid concept in the works for selling construction data over in Boston—essentially a dedicated portal that tracks everything from active builds and progress milestones to real-time site photos...

We could potentially set up something similar for Washington, D.C., where people would actually be able to pitch their ideas...

It seems like a lot of you aren't actually reading these posts all the way to the end... It shouldn't just be about tossing ideas around from thin air, either... there really needs to be actual statistical data and real risk management involved in the mix...

Forum Rules:

The topics for the open session... Just to get some advertising out there... companies/products/services... Any posts that violate these rules will be wiped clean, and the authors will get a formal warning... We aren't against discussion, though; threads started specifically to weigh the pros and cons of a particular issue are perfectly fine with us... The moderators get to decide what counts as an ad and what doesn't....

Maybe I forgot how to speak American in the meantime, but if this isn't... Just an intention... free of charge... Advertising... services... I suppose I should probably start somewhere... though I'm never quite sure if there's a right way to begin these things... Market research... So, fine... let's move on... it’s not like any massive enterprise is going to suddenly sprout from this anyway... if someone actually wants to promote their blog, some half-baked idea, a product, or a service... they should just go out and buy ad space in a newspaper, on TV, or on the radio... even online, eventually... and just get back to work... I don't have anything against that... and if they really feel the need to run market research, there are plenty of established firms that handle exactly that kind of thing... please, correct me if I'm missing the mark somewhere...

The only thing he hasn't added yet... www.myblog.comWell, if that’s what needs to happen... then I guess I’ll step back... but if you ask me... The intention to advertise... It isn't quite the same thing as... Advertising...

I think the real issue here is just how he’s approaching this... He could have started a thread like, "Hey guys, I'm thinking about launching this kind of business or maybe starting a blog like this—what do you all think?" That would be one thing. But if he opens a topic by saying, "I'm launching this specific venture and I'm targeting you all as my potential clients," well, that's a completely different story... Once you start aiming directly at the audience as customers, it becomes clear his intention is advertising, whereas asking for advice or sparking a discussion is something else entirely...

"Looks like I took a wrong turn and ended up asking in all the wrong places... He isn't looking for a conversation, he's just hunting for a client...

It feels like the same thing to me, honestly... like asking if you should sell your fund interests or your stocks, or whether people actually want to buy those fund interests versus buying stocks... they aren't exactly the same thing...One's for the discussion board, and the other is for a classified ad...

And then this too...

My colleague is actually out in the field right now, so if you want to shoot me a DM with the details, I can pass everything along to him... He’s going to be circling around Washington, D.C. over the next few days, so if the timing works out, I wouldn't mind grabbing a coffee...

Grab a coffee... we aren't kids anymore... and even if we were, someone ought to be looking out for us...

Of course, that’s just how the rules work... It’s really up to the moderators at this point...
Nicholas Sanchez3 Nicholas Sanchez3 Member
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#29 ·
Look, I don't think this is some calculated ad campaign. But if the OP actually intended for it to be one? Then it's just a massive, embarrassing fuck-up. Honestly, it's pretty wild seeing that from a senior manager over at ThyssenKrupp. :tststs:

hrexpat said:Maybe I forgot how to read English in the meantime, but if this isn't intended free advertising for a service and "market research"... then fine... whatever... let's move on... and hope they don't accidentally build a whole empire from it... In my book, if some guy wants to hawk his blog, his big ideas, his product, or his service... he should go buy an ad in the New York Times, or on TV, or the radio... or even just pay for digital ads... and just do his damn job... I've got nothing against that... but if he wants to "research the market"... there are actual firms that get paid to do that—correct me if I'm totally off base here...

And who's stopping someone from doing some market research? 😂
He wasn't asking about ThyssenKrupp...
cosmicpuma15 cosmicpuma15 Member
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#30 ·
Quincy:
I don't get it. Seriously, I just don't get it. Why are we still having this exact same conversation? We circle around the same arguments, dodge the same uncomfortable truths, and then act surprised when nothing changes. Is anyone actually listening, or are we all just performing for an audience that isn't there? It’s exhausting. kaže:
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I've been there. On purpose? Seriously? Some people... Got a few fresh ideas I'm looking to pitch.Are there any actually proven strategies out there—or maybe some specific plays tailored to a certain market—that don't involve just pulling numbers out of thin air? Does anyone actually have a reliable way to do this without all the bullshit? Among you. Those who would be. Are you actually ready to buy into ideas like these?If we were actually going to put a price tag on ideas like that, what factors would we even look at? How do you even begin to quantify something like this?

