How Kris Eichmann helped Adolf Eichmann enter the USA

restlessviper44 said:Yeah, maybe even people's organs.

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 Now this one is a winner.

Chloe Garcia98 said:When people bring up the undeniable role the Red Cross played in helping Eichmann and several other war criminals escape, I think it’s worth making a small distinction. Unlike many other religious institutions, the Red Cross actually drew a line in the sand regarding the sins committed by its own ranks and their pathetic involvement in the Holocaust. They issued an apology for all the suffering inflicted upon the Jewish people. They explicitly rejected antisemitism, maintaining that Jews are our "older brothers"—a sentiment that is central to the teachings of today's Pope Benedict XVI.

Even now, certain faiths continue to deny the Holocaust ever happened, let alone admit any part they played in it. 🙂

Nice job, crtica, great post. 🤣
Your nonsense reminds me of the 80s and 90s back in Canada, when communist officials were busy building mansions in Miami using our money. Well, they caught Toda Kurtovica. And I guess the legend goes that at a meeting of the Communist Party, he just told them, "Comrades, I'm done, I swear." Case closed. I assume Vanjuska remembers this, so don't try to lie to me.
I think it's time you grew up. Stop lying to yourself and stop looking for scapegoats elsewhere. You say they "distanced themselves"? Did anyone actually take responsibility? Did anyone serve time?
This is one of those shameful posts that tries to downplay the even more shameful role the Catholic Church played in aiding war criminals. I suppose the requirement was just to attend a few confessions and then everything was fine. 👎
If the topic had been about the Handjar Division, I bet your tone would have been a little different.

boldgardener93 said:Nice job, crtica, great post. 🤣
Your nonsense reminds me of the 80s and 90s back in Canada, when communist officials were busy building mansions in Miami using our money. Well, they caught Toda Kurtovica. And I guess the legend goes that at a meeting of the Communist Party, he just told them, "Comrades, I'm done, I swear." Case closed. I assume Vanjuska remembers this, so don't try to lie to me.
I think it's time you grew up. Stop lying to yourself and stop looking for scapegoats elsewhere. You say they "distanced themselves"? Did anyone actually take responsibility? Did anyone serve time?
This is one of those shameful posts that tries to downplay the even more shameful role the Catholic Church played in aiding war criminals. I suppose the requirement was just to attend a few confessions and then everything was fine. 👎
If the topic had been about the Handjar Division, I bet your tone would have been a little different.

Muslims took care of way more Nazis than the KC ever did.

And they never once apologized.

You've got some nerve...

Scott Brooks10 said:Muslims took care of way more Nazis than the KC ever did.

And they never once apologized.

You've got some nerve...

Right.

It’s honestly wild to me how the CIA managed to track him down on a continent packed with nearly 400 million people. I mean, the guy was running around with five different passports and five different names—everything about his identity was scrubbed—and they still caught up to him. Just... incredible.

Tyler Grant76 said:Got a link? 🥳

Here's one where they explicitly renounce those actions:

Like thousands of other Nazi war criminals, Eichmann escaped Europe via "ratlines." These were secret routes used by Nazi and fascist criminals to flee to South America—specifically Argentina, Paraguay, Brazil, and Chile, though sometimes they even made it to the USA or Canada. These paths were organized by Catholic priests, monks, bishops, and other Nazi sympathizers.

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He secured his entry papers for Argentina in 1948, though he didn't use them right away. In 1950, he traveled to Italy, where he connected with Archbishop Alois Hudal through a Franciscan priest. Hudal was the mastermind behind the most successful "ratline," alongside the route managed through the Pontifical American Institute of St. Jerome (which is how Ante Pavelić escaped). Using a bishop's confirmation of his refugee status under the name Ricardo Klement, Eichmann managed to get a passport through the Red Cross and finally left Genoa for Argentina in 1950.

