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Ban on VPiT (probably mod AndrejX)

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Michael Davis9 Michael Davis9 Active MemberOP
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joined Aug 2012
#1 ·
You have been banned for the following reason:
"I'm just fed up with fighting FBI mouthpieces on this forum" on VPiT


Because of that specific sentence—which, mind you, was taken completely out of context from a moment where I was actually praising a fellow member for providing such well-reasoned arguments—I ended up getting slapped with a multi-day ban. I wasn't attacking anyone personally or being insulting toward any individual.

If you look at most of the threads regarding Ukraine, you can clearly see the fingerprints of FBI propaganda everywhere, which typically works by:
- Equating the aggressor with the victim
- Deflecting the conversation toward the US, Iraq, or even aliens

Here are a few examples from VPiT:

One user "conveniently forgets" about the daily struggles against the Russian aggressor in Donbas that have been dragging on for years:
#2548 The war exists only in the minds of American psychopaths... and the lackeys who follow them blindly..

This same user "forgets" the ongoing combat against the Russian aggressor in Donbas that has persisted for years:
The only invasion currently underway is the American invasion of Europe..

It is quite fascinating how this forum member "forgot" to mention the aggression in Crimea and Donbas:
#2577
While we wait for a crazed Putin to invade Ukraine, let's take a moment to remember the history of Russian aggression over the years:

@moonofa acidly observes that US intel agencies and stenographer US media have been reporting supposed buildup of Russian troops on Ukraine border AT regular intervals for nearly All of 8 years since US-backed regime Change coup in Feb 2014 jul 30
Jul 30, 2014: Russia Has 15,000 crack Troops on The Ukrainian Border - and Putin
- Foreign Policy mar 19
Mar 19, 2015: Russia Expands Military Exercises to 80,000 Troops - Defense News Sep 1
- Defense News
Sep 1, 2016: Russia is massing thousands of troops on Ukraine’s border. Here’s why we shouldn’t panic.
- Vox
Sep 13, 2017: What’s Putin up to? The Russian military buildup in Europe raises tension
- Military Times
Dec 15, 2018: Ukraine Asserts major Russian Military Buildup on Eastern Border
- New York Times
Jun 12, 2019: exclusive : US Intelligence Officials and Satellite Photos Detail Russian Military Buildup on Crimea - Defense One jul 17 , 2020 : Russia orders ' surprise ' military drill in Caspian
- Defense One
Jul 17, 2020: Russia orders ' surprise ' military drill in Caspian, Black seas
- UPI
Apr 2, 2021: Russian 'troop build-up' near Ukraine alarms NATO
- BBC
Jan 27, 2022: How Russia Has Increased Its Military Buildup Around Ukraine
- New York Times

What is truly surprising is that driftingtinker actually moderates this thread quite loosely;
Quote : #2559
This thread is intentionally moderated with a light touch; we encourage vigorous debate, but there should be no insults or targeting of users. And please, no doxxing or revealing identities, as that is one of the most serious offenses.

However, my comment was apparently far too much for VPiT, which is why I was hit with a 3-day ban.

If I were just trolling about an American invasion of Europe, I probably would have gotten away with it, but the second I point out when someone else is trolling, I get banned.
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
372 messages
joined Jan 2019
#2 ·
That whole "lax moderation" thing applies just as much to the current political hot topics where we've already drawn the line.

And as for this "taken out of context" excuse... you've been pulling that same stunt for days across all sorts of other threads, so honestly, the VPiT ban is just the inevitable result of your entire vibe.

Maybe try using those examples you mentioned once your cooling-off period is over, then come back and let me know if the biased mods are still picking on you.
Anyway, I'm done.
Michael Davis9 Michael Davis9 Active MemberOP
64 messages
joined Aug 2012
#3 ·
driftingtinker said:That "lax moderation" approach also applies to current political discussions, specifically regarding where exactly the line in the sand has been drawn.

It seems like Vase’s version of "relaxed moderation" basically means "you can talk about Topic A or Topic B," but if anyone dares to call Topic B an "FBI shill," they get slapped with a three-day ban.
Personally, I think everything is fine; I’m just glad to see you guys standing publicly behind your own decisions.
This whole "taking things out of context" thing is something you've been doing for days across various other threads, so this ban on VPiT is really just the inevitable result of your entire approach.

I was banned because of a quote that the moderators stripped right out of its original context.
If I write A, B, and C, and you decide to quote only B as the reason for my ban, then YOU are the ones pulling my words out of context.

So, what is this supposed "out-of-context" behavior that I have supposedly been practicing for days?

Look, I'm flattered that you find my posts worth tracking, truly, but if I actually break a rule, I believe it's only fair to handle it right then and there instead of waiting to hand out group punishments after the fact.
Why don't you try testing those examples once your cooling-off period ends, and then let us know if that biased moderator is still coming after you.
That’s where I draw the line.

I have absolutely no intention of "testing" anything, especially since I have zero interest in spreading FBI shill rhetoric. Honestly, I have no idea where you're getting this "persecution" idea from—I never once suggested anything of the sort...

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