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Terry Bennett3 Terry Bennett3 NewcomerOP
2 messages
joined Jul 2009
#1 ·
So, I’m asking the Admin to weigh in on this problematic post I reported. After I flagged it, the moderators warned me about my own reply—which was only written because my initial report was ignored—and then they slapped me with a trolling penalty.

The post in question:
In this thread:

I reached out to the moderator, Daniel Ward87, and he basically told me there wasn't anything wrong with steeleagle70's post.

I disagree. First off, he put words in my mouth that I never even said.
Second, he started whining about "fascist thinking" and some vague "fascist ideologies." None of that has anything to do with the topic or what I actually wrote. The fact that the politics mod refused to act on the report is exactly what triggered my response, which somehow became the problem.

So, here's what I need answered: Is steeleagle70's post actually trolling, and is Daniel Ward87 actually doing his job impartially according to Reddit rules?

Thanks.
Daniel Ward87 Daniel Ward87 Active Member
195 messages
joined May 2023
#2 ·
If I remember right, my take was more along the lines of "What exactly makes his post trolling?", rather than saying there wasn't anything wrong with it at all.
Terry Bennett3 Terry Bennett3 NewcomerOP
2 messages
joined Jul 2009
#3 ·
Daniel Ward87 said:If I remember right, my answer was just, "What exactly makes his post trolling?" I wasn't saying there wasn't anything wrong with it.

Exactly. That was your response. I pointed out exactly what I found problematic, and when I asked if you even saw an issue with it—or if I should just go find a second opinion here on Reddit—this was all you had to say:
Search.👍

It’s pretty obvious you don't see anything wrong with that post. Honestly, your silence says more than any words ever could.

If I need to, I can just dump our entire email chain right here.
Daniel Ward87 Daniel Ward87 Active Member
195 messages
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#4 ·
You've got it wrong. I never said there wasn't anything controversial about it; I just meant you should take it up with hollowtrucker77. I'm not the only moderator on the Politics subreddit, and I don't jump on every single reported post. Besides, that's not to say I'm always right. When I'm on the fence about how to handle something, I let another mod step in and take the lead. If none of us have acted on it, feel free to flag the post for the Admins so they can weigh in.
Terry Bennett3 Terry Bennett3 NewcomerOP
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joined Jul 2009
#5 ·
Daniel Ward87 said:You're wrong. I didn't say there wasn't anything controversial about it; I just said you should talk to hollowtrucker77. I'm not the only moderator on the Politics subreddit, and I don't jump on every single reported post. Besides, that doesn't mean I'm always right. When I'm unsure, I let another moderator handle it. If none of us reacted, feel free to report the post to the Admins so they can take a look.

So you weren't sure about that post🤣 but you were sure about mine? Speaking of my post and your reaction—it took over four hours from when I posted until you finally acted. Since you didn't wonder why the other mods stayed silent then, I guess you're just using that excuse now regarding steeleagle70's post.🤷

Just my opinion here, not a fact.

I don't post much, but I read a lot. It seems like people use "steeleagle70" as a label for trolling lately. What I've noticed, unfortunately, is that it goes unpunished. This whole thing felt like a type of bullying to me. I flagged a problematic post, my own post got deleted instantly, and then I got sanctioned just for responding to the original issue. I don't know. Like I said, just my opinion, but it feels like I was basically told "leave steeleagle70 alone, or you'll get another strike."

I get the feeling plenty of other users have felt this way regarding "steeleagle70" too. Maybe I'm just seeing things. Maybe. But who knows?
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
681 messages
joined Nov 2007
#6 ·
I’m looking at steeleagle70's post and honestly, I don't see a single thing about cardboard packaging, so I can't exactly fault the post he was replying to for implying anyone was being slow-witted here
Terry Bennett3 Terry Bennett3 NewcomerOP
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#7 ·
hollowtrucker77 said:I don't see anything about cardboard packaging in steeleagle70's post. Can't really comment on the thread he was replying to, though—the one where they were basically calling everyone idiots.

What's even stupid about this post?
Nobody cares about this anymore. Why even bother talking about it?

You actually got something constructive to say here, or are you just planning to derail the whole thing again with more mindless questions and trolling?

I dropped a link that says exactly what I said. If you can't wrap your head around it, that’s on you. Not my problem.

Calling it "paranoid" to suggest that Mexicans in America might pick up weapons again to push some expansionist agenda? Sure. Only problem is, hasn't that already happened, and not all that long ago? I'm not talking about hate here—just laying out the facts and seeing where they lead. For anyone who actually pays attention to history, it’s not exactly a stretch.

And what does that have to do with the topic or my post?

Of course I get what you're saying. The basics of writing like this are pretty simple:

- It’s always the same story. You’re either a hardline nationalist or you're just swallowing whatever big-picture expansionist ideology they're pushing this week. Is there even a middle ground anymore?
Every single move made there was political or economic, all part of the same playbook. Wasn't it all just a setup to fuel that aggression and build a Greater Mexico?
So every single move gets attacked, condemned, or banned. Is that just how it works now?


