9/11

Do you guys speak English?

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...&q=2nd+edition

We don't know. Translate it.

Loose Change? Honestly, only a complete idiot would buy into the nonsense Avery is pushing in that "documentary."

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html

mellowraven22 said:Only a complete idiot would buy that...

Honestly, you’d have to be completely out of your mind to swallow the official narrative being fed to us.

They want us to believe WTC 7 just collapsed because of some random fire? Come on now—we are talking about a massive, 47-story skyscraper here!

The story goes that steel somehow just melts away, and then suddenly, investigators miraculously stumble upon a perfectly preserved passport belonging to one of the "terrorists." It sounds more like a Hollywood script than actual investigative work.

When you add in the endless mountain of shallow lies and convoluted excuses they keep throwing at us, it becomes impossible to ignore.

Out of all the conspiracy theories ever floated, this official version is easily the most egregious and hardest to believe.

Look, this thread is strictly for the "fringe" stuff, not political debates. There are a million conspiracy theories out there floating around, but just because someone's talking doesn't mean any of it is actually true.

The WTC wasn't actually brought down. It was all just filmed on Hollywood sets... just like the moon landing.

What the neighbors are saying about this... This is a text worth reading.

http://www.srpskapolitika.com/Izdvajamo/cudnije/01.html

"However, not all witnesses to this September event were grieving. On September 11, the FBI arrested five former members of the Israeli military after several witnesses spotted them celebrating, high-fiving, and cheering while simultaneously filming the collapse of the World Trade Center from New Jersey, which was located right across the river from them."

"The New York Times then reported:
“The State Department says they were notified by consulates in New York City that the FBI detained these five individuals due to 'suspicious behavior.' The reason for the arrest, as stated, was that these people were caught filming the tragic event and shouting, which was interpreted as 'exclamations of excitement and joy.'"

Why were these Israelis so elated by this horrific massacre unfolding right before their eyes? What kind of dark spirit can possess people who are supposed to be American allies—people who receive millions of dollars in financial and military aid every year—to publicly celebrate while innocent people perish in flames or fall from 110-story skyscrapers (including Americans who are Jews)? Is it possible that these jubilant former members of the Israeli army were somehow connected to this terrorist act? That is precisely what official investigators told reporters from The Bergen Record in New Jersey.

The paper, The Record, reported on September 12, 2001, that the Israelis were first spotted in Liberty State Park, New Jersey, at the time of the first plane impact on the WTC. For those unfamiliar with the NY-NJ area, Liberty State Park is situated directly across the water, offering perhaps the best direct view of the WTC. It would be the ideal vantage point for anyone with prior knowledge of the coming events to watch the entire spectacle unobstructed. In an article titled “Five Arrested as Suspected Organizers,” The Bergen Record reported the following:

"Sources say an alert for increased vigilance known as BOLO, or 'be on the lookout,' was issued at 3:31 AM, stating:

"A vehicle potentially linked to the terrorist attack on New York City. A white Chevrolet 2000 with 'Urban Moving Systems' printed on the back was seen in Liberty State Park during the first plane strike on the WTC.

"Three individuals were seen celebrating next to the van after the initial impact and explosion. The FBI Newark Field Office is requesting that this vehicle be located and all occupants detained for fingerprinting and interrogation for investigative purposes."(6)

Even if the idea of Israeli involvement in organizing this terrorist act seems unbelievable, nonsensical, ridiculous, or paranoid to you right now, the fact remains that certain elements within the Israeli government and the international Zionist movement have long been orchestrating various terrorist attacks only to blame Arabs, thereby securing support from America and the global community. Before we attempt to piece together the full reality of what truly happened on September 11, it is necessary to examine the historical aspects of Israeli and Zionist manipulations of America (and other nations) to achieve their own selfish agendas. Without a fundamental understanding of this history of manipulation, the truth remains elusive. Therefore, I suggest you set aside your preconceptions and step back into the past with me for a moment.

It is patently obvious that Israel was deeply involved in the destruction of those skyscrapers. One cannot overlook the fact that on that particular morning, not a single Jew showed up for work at the WTC. They all received a tip-off from the CIA and took a sick day or vacation on that fateful morning.
Furthermore, the celebration by those five former members of the Israeli military isn't surprising at all. They are simply that kind of people—devious, dirty, and driven solely by self-interest... they would even crucify Jesus, their own man, so what would the destruction of the WTC mean to them if it served their interests and allowed them to smear Islam? And we all know that Islam is a religion of peace and love.

Matthew Wright2 said:Only a complete idiot would buy into the official cover-up.

So, WTC 7 just collapsed because of some wind, right? It was a massive 47-story building.

Supposedly, steel melts, and then geniuses somehow stumble upon a perfectly preserved passport belonging to one of the "terrorists."

And there's just a mountain of shallow lies and inconsistencies on top of that.

Out of all the conspiracy theories out there, this official narrative is easily the worst and most unbelievable.

Hey, Björne:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....i?u=911_morons
😁

Israel is a joke, just like all its neighbors.
Soon enough, we're going to see the 51st state officially join the Union—looking at you, Saudi Arabia.🙂

Michael Sullivan3 said:They’re just built that way—devious, dirty, and purely self-serving... I mean, they crucified Jesus, their own man; so why should it matter to them if they brought down the WTC just to push their own agenda and smear Islam? And we all know that Islam is a religion of peace and love.

