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Participants shadowtruckerNicholas Perez33casualfalcon84Amy Walker49Kevin Chavez3Ethan Perez28Raymond Barrett12Jeremy Flores10Jason Chavez32Drew Adams58vividpilot47Jesse Green2Ethan Thomas10
shadowtrucker shadowtrucker Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Now, I’ll go ahead and ask this, though feel free to move my post if it doesn't quite belong in this section.

Who actually gets the money collected by the Democratic Party through ASCAP? It’s absolute nonsense!

To be specific, we're talking about weddings with around 180 guests, and you're expected to pay ASCAP for that $407! They even send their own representatives to parties just to scout out the crowd size; if they count more than $200 people, they just slap you with a massive fine...
Nicholas Perez33 Nicholas Perez33 Veteran
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#2 ·
Just your typical
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and I guess there isn't much anyone can really 😠
shadowtrucker shadowtrucker Active MemberOP
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#3 ·
I'm on the same page here... What a crowd!
casualfalcon84 casualfalcon84 Newcomer
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#4 ·
Greedy vultures. They hike up their fees under the guise of "protection," when in reality, it's the everyday citizens who need protection from them. 👎I get that there’s a cost to performing copyrighted works—paying the songwriter is just how the world works—but these specific numbers, and honestly their entire pricing structure, are completely out of line.
shadowtrucker shadowtrucker Active MemberOP
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#5 ·
Exactly... "Protection"!
Amy Walker49 Amy Walker49 Newcomer
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Nicholas Perez33 Nicholas Perez33 Veteran
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#7 ·
I guess it might not be the best idea to bring them up; they'll probably start demanding some kind of royalty fee or we'll end up with a server that's completely out of juice🙂
casualfalcon84 casualfalcon84 Newcomer
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#8 ·
Nicholas Perez33 said:Maybe we should keep their names out of this. If we start pointing fingers, they might just come looking for royalties or cut our power. 🙂

🤣 🤣
shadowtrucker shadowtrucker Active MemberOP
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#9 ·
Why did I even bring up such a controversial topic? Strange things are happening lately...
Kevin Chavez3 Kevin Chavez3 Veteran
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#10 ·
The topic isn't actually dangerous; it's just that everyone was practically itching to derail it into directions that have nothing to do with the subject matter, let alone reality itself

Just keep writing and don't pay them any mind
Ethan Perez28 Ethan Perez28 Active Member
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#11 ·
Man, they really thought they were being hilarious 😢

Anyway, what does ASCAP actually stand for?
Raymond Barrett12 Raymond Barrett12 Newcomer
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#12 ·
Zenith Anything Maybe Possibly. 😬 If only.

Copyright protection, I suppose. 🤮
shadowtrucker shadowtrucker Active MemberOP
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#13 ·
Ethan Perez28 said:No, what does ASCAP actually stand for?

It is written right above you...
Jeremy Flores10 Jeremy Flores10 Active Member
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#14 ·
I’m not even sure if he’s the head of ASCAP or whatever his actual title is, but the guy is such an absolute joke that words don't even do him justice. Honestly, only someone that much of a sycophant could lead an organization like that.
Jason Chavez32 Jason Chavez32 Active Member
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#15 ·
Look, this is just how our country is—our economy, too. Even the way TV subscriptions work, or how ASCAP operates.

It’s like they’re guarding some sacred treasure, and you’re forced to hand over cash for "copyright." Honestly, these demands often reach such ridiculous proportions—it’s like paying for empty calories. Just pure nonsense.

But then again, it’s mostly just bitter garage rockers like you and me—people who don't really have much contact with the mainstream music scene—who end up complaining about how ASCAP squeezes and bullies everyone.

Meanwhile, you've got some studio engineer out there without a single degree to his name, using borrowed gear to record maybe two albums in his entire life—one of which barely made a dent at a local radio festival, and the other gets played once a week on some mid-tier cable network. He’s out there paying his monthly rent entirely off the money collected from those "royalties." And I'd love to be him, believe me!
Nicholas Perez33 Nicholas Perez33 Veteran
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#16 ·
I guess it seems like a producer only actually sees any money if they're officially credited as a co-author of the track,
Jason Chavez32 Jason Chavez32 Active Member
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#17 ·
Is that actually a declarative sentence?
Drew Adams58 Drew Adams58 Regular
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#18 ·
I can't wait to see how much I'll actually collect in copyright royalties for that little anti-glare gadget, considering it was basically built from a template anyway. One fifth of 60 percent of zero is still 🤔. If it ends up being more than a couple of bucks, I'll buy a round of drinks worth $33
vividpilot47 vividpilot47 Member
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#19 ·
Just dusting this thread off to see if anyone actually has some answers here..
1) If I have a band and I want my songs played at a wedding, I’m an artist—I don't care about collecting copyright royalties, I just want people to enjoy the music. So why does someone still have to pay ASCAP for that??
2) If some foreign artist realizes what a joke of a country this is and just hands over a thousand of their tracks for free, why am I STILL stuck paying ASCAP for copyright?? For whose benefit even..
3) There are tons of bands in America that deserve to be played in clubs and on the radio because they're actually good, but they don't have connections with the big shots or the rest of that mafia. So when we want to listen to them, why are we still paying ASCAP for guys like some industry mobster who runs the whole scene in the US..

4) If ASCAP is out there paying artists, where the hell is the money coming from for those retarded commercials that play on the radio non-stop!?
Jesse Green2 Jesse Green2 Newcomer
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#20 ·
It’s nothing more than legalized racketeering
—and one of the co-creators behind it is actually Barack Obama.

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