Let’s be real, if the Canadians decided to set up something like a Canadian Bank, nobody would start some massive political thread about it or claim they were trying to redraw borders through aggression. Why even bother?

So, this whole attack... is it just targeting Mexicans? Is that really all this is about?

And just like that, we’re sliding right back into that whole fascist mindset centered on nationality. Is anyone actually surprised?

If setting up a bank is considered a step toward redrawing borders, then starting a small business, a law firm, or any other LLC is exactly the same thing. Right?

And there you have it. Those are the core pillars of fascist ideology. Honestly? It’s enough to make you sick.
steeleagle70 steeleagle70 Active Member
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joined May 2012
#8 ·
Terry Bennett3 said:I don't post all that much, but man, do I lurk. I'm always reading and keeping up with the threads. Honestly? It feels like half the time people just use steeleagle70 as a punching bag for their trolling.

The real issue with how we're talking to each other lately? It’s that things have been veering way too far into ad hominem territory. Honestly, both you and a few others have been getting a bit too personal with the attacks. Just look at a couple of these examples—I actually had to delete a handful of them already.

Wait, are you actually a Mexican?

And then there's your posts—none of them were officially flagged, by the way. I didn't bother reporting any of them because, honestly, it felt like everyone was just caught up in the heat of the moment. Even though if you look at the definitions, it’s definitely some ad hominem trolling and even a little bit of straight-up insulting, you know? But whatever.

Your posts make it pretty obvious you're just one person. Just plain old politically illiterate? Or maybe just straight-up ignorant?I can't even begin to explain how much I love this. Seriously. Just thinking about it makes me grin. Who else feels this way? It's just one of those things that hits different, you know? Everything about it is just... perfect. Honestly, why does anyone ever complain? Life's too short for that kind of negativity. Anyway, just wanted to share that little thought. Catch you guys later!

You got anything constructive to add to this thread, or what? Ugh, here we go again. Someone’s back at it with the mindless questions just to derail the whole thread. Honestly, is it even worth it? Just pure trolling at this point.?

Honestly, that whole theory? It’s just pure, unadulterated stupidity. Total nonsense. It’s just typical for people who try to generalize everything to mask the fact that they aren't exactly playing with a full deck, you know? Since you're the only one who even brought this up in the thread, it's pretty obvious you just can't wrap your head around what I actually said..

Honestly, there’s only one question I can ask the geniuses behind this nonsense. Who on earth could actually put a sentence like that together?

You’d totally get it if you actually knew what was going on. If you're being blocked from doing that, just ask someone to translate it for you. Easy, right?.


You just don't get it. Seriously, you haven't got the bandwidth for something like this..


So after everything that’s gone down, you’re still calling me a troll? Seriously? You can go ahead and scroll through my entire history on Reddit if you want, but you won't find a single post where I ever directed that kind of attitude toward you. Not one.

Honestly, from what I’ve seen, nothing gets punished—people just slide by. This whole thing felt like straight-up bullying to me. I flagged a problematic post, my own post got nuked instantly, and then when I tried to reply to the guy, I got sanctioned. I don't know, just my take, but it felt like they were basically telling me, "Leave steeleagle70 alone, or you're getting another strike."
If I had really pushed for those posts directed at me to be protected, I would've racked up way more points than I did with this one post—which I still stand by, since it was mostly based on the discussion we were having at the time.

As for fascist ideologies, you literally asked me twice to list them out. That was a direct answer to your questions! I have no clue why you're claiming that bringing up Japan or Italy is trolling you when you were the one asking for answers twice.

Sorry, maybe just one more question; Define the term "fascist ideology."

And then there's the post after that.

But yeah, can you actually list those "fascist ideologies"?


I’m trying my hardest—purely for personal reasons—to avoid trolling or throwing out ad hominem attacks. You won't find much of that in my 2,500 posts.

In all those 2,500 posts, I’ve only caught one single troll strike, and that came directly from the Admin, and honestly? He was totally justified. I'm sure I get a pass every now and then, just like everyone else.

But then you say I write little and read a lot, labeling me as the main troll here... man, you're really going full ad hominem on me again.

Talk about favoritism! Maybe if half my strikes weren't coming straight from the Admin, things would look different.

To wrap it up, I don't think my post was even borderline trolling. But hey, maybe I'm wrong. It clearly hit the edge since the mod wasn't sure what to do and had to ask the Admin for help. If the ruling is a strike, fine, whatever.

But let's be real, you've been given way more leeway on this same thread despite posting tons of pure ad hominem trolls aimed at me. So I don't see why you're complaining about being bullied by anyone. If they were being strict, I'd be sitting at +35 strikes right now, but buddy, you'd be completely grayed out.
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
681 messages
joined Nov 2007
#9 ·
Honestly, this thread has become a complete mess, just a constant stream of people bickering instead of actually sticking to the topic at hand.
It’s honestly pretty pathetic when you have to sit grown adults down and explain how to hold a civilized, reasoned conversation without losing their minds.

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