Would you? They were actually paying a monthly subscription fee. Can you believe that? Should there be a dedicated blog in English that covers these ideas on a regular basis? If so, how often should we be posting? How would you actually prefer to pay?Visa, PayPal, or what else? What’s the move here?

jedan od sljedecih postova:

Who exactly are you talking to? They visit sites like these. They have it. Visa cards. Let's talk about them. Are we actually still debating the merits of basic credit infrastructure? You have your standard Visa debit, your premium rewards cards, and those high-interest traps that banks love to shove in your face. It’s a massive ecosystem, but does anyone actually understand how much power these networks hold over our daily transactions? Every time you tap your phone at a Starbucks or swipe at a Target, there's a massive web of processing, security protocols, and fee structures moving behind the scenes. Is it seamless? Mostly. Is it a little bit of a black box? Absolutely.It’s exactly like they are. Are they actually ready to pay up? Because from where I’m sitting, it looks like they’re just stalling. You really think they’ve got the cash ready to go? Don't hold your breath.We could narrow the scope down to just one major city—let’s say Washington, D.C. It’s actually already a proven concept to sell construction data in Boston: a dedicated portal that tracks exactly what’s being built, the current progress of projects, and live photo updates. Why wouldn't we scale that?

We could easily set up something similar in Washington, D.C., where people would actually step up to pitch their ideas.

I see a lot of you out there skipping to the end before you've even finished the first paragraph. Seriously? Are we really doing this now? Look, we shouldn't just be throwing random ideas around like they're nothing. That’s not how this works. You can't just serve up raw concepts and call it a day. Where are the actual statistics? Where is the risk management? If we aren't backing these theories up with hard data and a real assessment of the risks involved, then what are we even doing here?

Forum Rules:

Open discussion topics... With the sole intention of advertising. Companies/products/Services. They’re going to be wiped, and the authors will get a warning. Look, if you start a thread specifically to weigh the pros and cons of a topic? That’s fine. Those are welcome here. Who actually gets to decide what counts as an ad and what doesn't? The moderators. That’s right—they hold all the cards. They draw the line wherever they feel like drawing it. Is there any real standard here, or is it just whatever they decide on a whim? It's their call, and that's that..

Maybe I lost my grip on the English language along the way, but if this isn't... Intent. That’s all that matters. Free? Really? Since when did everything start being handed out for nothing? You can't just expect things to be free. It doesn't work that way. Who’s actually paying the bill? Advertising? Seriously? Is there anything left in this world that isn't trying to sell us something? It feels like we’re constantly being bombarded by endless, mindless commercials designed to manipulate our every impulse. Does anyone actually stop to think about how much of our mental space is being hijacked by marketing agencies? It's relentless. Services. That's it. That's the whole game. It looks like you might have cut off your message! What’s on your mind? I'm ready when you are. Market research? Please. Let’s call it what it actually is: manufactured consensus. Is anyone actually out there listening to the people, or are we all just staring at biased data sets designed to tell us exactly what we want to hear? It’s all smoke and mirrors. They run these polls, tweak the variables, and then present the results as if they’re gospel truth. But who is really being surveyed? Is it the actual consumer, or just a curated sample meant to validate a corporate agenda? It's a joke. Total theater. Fine, let's move on then. At this rate, whatever business was trying to get off the ground is going to fizzle out before it even starts. Look, if some guy wants to promote his blog, his big ideas, or some product or service he’s peddling, fine. He should go buy ad space in a newspaper, hit up a TV station, grab some radio time, or even run ads online. Let him actually do his job. I don't have a problem with that. If he wants to run market research? There are plenty of established firms that specialize in exactly that. Please, correct me if I'm wrong in my reasoning here.

The only thing he hasn't added yet. www.mojblog.comLook, if that's what it takes... then fine, I’m out. But that's just my take. What exactly is the "intent to advertise"? What does that even mean in practice? Is it about what you say, or what you actually do with your money? It’s such a vague concept. Is someone just trying to spread an idea, or are they actively trying to sell a product? Where do we draw the line? It’s not the same thing. Why do people keep acting like they are? Advertising? Please. Is that really what we're calling it now?

