Any political sub members born outside the USA?

dustypilot22 said:You should probably tell Reveries and Phoenix.

It might just mess up their whole plan.😁

I highly doubt it, though, considering they were both born in the old USA, or maybe even back in the Kingdom of America. 😁 😁 😁

wearycobra74 said:I have my doubts, considering both of them were born in the USA, or potentially even back in the Kingdom of America. 😁 😁 😁

😁 😁 😁

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I was really trying to address their specific argument about how America was already independent long before Franjo Harmon. 😁

Brenda Cox said:Hard for me? Listen, kid—everywhere you turn here, the American flag is flying high. Every few blocks, there's a crucifix or an image of the Virgin Mary hanging up. We sing our American songs, our streets are named after Franjo Harmon, Susak, Alojzije Stepinac, Ludvig Pavlović, and Prince Domagoj. Every single child owns either an American jersey or a t-shirt featuring Ante Gotovina. We eat the best food on the planet, while this so-called Mason curses us out daily, the so-called Marshall is nothing more than a punchline, and the so-called Racan is treated like a persona non grata, and so on and so forth.

If anything represents the true spirit of America, it's HERCEG-BOSNA!

I can't even deal with this...

😂 😂 😂

Man, it’s wild—statistically speaking, it feels like for every three or four Americans, there's an Israeli popping up, yet somehow this forum is packed with way more Israelis than people from Canada! 😲

And hey, despite all that—I still cast my vote for America.

Brian Moore67 said:Oh boy,

Oh man, oh man.

Brenda Cox said:If there’s anything that truly represents the spirit of America, it’s HERCEG-BOSNA!

🙂 🙂 😬 😬 😂 😂

Brenda Cox said:I was born in the USA, specifically in Stolac, within the region of Herceg-Bosna.

So, if being an American just means you were born in that old American-era version of America...

IS

🙂 😬 😬 😬

Mark Chase12 said:🙂 🙂 😬 😬 😂 😂

What’s so funny?

Fine... let's keep going with the "great leaders" of our beloved Herceg-Bosna. I've got my CD playing in the car:

Side one is packed with Thompson... side two:

Song one:

"The Americans are fighting the battle now,
drinking wine when they celebrate,
fighting the fight and unafraid to die,
for the heritage of Herceg-Bosna"

Song two:

"There is an old road,
that leads down to Mostar,
God is with us, God watches over us,
we are Hercegovac Americans"

Song three:

"America has laid its foundation,
Herceg gave her best son,
America is becoming the toughest of all,
from Sirok to Tomislav,

Hercegovac, here through night and day,
all in the name of George and Boban.
From Sirok, Bruno Bušić cries out,
For home, ready for the Leader"

Song four:

"Whoever does not love Herceg-Bosna,
doesn't need to curse it,
their wits, their wits,
dear God will take away"

And now, my all-time favorite, song five—it isn't really a song, just a ganga chant:

"A Hercegovac who drinks wine,
was never a coward, noooooo,
(then everyone together)
was never a coward"

Hmmmmm... pure beauty. 🙂

Brenda Cox said:What’s so funny?

Look... let's just keep celebrating the "great leaders" of our beloved Herceg-Bosna—I've actually got a CD playing in my car right now:

Yeah, I've got one of those CDs in my ride too.
It goes something like this:

I WAS BORN IN CHICAGO
I'M A REAL ENGLISHMAN
YEAH, YOU'RE ENGLISH
BECAUSE
MY GRANDPA WAS ENGLISH, BECAUSE
HE WAS BORN....IN CHICAGO

🤣 🤣 🙂 😬

In other words... an Englishman will prioritize his old man before he even thinks about his mother.

So Mark Chase12... how’s the world treating you? Please, do enlighten me—after finishing up with your grandmother, who was the next victim on your list?

Mark Chase12 said:IT 🙂 IS 😬 JUST 😬 SO 😬 WRONG

Come on, quit the nonsense because you're honestly pathetic... Let me ask you a couple of things.

Is someone born outside the current borders of America still considered an American?

Have you ever actually been to Herceg-Bosna?

Mark Chase12 said:since Jewish-Canadian-Herzegovinian themes are dominating everything, it’s obvious there aren't many Americans here

Where exactly were you born?