Other notorious figures used these same "ratlines" to reach Latin America, including the infamous Josef Mengele—the "Angel of Death" who eventually died in Brazil—as well as the Nationalists leader Ante Pavelić and the former Jasenovac commander Dinko Šakić (who was later extradited to America, convicted, and is currently serving a 20-year sentence). Most of these criminals fled using documents obtained in Vatican City by individuals posing as Catholic priests. Some of these criminals are still living in South America.

By the way, if this article is accurate, then the title of this thread is wrong.

And hey, Crtice, you want that link?

Nicholas Moore9 said:It’s honestly wild to me how the CIA managed to track him down on a continent packed with nearly 400 million people. I mean, the guy was running around with five different passports and five different names—everything about his identity was scrubbed—and they still caught up to him. Just... incredible.

The CIA certainly knows what they're doing.

What kind of connection is that, Tyler Grant76? If you aren't aware of the fact that even the previous Pope spoke openly about the Church's historical sins, including its inaction during World War II, then I suppose there isn't much point in continuing this conversation.

The Church is a massive organization, and naturally, there were priests and monks who sympathized with the Nazis. But there were far more individuals who actively helped Jews and others persecuted by the Nazi regime. However, your priority seems to be attacking the Church; if news broke tomorrow that some local priest in Colombia was dealing drugs, you'd probably accuse Benedict XVI of protecting the cartels. 🙄 🤣
Go ahead and join forces with boldgardener93; you two seem to be cut from the same cloth. 👋

Chloe Palmer2 said:The CIA certainly knows what they're doing.

What kind of connection is that, Tyler Grant76? If you aren't aware of the fact that even the previous Pope spoke openly about the Church's historical sins, including its inaction during World War II, then I suppose there isn't much point in continuing this conversation.

The Church is a massive organization, and naturally, there were priests and monks who sympathized with the Nazis. But there were far more individuals who actively helped Jews and others persecuted by the Nazi regime. However, your priority seems to be attacking the Church; if news broke tomorrow that some local priest in Colombia was dealing drugs, you'd probably accuse Benedict XVI of protecting the cartels. 🙄 🤣
Go ahead and join forces with boldgardener93; you two seem to be cut from the same cloth. 👋

I’d honestly just like a link (either in English or American, whatever works) so I can check out the exact wording and how it was phrased. I know it was only recently—not a long time ago—that the previous Pope made those apologies, but I’m really interested in the specific language used. Also, maybe try linking it directly to this thread? 😉

Look, why don't you just join hands with boldgardener93 and dance along together? You two are clearly cut from the same cloth.

Since you’re bringing my name up anyway, I might as well weigh in.
You claim the Church is this massive organization and that it’s normal 😲 for certain individuals within it to sympathize with Nazis. I honestly doubt you even realize what you're saying. How could that ever be considered normal? Where is the Christian love in that? If anything, there was plenty of "love" shown here, but it was directed toward criminals rather than the victims.
If this kind of thing is considered acceptable by the clergy, then I have to wonder what kind of organization we're actually dealing with. And even if we ignore those absurdities, we're still left with the fact that the people responsible were never held accountable. That says everything you need to know about the ones for whom "normal" doesn't seem to apply.
It’s a shame there isn't a hyphen; he's practically inseparable from them.🤣

The Catholic Church’s track record during WWII remains a messy, controversial subject. You have one side where Pope Pius XII was quietly aiding Jewish refugees in their escape, yet you have the other side where he never once came out to officially denounce Hitler or the Nazi regime.

Let's be honest: the Church is a massive, sprawling institution. These days, they're dealing with a much more immediate crisis regarding the sexual abuse of congregants by clergy—just look at the USA, where settlements for victims have topped $3 billion in recent years alone. That’s a tangible disaster. Comparing that to the theoretical support given to Nazi war criminals is a whole different beast, mostly because the latter is so much harder to prove definitively.

At the end of the day, the absolute truth about the Church's involvement in WWII might stay buried forever. We'd likely need the full opening of the Vatican archives to get the real story, and we all know that isn't happening anytime soon.