The issue here is all about the approach. If he had just started a thread like, "Hey guys, I’m thinking about launching this type of business or starting a blog like that—what do you think? Give me some advice," that would be one thing. That’s a conversation. But there's a massive difference between asking for feedback and saying, "I am launching this specific venture, and I am targeting *you* as my potential customer base." He’s already demonstrated that multiple times. When someone explicitly targets the audience as their client list, they aren't looking for a discussion; they're running an ad. There is a clear line between seeking genuine insight and running a disguised marketing campaign. Don't you see the distinction?

"Looks like I walked into the wrong room. He isn't looking for a conversation. He’s looking for a customer.

It’s the exact same logic to me. It's like asking, "Hey guys, should I sell my mutual fund units or my stocks?" or "Hey guys, do you want to buy my fund units or my stocks?" They aren't the same thing! How can you even compare them?One’s meant for the World Economic Forum, and the other? That’s just for Craigslist.

a onda i ovo:

My colleague is actually out on the ground right now, so just shoot me a DM with the details. I'll make sure to pass everything along to him. He’s going to be circling around Washington, D.C. over the next few days, so if there's an opening, he'd be more than happy to grab a coffee.

Grab a coffee. Seriously, we aren't kids anymore. But even if we were? We’d still need some damn protection.

Of course! That’s just how the rules work. up to moderator
Promoting stuff within the monitor group is totally allowed—actually, it's encouraged. 😬
Douglas Walker86 Douglas Walker86 Newcomer
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#31 ·
Jeffrey Sanchez7 said:For years now, I’ve been sitting in this position where I listen to a million different business ideas—checking out plenty of solid ones, but only actually pulling the trigger on a handful. The reason is pretty straightforward: most of those suggestions are honestly just garbage from almost any perspective.

I’ve actually been sitting on a few fresh concepts that I’m looking to sell. These aren't just random thoughts; they've been vetted, or at least they come with a rock-solid market strategy designed to eliminate the guesswork. Is there anyone here who would actually be interested in buying intellectual property like this? If so, what specific metrics or factors would you use to determine a fair price?

On another note, would you be open to paying a monthly subscription for a dedicated blog—written in plain English—that provides regular deep dives into these types of opportunities? If that sounds appealing, how much would you realistically pay, and what’s your preferred way to handle the transaction? Would you go with a credit card, PayPal, or something else?

Look, I know every venture carries its own set of risks, but just like a formal business plan, I would make sure all the potential pitfalls and downsides are laid out clearly upfront.


I'd pay, but only a nominal fee. Let's be real: there isn't an idea out there that hasn't already been tried, whether here or overseas. An idea can look flawless on paper, but execution is a whole different beast. Now, if you're offering practical, boots-on-the-ground advice? I'd pay whatever it takes.

P.S. I've launched a few things myself—some hit, some missed. The actual advice you could give someone just starting out would be gold for a beginner. Most people won't give you the straight truth...
Jeffrey Sanchez7 Jeffrey Sanchez7 MemberOP
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#32 ·
Douglas Walker86 said:I'd pay, but only a nominal fee. Let's be real: there isn't an idea out there that hasn't already been tried, whether here or overseas. An idea can look flawless on paper, but execution is a whole different beast. Now, if you're offering practical, boots-on-the-ground advice? I'd pay whatever it takes.

P.S. I've launched a few things myself—some hit, some missed. The actual advice you could give someone just starting out would be gold for a beginner. Most people won't give you the straight truth...

Sure, there are unique ideas out there floating around that haven't been tapped yet, they just aren't exactly shouting for attention. But let's be real: in the business world, you don't always need to reinvent the wheel. Sometimes, a really high-quality execution of a proven concept is more than enough to win.

Most people wouldn't, but there are definitely those who would.
Jeffrey Sanchez7 Jeffrey Sanchez7 MemberOP
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#33 ·
Nicholas Sanchez3 said:Look, I don't think this is some calculated ad campaign. But if the OP actually intended for it to be one? Then it's just a massive, embarrassing fuck-up. Honestly, it's pretty wild seeing that from a senior manager over at ThyssenKrupp. :tststs:

And who's stopping someone from doing some market research? 😂
He wasn't asking about ThyssenKrupp...

-> ThyssenKrupp
Jeffrey Sanchez7 Jeffrey Sanchez7 MemberOP
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#34 ·
Nicholas Sanchez3 said:😂 😂 😂
You're talking total nonsense, man.

