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Charles Taylor10 Charles Taylor10 MemberOP
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#1 ·
I honestly think this movie is incredible—it’s just so effortlessly chic 😁 Everyone is sophisticated, yet slightly unhinged. And the acting? Unbelievable. Why doesn't anyone act like this anymore? They have actual, normal faces... you know, they're attractive, but without the overfilled lips or obvious surgery, and they aren't trying too hard with some pseudo-deep acting that has nothing to do with the plot. I love how the characters are actually fleshed out. They don't fall into those tired tropes you see in modern American movies—you know, the "perfect, witty cop" or the "stunningly beautiful, fragile woman." Instead, they're full of flaws and weaknesses. The lead guy is basically a writer living off an older woman who pays his way (honestly, I bet even someone like a jerk 😉 would want that), and she's one of those "high society" types whom men pay for her company and sex, hoping to marry someone wealthy (doesn't even have to be hot). She divides men into "bad" and "really bad," and there's this idiot with four kids who married her when she was 14—probably forced her—and she even has a cat named Cat.
The thing is, in real life, they're the kind of people I'd despise. I'd tell him: "Get a job," and I'd tell her: "Get a job." But the movie presents them differently—I don't hate them, they just have these specific personalities... she's running from responsibility and chasing wealth, though she doesn't really know what she wants... and he just doesn't care, drifting through life as a writer... like he has no purpose. Then, when they meet, somehow everything just clicks... he sells his story, and she ultimately decides to stay with him (though I suspect she would've married that guy from Argentina if she hadn't been arrested).
In reality, I feel sorry for people like that, but in the film, I admire them because the actors played them so well—they gave them this sense of elegance, this certain glow... and then there's New York City... their walks, the beauty of Audrey Hepburn... it's just a beautiful film.
Lawrence Booth2 Lawrence Booth2 Regular
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#2 ·
😁 all I can really think about is that mailbox and the mirror—you know, the whole makeup routine thing 😁😁😁
honestly, just because of that, I’d probably strangle her 😁
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
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#3 ·
Such a stunning movie.

Man, what a beautiful, incredible film.

I finally sat down to watch it this past Sunday—after way, way too long, honestly—and I just sat there with my jaw dropped... totally blown away...
Megan Reed Megan Reed Active Member
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#4 ·
The movie is 😍.
Audrey Hepburn 😍
Jose Miller17 Jose Miller17 Active Member
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#5 ·
Same here, it's a classic... I honestly forget the plot every single time, so I end up watching it like it's my first time seeing it anyway.😁😁
Anthony Davis6 Anthony Davis6 Member
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#6 ·
I remember catching movies at the local independent cinema years ago. It was a great film, honestly, though I probably need to rewatch it since my memory of it is a bit blurry. About 15 years back, I’d grab a quick screening with a friend on Friday or Saturday nights before heading out for the evening, and man, I saw so many classic Hollywood gems. I really miss that vibe. It feels impossible to find movies like *The Apartment*, *Sunset Boulevard*, *Bad Day at Black Rock*, or *12 Angry Men* anywhere these days. It’s such a shame that the big multiplexes don't just dedicate one screen to those kinds of classics. You can occasionally find something interesting at an art house theater—I actually caught a late Sergei Eisenstein film recently, though it’s been over a year since I went—but it’s all so sporadic. There’s no consistency. One time, we messed up the dates and almost walked right into a queer film instead; even the security guards gave us weird looks from their car, though they were actually pretty helpful, making sure everyone stayed safe outside. We realized our mistake at the ticket booth just in time and didn't waste any cash. Seriously, someone give us a dedicated theater for old films. Maybe someone should start a petition or a protest or something...
electrichound electrichound Newcomer
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#7 ·
Great movie 😍
Why did they have to shut down the local indie theater?! 😢
nimbledriver81 nimbledriver81 Active Member
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#8 ·
Charles Taylor10 said:... so New York City...


Oh, absolutely—New York City looks just stunning in that movie! 😬

The film itself is simply wonderful—so much so that I actually went out and bought the DVD! And let me tell you, my collection isn't exactly huge, so that’s saying something.
Larry Lewis2 Larry Lewis2 Active Member
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#9 ·
The movie was😍

It’s been a long time since a film left me with that specific, fuzzy warmth in my chest—only Angel did that after we walked out of the theater together.🙂
goldenhound32 goldenhound32 Regular
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#10 ·
Anthony Davis6 said:Someone should organize a petition or a protest, or whatever else works...