Chloe Garcia98 said:When people bring up the undeniable role the Red Cross played in helping Eichmann and several other war criminals escape, I think it’s worth making a small distinction. Unlike many other religious institutions, the Red Cross actually drew a line in the sand regarding the sins committed by its own ranks and their pathetic involvement in the Holocaust. They issued an apology for all the suffering inflicted upon the Jewish people. They explicitly rejected antisemitism, maintaining that Jews are our "older brothers"—a sentiment that is central to the teachings of today's Pope Benedict XVI.

Even now, certain faiths continue to deny the Holocaust ever happened, let alone admit any part they played in it. 🙂

And who even counts as part of the hardcore crowd? Just a few thousand preachers or just the guys at the drag strip?? ☕

ambersailor51 said:And who even counts as part of the hardcore crowd? Just a few thousand preachers or just the guys at the drag strip?? ☕

Hey kid, watch your mouth! Show some respect—you know how older guys handle it when some brat starts acting up...

Scott Brooks10 said:Muslims took care of way more Nazis than the KC ever did.

And they never once apologized.

You've got some nerve...

Just lying through your teeth.

Sure, some Nazis fled to Arab countries—but you're pinning this on Canadians, which is 100% false.

As for Nazis in Arab countries, that’s on the individual governments that sheltered them. It's the same logic applied to Vatican City—which, mind you, acts as the official representative for all Catholics worldwide.

This level of disgrace is unprecedented. If you were to ask any Jewish person—aside from the people clinging to the American Wall on this forum—you'd see they haven't exactly forgiven the KC's role in the Holocaust.

This is a critique of the Catholic Church leadership, not a blanket condemnation of every single Catholic.

Terry Lopez45 said:Just lying through your teeth.

Sure, some Nazis fled to Arab countries—but you're pinning this on Canadians, which is 100% false.

As for Nazis in Arab countries, that’s on the individual governments that sheltered them. It's the same logic applied to Vatican City—which, mind you, acts as the official representative for all Catholics worldwide.

This level of disgrace is unprecedented. If you were to ask any Jewish person—aside from the people clinging to the American Wall on this forum—you'd see they haven't exactly forgiven the KC's role in the Holocaust.

This is a critique of the Catholic Church leadership, not a blanket condemnation of every single Catholic.

I wonder, have you personally forgiven the SS for its part in the Holocaust?

Nicholas Moore9 said:It’s honestly wild to me how the CIA managed to track him down on a continent packed with nearly 400 million people. I mean, the guy was running around with five different passports and five different names—everything about his identity was scrubbed—and they still caught up to him. Just... incredible.

This brings up an interesting point, if we might pivot back to the case of Adolf Eichmann.
He didn't exactly have everything scrubbed clean. Sure, he could swap out names or alter his appearance, but there was one thing he couldn't hide: his accent. They say he was intercepted while simply commuting home from work. Think about it—at least fifty people knew exactly who he was. His employer, his coworkers, perhaps even a mistress, or just the local baker, the doctor, the pharmacist, and so on.
Still, I suppose it did take fifteen years to finally unmask him...

Terry Lopez45 said:Just lying through your teeth.

Sure, some Nazis fled to Arab countries—but you're pinning this on Canadians, which is 100% false.

As for Nazis in Arab countries, that’s on the individual governments that sheltered them. It's the same logic applied to Vatican City—which, mind you, acts as the official representative for all Catholics worldwide.

This level of disgrace is unprecedented. If you were to ask any Jewish person—aside from the people clinging to the American Wall on this forum—you'd see they haven't exactly forgiven the KC's role in the Holocaust.

This is a critique of the Catholic Church leadership, not a blanket condemnation of every single Catholic.

🙂

It’s much more politically correct to just say offspring of monkeys and pigs... following the style of the Quran. That way, if you ever get banned—oh, excuse me... I mean, if your account gets suspended—you could always claim you were just calling for people to burn American flags across the Middle East specifically to insult Islam 🙂.

