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Biblical Violence

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Participants Adam Harris7boldscout72David Sullivan4Harold Wright54placidrangerBenjamin Phillips14Steven Barrett28Raymond Bailey6darkheron6Joshua Smith5urbannomad30Kevin Chavez3analogharbor442Charles Hill2Maria Campbell67Kyle Jackson54coppermarlin81
Adam Harris7 Adam Harris7 MemberOP
21 messages
joined Mar 2011
#1 ·
There are moments when life becomes difficult—not so crushing that one contemplates suicide or self-harm, but just heavy enough that a friend might be required to pull you through.

I recall once traveling by bus, an experience some of you might remember: the sun hung high and merciless in the sky, impossible to block out even with a curtain; the heat was as relentless and suffocating as a Wagnerian opera, while my neighbor sat listening to Red Hot Chili Peppers on his earbuds, leaving me alone with my thoughts. If you have ever experienced such a profound sense of existential oppression and internal nausea, you would understand my digestive tract, which was traveling somewhere above the Mississippi River, torn between pure agony and total resignation; I felt too sick to actually vomit.
The bus jolted violently through every turn, passengers leaned precariously from side to side, and I waited for the nausea to ascend to my brain, fearing my head would either split open like a ripe fig or shrivel up like a dried date. Since neither outcome served my interests, I used my final reserves of strength to select a tape on my iPod, Biblical Violence, and pressed play.
Žuča & friends stood stunned. I had been saved.

I can offer no better explanation for this sentiment than the following critique:

It begins with a jab of bass, drums, and vitriolic hollering. Sound quality ensures the song is little more than a muddy husk. From these unsavory first steps, America’s Biblical Violence soon get downright malevolent. The next piece is rasping and demonic vocal incantations buried under monolithic and impenetrable keyboards. Then comes ramshackle darkwave with a coating of ear and face rending sonics. The tape peaks with rippling pools of bile and depth charged pulse implosions and concludes with a couple breakneck punk clatterings to take it home. For a double A side with only about twelve minutes of music, “Bib Vio” has an impressive amount of variety and the array of sounds all share a pitted, rancid, homicidal core. 8/10

This is my friend and the musician behind this work, Lovro Truliy Lefe:

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He released the tape under the label Skrot up.

Both longtime and new fans can download the tape here --> HERE
I ask that you please stay seriously on topic; our subject is Biblical Violence, as a band, an artist, and a musical beacon, as well as those situations (like the one described above) where Biblical Violence helped you, what the music reminds you of, and how you relate to it. Furthermore, let us discuss the standing of Biblical Violence within the global music landscape and its connection to bands of similar characteristics, starting from those perceived as mere noise.

By a stroke of divine luck, since the author of this post is also a member of this forum, this thread may serve as—as a former moderator once put it—a platform for dialogue and a privileged glimpse into the inner world of the artist.

ALSO, I REQUEST THAT MODERATORS DO NOT REMOVE THE CAPS LOCK FROM THE TITLE, AS THIS IS NOT AN OUTBURST BUT RATHER THE AUTHOR'S AESTHETIC CHOICE. THANK YOU!

I believe everything is clear, and I have high expectations for this discussion.
CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS ONLY, PLEASE!
boldscout72 boldscout72 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Apr 2007
#2 ·
Alright, let me start by copying over some details regarding the technical side of things:

Biblical Violence—a gentleman, an artist, and quite the adventurer says:
The very first track actually came out of the final rehearsal of my old band, and I ended up uploading it online under the name Biblical Violence. Shortly after that, an American indie label (Skrot up) reached out to me with an offer to release a cassette on their label. Since they were so enthusiastic about it, they asked if I could record more material, which eventually led to the creation of the full album-cassette titled Bib Vio. To be perfectly honest, if it hadn't been for that specific offer, I’m not entirely certain I would have continued down this path... perhaps in a different capacity, but it is quite difficult to pursue this kind of music without some sort of feedback loop. As for the technical aspects, I produced the entire album myself on a home computer—running my guitar through a bass amp and playing around with various rhythms on this ancient synthesizer I had lying around.

And now, for my own two cents. Generally speaking, I find Biblical Violence to be somewhat utterly dreadful. Well—perhaps not *entirely* dreadful, because while the music is far too invasive for my personal tastes, I must admit I have a certain respect for the spirit and the sheer laziness involved... which, if he weren't being quite so lazy, might have resulted in a near-perfect artist. I rather enjoy the nonchalance and the playfulness of it all. I appreciate those attempts at spontaneity that unfold in real-time. I find myself drawn to the refusal to meet demands for continuity or cohesion... the way it trivializes traditional form. Long live Biblical Violence, and long live irreverent music! 🙂
Adam Harris7 Adam Harris7 MemberOP
21 messages
joined Mar 2011
#3 ·
A truly stellar contribution!