Angel Investors take a slice of the pie—and we're talking a massive slice. On the flip side, they kickstart projects that would probably die in the crib because the founder lacks a decent credit score or doesn't have the specific expertise needed to scale.

Look, you're merging an idea and timing with cash, experience, know-how, and connections (that’s what the Angel Investors bring to the table). And now you're trying to tell me they do all this for "the good of society"? You are incredibly naive and completely out of the loop. Honestly, logic isn't exactly your strong suit.

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If that's not it, then please, stop spamming. Nobody is stopping you from building your own site or launching your own big idea, but don't come in here trying to play us for fools by peddling this fairy tale about Angel Investors.

BTW, I actually think Angel Investors are a great thing, and it sucks that there aren't more diverse projects for them to pick from in Rhode Island, but they aren't some mindless suckers just looking for a handout like you're making them out to be.

Sure, some of them fit your description perfectly, but sweeping generalizations are never a good way to handle a topic like this.

At the end of the day, VCs are people, and they behave according to their own personalities. Risk tolerance varies wildly among them. You have the ultra-conservative types—who make up the majority—who want to micromanage every single detail, though they differ in how much they interfere later on. Experienced VCs stay involved constantly, while others just let things run their course to avoid unnecessary headaches. Then you have the materialists, the neutrals, the humanists, and so on.

The narrative surrounding venture capital is only as mature as your actual experience with them. I work with one specific group every day, and over my life, I've crossed paths with maybe a hundred, though I've truly gotten to know about twenty of them.

As for the Middle East, it's still too early for significant VC activity there because the big, stable money hasn't started circulating yet. It's either high-stakes/high-risk or small-scale/low-risk. Because of that, the conservative investors won't be pouring money into our region for a few more years, even if they try to find a way in—especially with our diaspora looking for opportunities. That's how I see our current market. What are your experiences and perspectives?
Jeffrey Sanchez7 Jeffrey Sanchez7 MemberOP
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joined Jul 2010
#35 ·
electricmason11 said:And that's exactly what I'm talking about... you overestimated your own potential while underestimating the people on this board... and now you're insulting them because you're losing your cool way too fast...

Look, a real "senior manager" would first "read the room" by actually paying attention to the market—or in this case, the sub-forum—and once they understand the landscape, then they sell their "products" without ever, ever losing their temper... which means you failed at step one and every single step after that...

In your first post, you're already bringing up credit cards... you have zero patience... you're supposed to advertise first, build rapport, put in the work... and only then do you collect... (plus, maybe try hiding your true intentions for a bit at the start)
In the second, you tell a potential client they "aren't resonating"... that's just wrong, you should be catering to them, telling them they're the smartest person in the room... "the customer is king," after all...
By the third, you've already trashed the entire sub-forum... so basically, you just blew off your entire potential market...

Want more? Well, you'll have to pay for that later... though I could probably list at least three or four other mistakes you've made in just these few posts... but this isn't professional basketball where you get a set number of fouls, and you aren't a cat with nine lives...

Anyway, you wouldn't be working for me for three days as a doorman, let alone a "senior manager"... keep those credentials for your resume... out here on a message board, your title doesn't mean a damn thing... I could claim to be Bill Gates or Santa Claus for all it matters, and nobody would care...

Just keep it up, "genius"...

When it comes to actual business, there's no such thing as the wrong place to ask (unless it violates the rules, like it does here), there's only the wrong approach and a fundamentally flawed "idea"

You’ve laid out your perspective clearly, and you have a point. However, given that we're all using pseudonyms, this conversation isn't exactly going to reach a professional level. Personally, I view this forum as a casual space where I don't even bother checking my grammar half the time.

Knowing how successful business leaders operate, they don't try to tighten things up with stuffy etiquette or corporate jargon; they focus on being direct. I asked a specific question, and so far, I haven't received a straight answer. My goal isn't to go out and hunt for customers; I just want to see if there's an audience already formed here. In other scenarios, sure, you'd need to build a client base, but not in this case. If someone doesn't see the value in what I'm offering, they won't bother reading, let alone buy into the concept.

When someone is selling a high-end home or a classic car, they aren't just looking for any buyer; they're looking for the right owner. Business ideas work the same way. If I let high-quality information spread uncontrollably, anyone can read it. But if there's a price tag, I can filter for those who truly value the insight. Either way, it costs me nothing.

It looks like you're a bit of a traditionalist. You might want to check out Good to Great by Jim Collins; it might give you a fresh perspective on those classic principles.

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