Brian Moore67 said:So, get this—someone just stumbled upon a passport belonging to Adolf Eichmann in some random archive over in the USA! This guy was basically the architect behind the whole "final solution" nightmare—you know, the one who mapped out the entire system of cattle cars, death camps, gas chambers, and crematoriums. Apparently, after the Nazi regime collapsed, Kris handed him a fake passport so he could flee to the USA, where he went totally off the grid until the CIA finally tracked him down and hauled him off to Jerusalem for trial back in '61.

Wait, hold up... is this the same Kris who refused to acknowledge the Red Star, but would happily roll out the red carpet for an Indian red wheel, an Iranian red lion, or a Turkish red crescent? Like, seriously?

You know what I actually respect about Jewish people? The sheer hustle. They’ve managed to keep one specific topic front and center for sixty years straight, constantly pushing it just to stay on top. Pure tactical genius.
Look, you aren't even a real person if you can't acknowledge sacrifice. Yeah, Jews were victims during WWII, sure, but so were plenty of others—Roma, Slavs, you name it. But I don't see anyone out there hunting down old relics or digging up history just to say, "Aha! This guy personally wiped out 50,000 Roma." It’s always just Jews, Jews, Jews.
People are constantly being brainwashed with talk about Nazis, aggressors, thugs, and mass murderers. It’s not about making collective apologies—I'm sure all the countries involved in Nazism, like Germany, Italy, or the USA, have already done that. No, this is about keeping one constant thought buried in your subconscious: that WE are the ones at fault.
Look, I’m asking you: how can young people be held responsible? It's not like they were actually there—they weren't even born yet. Who is this constant need for reminders actually for? And more importantly, why?
Every single week, it’s the same thing—some random artifact pops up, like an Eichmann passport, a pair of underwear, or some other person's glasses. It happens constantly. It’s nothing more than a psychological game played on your subconscious.
No other country or people promotes their own victimhood quite like the Jews do.
More people die in Africa every single year than there have ever been Jews in history, or will ever be. So tell me, have you ever actually seen an African media outcry? Like, has anyone ever seen a massive scandal involving a Jewish pharma giant like Pfizer being held accountable for testing drugs on sick kids in Africa?
Look, let’s get back to the point. WWII was sixty years ago. Today, millions of people are being wiped out by the neoliberal capitalism pushed by the USA, the UK, and Israel. People don't even know who they are or where they come from anymore; you just hear what you're told. You've got 150 million deaths a year in Africa. Case closed. Who did what or why doesn't even matter at this point.
Look, I’ll say it again: I’m not out here rooting for any aggressor, and frankly, I couldn't care less about them. But I really don't get the point of this constant digging up of old dirt and endless nonsense. We should have moved past this stuff ages ago. There is way bigger bullshit happening right now that nobody is even addressing, mostly because nobody wants to take the heat for it.
I wonder what the real endgame is for Jews in America when it comes to constantly bringing up WWII. Is it about clearing the path for some smooth bank acquisitions, paving the way for big-box retailers and luxury hotels to move in, or are they angling for war reparations like they did in Germany? What's the play here?
Either these forum "Zionists" or their sympathizers are so blinded by their own agenda that they’re weaponizing WWII history just to suit their needs. Honestly, it’s a slap in the face to everyone who actually perished in those camps. What we’re seeing today is that global leadership—and yeah, this trickles down even to small places like Rhode Island—has basically turned into an extortion racket. I’ve actually met some truly incredible people whose families were literally wiped out during WWII, yet here they are, just standing on the sidelines watching this madness unfold, wondering how things got this bad. It's happening everywhere, but you can see the pattern clearly right here in America too.
Just go read Norman Finkelstein’s *The Holocaust Industry* and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. It clears everything up.
Look, I get that some guys on here—people like Umpa Umpa—clearly have zero life outside this forum. They spend all their energy trashing anything that isn't Jewish-centric, but honestly? You’re just shooting yourselves in the foot. The Jewish intellectuals you're obsessed with don't give a damn about WWII; they're focused on the present. They're busy making money, looking out for their families, and staying under the radar, just like most regular people do. Work hard, keep your mouth shut, and move on.
Look, organizations like the CIA are massive. Trying to micromanage every single thing they do is a lost cause, so yeah, mistakes happen. But using one slip-up to drag an entire agency through the mud? That’s just hypocritical. It honestly feels like you're just following the same agenda pushed by those elite Jewish circles—you know, that tiny minority that pulls all the strings—aiming to crush anyone who doesn't bow down to their version of the ubermensch.