Hilarious... "someone."

Charles Taylor10 said:And then some idiot with four kids married her when she was fourteen, and he most likely forced himself on her.

Please, spare me the nonsense.

Charles Taylor10 said:They are both just two people I would personally despise; I’d tell him to get a job, and I’d tell her to get a job.

Why bother finding employment if there is no necessity? Would you work if you didn't have to?

(Though I suspect she would have married that Argentinian if they hadn't arrested him.)

I think she would... and besides, the man is Brazilian.
Anthony Davis6 Anthony Davis6 Member
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#11 ·
goldenhound32 said:lol... "someone"

Someone... I mean, obviously. It's not like I could actually pull it off... I'm honestly too disorganized to plan anything bigger than a game of Dominoes.☕
A Anonymous Veteran
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#12 ·
Charles Taylor10 said:Honestly, I feel bad for people like that in real life, but in the movie, I can't help but admire them. The actors played them so perfectly—they gave them this sense of class and elegance... plus, you've got New York City... those strolls, the beauty of Audrey Hepburn... it's just a gorgeous film.

The movie is... 🙏

"He" has nerves of steel... anyone else would have lost their mind ages ago... 😬

What do you mean, New York City? 😕 🤔
Charles Taylor10 Charles Taylor10 MemberOP
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#13 ·
goldenhound32 said:lol... "someone"

please, stop talking nonsense

Jesus, did you even watch the movie?? That guy who came over to tell her her brother was coming home from the military—she ended up marrying him when she was only 14.

goldenhound32 said:why would anyone get a job if they didn't have to? would you work if you didn't need to?

Yeah, I would. Most wealthy people still work—where do you even live?? 🤣
Charles Taylor10 Charles Taylor10 MemberOP
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#14 ·
Basta said:The movie is... 🙏

"On" has nerves of steel... anyone else would've lost their mind ages ago... 😬

What do you mean New York City? 😕 🤔


😬 Look, I already admitted I screwed up... no clue why I thought it took place in New York City—probably something about Breakfast at Tiffany's, since I always pictured it there... who knows... 🤣
goldenhound32 goldenhound32 Regular
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#15 ·
Charles Taylor10 said:Jesus, have you even seen the movie?? That guy who comes by to tell her her brother is coming home from the military? He ended up marrying her when she was only fourteen.

I apologize for not being more specific earlier. When I used the word "stupid," I was referring specifically to the segment where you discuss the assault. In just one sentence, you seem to overlook the entire runtime of what that ex-husband actually did in the film.

Charles Taylor10 said:If they could, they would. Honestly, most wealthy people operate that way; where have you been living?? 🤣

In our protagonist's case, the situation is entirely different. The wealthy individuals you're talking about didn't really have an alternative to working. She does, and she took advantage of it. Which, frankly, is fine.
Charles Taylor10 Charles Taylor10 MemberOP
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#16 ·
That’s just how I feel—it’s disgusting that he married her when she was only 14. Honestly, I don't admire her, I despise her. I’d love to tell her to actually get a job and become a real person. You can’t argue with my take.
And how would you even know which wealthy people I'm talking about??? Look, if I had a massive pile of cash and never had to work a day in my life, I’d still find something to do—or maybe I'd just have six kids and call it a day, so maybe I wouldn't work full-time. 😬
As for her? She’s just wasting everyone's time. She isn't an artist, a scientist, or even a decent singer. She's bottom of the barrel, plain and simple. 👎
goldenhound32 goldenhound32 Regular
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#17 ·
Charles Taylor10 said:And how exactly would you know which wealthy individuals I’m referring to? Honestly. Let’s just say that if I were sitting on a massive pile of cash—enough to ensure I never had to lift a finger again for the rest of my life—I’d still find a way to work. I simply couldn't help myself.

Why bother working if you don't actually have to? Perhaps some might argue that one would simply succumb to boredom, but I suspect there is more to it. One could devote oneself to various pursuits—likely non-profit endeavors—where there is no such thing as a "wrong choice." These activities wouldn't qualify as a job, or even as true labor, but rather as mere existence.