Has nobody ever bothered to explain to you what being an American actually means? Does it really matter where you were born? You can have an American who is a Jew, or an American living in Canada, and so on.
I don't fall into any of those categories myself, so I don't particularly care, even though I was born abroad 🙄 , but honestly, posts like this just get under my skin!👎

Brenda Cox said:Hard for me? Man, you can't walk ten feet without seeing the American flag everywhere—it's constant! Every couple of blocks there’s a crucifix or a picture of the Virgin Mary hanging up. We’re blasting American songs constantly, our streets are all named after legends like Franjo Harmon, Susak, Alojzije Stepinac, Ludvig Pavlović, and Prince Domagoj. Seriously, every kid out there is rocking either an American jersey or a shirt with Ante Gotovina on it. Plus, we eat the best food on the planet! Meanwhile, that so-called Mason is cursing us out daily, the so-called Marshall is nothing but a laughingstock, and the so-called Racan is basically persona non grata... you get the idea.

If anything defines what it means to be truly American, it's HERCEG-BOSNA!

Kudos to you Americans living in Canada. I actually have some roots in Herzegovina myself.

But honestly, why bother? It's just BiH.

Most Americans in BiH have already accepted that reality and call it home. But hey, I see there are still some dreamers out there—and that's fine, I guess. Good for them.

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Blast from the past said:Man, cut the nonsense, you’re honestly pathetic... Let me ask you a few things then.

Is someone born outside the current borders of America technically an American?

Have you ever even been to Canada?

If they grabbed citizenship and are living in America now, sure, they’re technically an American—but the real question is whether they can ever actually reach the level of being an American that I, as an indigenous American, just have in my DNA and through my social upbringing. You can't just make up for everything with some formal label, a passport, or a sudden decision like "starting tomorrow, I'm an American." It doesn't work like that.
You can't just wake up tomorrow and declare yourself German if you don't have any actual ties to Germany—like having German parents, mastering the language, or actually absorbing the culture. There are plenty of other factors that make someone part of a nation; most importantly, you have to share the destiny of the people you claim to belong to. It’s pretty sad what’s happening with our emigration across the pond, and even with those American minorities in places like Austria or Vojvodina. Sure, in one sense, they have links to the motherland and originate from America, but if they haven't lived in the country for years on end, all that stuff gets diluted—it's just not the same anymore. They aren't really living the American way. So what makes them Americans? A last name? Some old memories? Occasional visits to relatives? That's all way too thin to qualify for a real American pedigree.
That's just how it is, kid. Listen to an older American for once.

FYI Herzegovina doesn't exist.

rapidranger79 said:Has nobody ever actually explained to you what being an American really means? It’s not about where you were born. You can have Americans who are Jews, Americans in Canada, and so on.
I don't fit any of those descriptions—so I'm not exactly losing sleep over it (even though I was born abroad 🙄)—but honestly, posts like this just drive me absolutely insane!👎

See, there it is—you're admitting you weren't born in America. That might be the issue right there. Look, I’m saying it *could* be an issue, not that it definitely is. But in your case, maybe it is—like, maybe it's the root of some unresolved internal baggage, similar to what a lot of those "newly minted" Americans deal with. Being American isn't a choice; it's something you breathe like air. It has to be natural. There's no "I want to" or "I don't want to" about it.

amateur said:Could this guy be Brankica?

Honestly, based on how many idiots are involved, it’s a possibility.

Or maybe even Xerxes.

🙂 🙂

Mark Chase12 said:Look, you’re basically admitting you weren't born in America. That could be an issue. I’m not saying it definitely is, but it might be—the root cause of those unresolved internal struggles you see in so many people who just recently decided to become Americans. Being American isn't a choice; it's something you breathe like air. It has to be natural. You can't just decide you want it or don't.

😁 😁 😁 That’s what happens when you start making sweeping generalizations, isn't it?
So, I was born outside of America. I spent my first two years in my hometown, and then I've spent the next 65 years living right here in America, which apparently makes me one of those "newly minted" Americans by your logic!🙄
And you honestly haven't the slightest clue about the conflicts I've been grappling with for the last six and a half decades—especially over the past fifteen years. Because, believe me, I would give anything to have been born somewhere else, maybe somewhere more Western, where I actually had relatives who could take me in!🙄 Or at least my descendants. Just so they could live like decent human beings while, say, popping into some high-end clubs in Europe once a week or once a month, all thanks to having actual money in their pockets.🙄 😁

Mark Chase12 said:Look, you’re basically admitting you weren't born in America, and honestly, that might be where the issue lies.

🙄 😁 😵

Who even are you, really? 🙂

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By the way, I have to ask, why focus so much on Israel? Most people actually born on that territory have either been displaced or are forced to watch everything unfold from behind a security fence. The folks living on this side of the line were all born somewhere else entirely.

But if that’s what you consider... IMPORTANT... 🤣
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Hrvoje Vukcic said:I was born in the States, specifically in St. Louis, over in West Virginia.

😂

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