Are they really all—every single one of them—devious, dirty, and out for themselves?

And are they all responsible for that crucifixion, from then until today?

Were all the Germans who voted for the Nazi Party back in 1933 suddenly fair, honest, pure, and looking out for everyone else's interests?

It’s easy to just generalize everything and ignore the nuance... It’s much simpler to just slaughter everyone indiscriminately, from a one-month-old infant to a 103-year-old man...

Nicole Sanders6 said:Hey there, Bjorne:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....i?u=911_morons
😁

Wow! 😲

I’m actually such a gullible person, so thanks to that absolutely brilliant website of yours, you’ve completely managed to convince me that the official conspiracy theory is actually true!

I mean, clearly, WTC 7 just collapsed because of a little gust of wind. How could I have ever been so foolish as to doubt that? 🤣

Bjorne, this whole thing is just a farce.

Matthew Wright2 said:Wow! 😲

I mean, I'm such a gullible person—clearly, since that idiotic website totally convinced me of the official conspiracy theory.

So, yeah, WTC 7 just collapsed because of some random breeze. How could I have possibly been so wrong? 🤣

This whole thing is a joke.

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

Keep snitching if it makes you feel better...

Casey Wright4 said:http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

Go ahead and keep chirping if you want...

Look, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I’m pretty much immune to propaganda.

I’m just one of those people who doesn't have the habit of blindly swallowing whatever is fed to them—whether it’s coming from so-called conspiracy theorists or the official government spin doctors trying to muddy the waters.

Think about it this way: if I had lived back during the era of the Nazi Party, I wouldn't have fallen for their twisted lies about the Third Reich, nor would I have believed their nonsense claims that Poland attacked Germany or that Jews were the root of all evil. Just as clearly, I don't buy into the narratives pushed by American neo-Nazis and their deceptive tactics either. Look, I'm just not a believer. You and people like you are perfectly free to believe whatever hollow fairy tales you want, but that's your burden to carry—it's just your own naive little art form.

Greven said:I’m sorry, but I am extremely resistant to propaganda.
I’m not the type of person who blindly swallows whatever is fed to them, whether it comes from so-called conspiracy theorists or official government spin and deception.
If I had lived during the era of the Third Reich, I wouldn't have fallen for the lies regarding the Reichstag, nor would I have believed the fabrications about Poland attacking Germany or that Jewish people were the root of all evil. In the same vein, I don't buy into the nonsense peddled by American Nazis either. Look, I’m not a believer. You and people like you are perfectly free to believe whatever fairy tales you want. That's your issue—it's your own brand of naive artistry.

But you certainly fell for those Lenin tactics.

Greven said:Sorry, but I’m pretty damn resistant to propaganda.

I’m just not the type to blindly swallow whatever anyone feeds me—whether it’s some fringe conspiracy nut or the official government spin machine.

If I’d been around during the Nazi era, I wouldn’t have bought the Reichstag lies, the nonsense about Poland starting it, or the whole "Jews are the root of all evil" garbage. And for the same reason, I don't buy the US neo-Nazis and their particular brand of deception either. Look, I'm not a believer. You and people like you are free to believe whatever fairy tales you want—that’s your problem, really. It’s your own naive little art form.

I get it—to you and everyone else in your circle, any clear debunking of your theories is just labeled as "propaganda." You probably can't bring yourselves to admit when you're wrong. There's nothing rational about how you process things; it's like your brains are hardwired to go totally irrational the second someone mentions Bush or the USA. Honestly, trying to have a logical, argued discussion with people like that is just a waste of breath.

I totally get it—to you and everyone else in your circle, any straightforward denial of your little conspiracy theories or whatever you call them feels like nothing more than blatant propaganda.

Look, dummy, I already told you quite clearly that I don't just take anyone's word for granted by default; that goes for those self-proclaimed "truth-seekers" just as much as it does for the establishment. I don't have some grand agenda or set of theories, so you can take that "obvious denial" of yours and shove it. Those "clear denials" you keep harping on might fly with gullible folks who think exactly like you do, but they don't work on me.

So, what, you guys just aren't going to admit when you're wrong?

Of course I’d admit I was wrong if I actually were! My only goal here is to find the actual truth, and it's becoming painfully obvious that the official narrative being fed to us has absolutely nothing to do with reality.

The basis for your reasoning isn't even within the realm of rationality.

You're really stretching the definition of "rationality" there. It seems to me that to you, "rational" only means whatever the people in charge dictate. I know your type well; it's a specific crowd of people who seem to lack any capacity for critical thought whatsoever. To you, the "truths" handed down by authority figures are treated like sacred dogmas—mere commands issued to small minds. You and people like you are basically zombies, "thinking" entirely through someone else's brain. Trying to have a real discussion with people like this is like trying to roll a boulder up a hill forever; it's a total Sisyphus task.

I’ve been chewing on a couple of things lately; I mean, how can people seriously claim that this whole operation was executed so perfectly that it would never have leaked online? It just doesn't add up, does it? And then, on the flip side, you have to wonder—is some random guy in the Midwest really going to pilot a Boeing with enough surgical precision to hit a specific building dead-on?