On a more personal note, I should mention that a friend once told me they spotted Trulija out on the street one afternoon:
''HE WAS WEARING THE ABSOLUTE WORST COAT IN EXISTENCE''
''HE LOOKED LIKE HE WAS JOINING THERION''

A question for the author: does this imply a musical pivot toward heavy metal is on the horizon?

Furthermore, the mention of that coat brought my mind back to my chemical romance

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Some describe them as "vampire and zombie rock." Should I remind you of the fact that a certain prominent American figure is a massive fan of zombie cinema? It becomes quite clear how deeply Biblical Violence is woven into the rest of the musical universe, even when such connections aren't immediately obvious.

To be perfectly honest, I find My Chemical Romance quite distasteful; I would love nothing more than to stomp on their heads. I am glad to have this platform to express that sentiment and contrast it with the reality that I would never dream of doing such a thing to Lo>>22>>ri, not even if he were to beg me.

Please, continue with this work! 👍
David Sullivan4 David Sullivan4 Regular
663 messages
joined Jul 2005
#4 ·
You've completely lost it.
Adam Harris7 Adam Harris7 MemberOP
21 messages
joined Mar 2011
#5 ·
I would prefer if this were merely an expression of envy because people with disabilities lack their own dedicated discussion thread!
Harold Wright54 Harold Wright54 Regular
319 messages
joined Dec 2005
#6 ·
There’s still plenty of time for him to fully find his artistic footing. Honestly, what does being a "complete artist" even mean given his current circumstances and the way he blends different styles? If he weren't exactly who he is, Biblicala wouldn't even exist.

And yeah, I'm not crazy enough to listen to Biblical Violence on repeat. But the guy always manages to rattle me with that extreme nihilism of his. Maybe he was just having fun, which is why it sounds a bit unserious at times, but 'Biblical Violence' is a totally cool first official release. It's the kind of thing you'd keep on a shelf next to some high school soccer trophies. More than that—it's a manifesto from a talented kid who just listened to too much music.

I actually recently wrote a short piece about the Biblical Violence release

He probably isn't going to record anything else for a while. 😬Maybe one day, when he's tired of the whole scene, he'll pick up an acoustic guitar and put out a country album.
boldscout72 boldscout72 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Apr 2007
#7 ·
Brenda Scott14 said:I honestly don't even know what constitutes a "complete" artist anymore...

Fair enough—perhaps I was being a bit hyperbolic there—but I truly felt that, given the sheer scope of his work, he might eventually find a way to be more... well, concrete. 😁

Harold Wright54 said:maybe one day, just totally exhausted by it all, he’ll pick up an acoustic guitar and record a folk album

Hmm, I'm not quite sure that's the direction it would take... It feels more likely that if we were looking for a melodic vibe, we'd land somewhere in the realm of Silver Jews or Starlite Walker. Now *that* would be brilliant. 😍
placidranger placidranger Regular
339 messages
joined Sep 2004
#8 ·
Downloaded it. Listening for the third time now. It’s interesting—different, too—and I actually dig it most of the time. Pretty dark stuff.

But I don't get it. What's the actual point of this conversation?
Benjamin Phillips14 Benjamin Phillips14 Member
33 messages
joined Jun 2007
#9 ·
I think Lawrence is honestly such a good-looking guy. He finally churned out some tracks after spending months just rotting away, staring at his bedroom ceiling while the old folks were out working, and somehow stumbled upon a decent mic plugged into some ancient PC. Listening to this stuff feels like a fever dream of all those wasted moments drowned in cheap bourbon, getting into pointless bar fights in the fog, flipping a muscle car back in the eighties, or trying—and failing—to pick up some bored girls who only showed up to dance. It’s basically the sonic equivalent of an upset stomach after mixing bad takeout with too many shots. Anyway, I'm digging it.
Adam Harris7 Adam Harris7 MemberOP
21 messages
joined Mar 2011
#10 ·
placidranger said:I finally stripped it down. I am currently on my third listen. It is interesting, quite distinct, and I find myself enjoying it most of the time. It carries a rather dark undertone.

It is heartening to hear that you enjoy it most of the time.🙂
Personally, I would argue that "Ahh" is actually the most accessible, easy-listening track in the entire collection.

placidranger said:But I fail to grasp it. What exactly is the point being made here?