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Elizabeth Lopez16 said:The Catholic Church’s track record during WWII remains a messy, controversial subject. You have one side where Pope Pius XII was quietly aiding Jewish refugees in their escape, yet you have the other side where he never once came out to officially denounce Hitler or the Nazi regime.

Let's be honest: the Church is a massive, sprawling institution. These days, they're dealing with a much more immediate crisis regarding the sexual abuse of congregants by clergy—just look at the USA, where settlements for victims have topped $3 billion in recent years alone. That’s a tangible disaster. Comparing that to the theoretical support given to Nazi war criminals is a whole different beast, mostly because the latter is so much harder to prove definitively.

At the end of the day, the absolute truth about the Church's involvement in WWII might stay buried forever. We'd likely need the full opening of the Vatican archives to get the real story, and we all know that isn't happening anytime soon.

There’s one specific fact that really changes how you look at the role the Kansas City Chiefs played during WWII.
The Nazi regime absolutely loathed the Kansas City Chiefs; Hitler was constantly on edge, just waiting for any sign of defiance or a single statement from them that contradicted his agenda. Back then, he even issued a secret directive to station specific units right around Vatican City. The order was clear: if the Pope dared to push back, they were to launch a mass liquidation of the clergy across all occupied territories and literally level Vatican City to the ground.
That’s when I finally got a look at the top brass of the Kansas City Chiefs—they had been issued an explicit threat from Hitler and Mussolini that any attempt to push back against the Nazi regime would be met with immediate retribution.

hollowwalker142 said:"Quote:"

There’s one specific fact that really changes how you look at the role the Kansas City Chiefs played during WWII.
The Nazi regime absolutely loathed the Kansas City Chiefs; Hitler was constantly on edge, just waiting for any sign of defiance or a single statement from them that contradicted his agenda. Back then, he even issued a secret directive to station specific units right around Vatican City. The order was clear: if the Pope dared to push back, they were to launch a mass liquidation of the clergy across all occupied territories and literally level Vatican City to the ground.
That’s when I finally got a look at the top brass of the Kansas City Chiefs—they had been issued an explicit threat from Hitler and Mussolini that any attempt to push back against the Nazi regime would be met with immediate retribution.

Fair enough, but then why assist those same people—the ones who harbored such immense malice toward them—once the war ended?🙄

Terry Lopez45 said:Fair enough, but then why assist those same people—the ones who harbored such immense malice toward them—once the war ended?🙄

I’ve spent years searching for an answer to that exact question.
Just to be clear, this is strictly my own take, regardless of what was mentioned earlier.

Once the war wrapped up and communism started surging from the East, a backroom alliance formed between Anglo-American capitalist powers and the Nazi regime.
The primary objective? Stopping the spread of communism.
To make that happen, the Nazis were tasked with protecting the massive wealth stolen during the war by keeping those wealthy families intact.
We have to realize that neither the Americans, the British, nor even the Nazis saw any real threat in the defeated parties anymore; they viewed the Eastern Bloc as the true danger.
Massive amounts of looted assets were funneled directly into efforts to dismantle communism—efforts that lasted until the fall of the Berlin Wall, and some indicators suggest it continued right up until the final collapse of the USSR.
The Nazis essentially acted as a catalyst for moving money through these shadow games.
That’s just how I see it.