The subject is biblical violence!
And its profound connection to various global phenomena, our own lives, and the sheer complexity of the human experience.
In that spirit, I shall call upon Lawrence to elaborate further on this matter:

Benjamin Phillips14 said:The mundane bar fights in the fog, an eighties car rollover, and those failed attempts at flirting with uninspired, disinterested youths who only showed up to dance.
Steven Barrett28 Steven Barrett28 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Nov 2010
#11 ·
I guess that guy is just way overhyped. He kind of reminds me of Ida Prester, who seems to be all over the news every single day for absolutely no reason at all.
Benjamin Phillips14 Benjamin Phillips14 Member
33 messages
joined Jun 2007
#12 ·
Steven Barrett28 said:honestly, that guy is way overrated. he reminds me of some tabloid fixture who’s in the news every single day for absolutely no damn reason at all.

I think Ida is great and she’s got such a killer way with words
whether you're staying stateside or heading abroad

Lana
it's a long story
an interesting youth
vivid imagination
😲
Raymond Bailey6 Raymond Bailey6 Active Member
88 messages
joined Nov 2008
#13 ·
Interesting, folks. Really interesting.
placidranger placidranger Regular
339 messages
joined Sep 2004
#14 ·
Raymond Bailey6 said:Interesting stuff, guys. Really interesting.

So, is this our guy? 😁

Come on, give us the backstory—how did this all start? When did you first pick up a beat?
darkheron6 darkheron6 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Apr 2011
#15 ·
I’m actually really digging this blue vibe. You can genuinely hear the progress being made on the track. Honestly though, I think using "sssan" was a bit of a misstep for the opener; it’s just too intense right out of the gate. It catches you off guard when you aren't ready, which is a shame because the "ppplava" track is an absolute gem—you just have to work your way up to it.

All in all, speaking as a total elitist and hipster jerk, I’d say this is pure avant-garde territory. Even Genesis P. Orridge wouldn't be embarrassed by this, back before they transitioned!

Also, I can't help but think the whole album would sound even better if it were re-recorded at Dolby.

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Oh, and I noticed Last.fm has Trobecov's bread ovens listed under similar artists. I honestly thought nobody was still listening to that stuff lol.
Raymond Bailey6 Raymond Bailey6 Active Member
88 messages
joined Nov 2008
#16 ·
Man, the music mods already slapped me with a RED CARD. <- this isn't even trolling, seriously.

Anyway, I first started composing back in '96. I learned how to play "The Star-Spangled Banner" on my trusty Casio SA20. You can really hear the full potential of that Casio SA20 in the track UDAAAV; I used it as a rhythm machine for most of my other stuff too. It’s broken right now, though, so that's why I haven't been recording anything new.

-> image <- LEGEND.

Just lurking on Last.fm, I noticed people seem to love the song "Blue"! I don't mind, since I'm a fan myself. That track was actually supposed to be a bit longer, but since I didn't have a cracked version of FL Studio back when I made it, I couldn't save my session, so I just had to wrap it up short!

The rest is history.
Raymond Bailey6 Raymond Bailey6 Active Member
88 messages
joined Nov 2008
#17 ·
Here’s another little fun fact about Cesarik:

"According to the 2001 census, Cesarik has a population of 144 people, most of whom are Americans of the Catholic faith."
Joshua Smith5 Joshua Smith5 Active Member
68 messages
joined Jul 2010
#18 ·
Lawrence is a good man.

Even if Bib viti were garbage, like, say, Cripple & casino, I wouldn't have the heart to tell him. Luckily, it isn't garbage.

The whole thing worked out perfectly.

I guess.

🤷
placidranger placidranger Regular
339 messages
joined Sep 2004
#19 ·
Raymond Bailey6 said:Dammit, the music mods already handed me a RED CARD. <- this isn't just some minor tweak.

Unbelievable—the sheer reaction to artistic expression here. 😁

Art happening on some half-baked, fever-dreamed Apple Beats sessions👍

By the way, yeah, "Blue" is a legitimate disco anthem. The others are less... disco ( 🤔 how would you describe your own work? )

And seriously, how can people even live in downtown Chicago—especially those who happen to be devout Catholics? What kind of hellhole is Chicago anyway? Isn't there supposed to be a beautiful face somewhere in that mess?
placidranger placidranger Regular
339 messages
joined Sep 2004
#20 ·
Dammit, their whole source is just some old CD-ROM 😁
CD-ROM

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