And what exactly is she doing? Just wasting everyone's time for no reason. She isn't an artist, she isn't a scientist, and she isn't even a decent singer, for heaven's sake. She's nothing more than bottom of the barrel—that's the honest truth. 👎

What do you honestly think? Do scientists pursue science, or artists chase art, simply because it serves some greater societal utility? Please. They do it because they are driven by a fundamental, almost irrational love for the craft itself. She pursues her work because she loves it; therefore, I fail to see why anyone would label her "bottom of the barrel."
wanderingmarlin352 wanderingmarlin352 Newcomer
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#18 ·
brain_cell said:Basically, they’re two people I’d despise. I’d tell him: Get a real job... Honestly, I pity people like that in real life, but in movies, I actually admire them because they are...

🙄 Look, go watch Truman, just so you realize how Breakfast at Tiffany's is partially autobiographical and his writing is definitely a "job." (I haven't seen the movie yet, but I assume you can see Capote's talent and the sheer amount of work put into creating a successful novel—it's a job.)
"She" isn't a scientist, an artist, or even "at least" a singer (which is barely a job 😕 and besides, what are blues singers? Just singers?! You generalized, so I'm asking. And she does sing, if we're being technical. Moon River 😛), but if she's a "high society woman" whom men pay for her company and sex—she isn't unemployed.
Seriously, that job has a specific name, and I think it's way harder than being a secretary or a preschool teacher.

Personally, I’d sooner despise bureaucrats locked in gray offices—you know, separated by mere partitions, hunching over from 10 to 6 under the watchful eye of some pompous, colorless boss—if I had the capacity for those kinds of observations,
But hey, I don't have the right to judge, so I won't.
And personally, I feel a certain sympathy for the outsiders who break away from the crowd, including Holly Golightly and Paul Varjak (sorry if I'm wrong, I read the book and saw the movie a long time ago; obviously more than once, but details slip your mind)
In the world we live in, love can be a rare plant. When it's missing, comfort easily becomes superficial society and its "rules," and these two vulnerable, dear souls chose the path of least resistance precisely because of their respective backgrounds... which doesn't make them any less worthy of respect, even if they were real people (I know you liked the movie, but taking these same characters and bashing them when you put them in a real-life context... that bothered me)
For Holly, characterizing a film icon who represents such a huge part of society—someone fun, sweet, gentle, and a total fashion icon—as being at "rock bottom" is at the very least tacky, if not outright malicious.👎 (Confused people who struggle with themselves and their place in the world, people who are too sensitive, people with heavy pasts but wonderful characters but zero chance... are exhausted people really "rock bottom"? Give me a break, she's a victim of society)
I went off-topic, but I don't care. (Though it feels to me like the two topics are basically the same)
I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just stating my opinion on your post. Is it too long? Yeah, it is!

On topic—the movie is wonderful. 😍
Charles Taylor10 Charles Taylor10 MemberOP
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#19 ·
Diablo. Just... Diablo. Charles Taylor10 said:🙄 Watch Truman—it’ll help you realize that Breakfast at Tiffany's is basically semi-autobiographical, and that his "writing" was always just a job. I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'm guessing you can tell from it just how much effort went into crafting a hit novel—purely business.
She isn't a scientist, an artist, or even "at least" a singer—which, let's be honest, is barely a job anyway. 😕 And what about blues singers? Are they just "singers" too? You're generalizing here—that's why I'm asking. And she sings, if we're being technical. Moon River. 😛 Look, if she’s one of those "high society" types who gets men to foot the bill just for her company and some sex—she isn't exactly unemployed.
Look, let's call it what it is—that job has a name, and honestly, it's way tougher than being some secretary or a preschool teacher.

Honestly, I’d personally loathe those bureaucrats tucked away in their gray cubicles—you know, the ones hidden behind flimsy partitions, clocking in from 8 to 4 under the watchful eye of some miserable, soul-crushing middle manager with a permanent scowl. But then again, that’s just my take on things.
I don't have the standing to judge—so I won't.
I’ve always had a soft spot for the outsiders—the ones who don't quite fit the mold—kind of like Holly Golightly and Paul Varjak. (Forgive me if I'm off on the names; it's been ages since I actually sat down with the book or watched the movie, though I've seen it plenty of times.)
In this world we live in, love is a rare plant—and when you can't find it, shallow society and its "rules" become an easy substitute. These two vulnerable souls just took the path of least resistance because of their own baggage... which doesn't make them any less worthy of contempt. And yeah, I know they’re fictional characters—I liked the movie, but seeing those same people shoved into a real-life context and mocked... that actually bothered me.
As for Holly—this girl who basically carries the whole social scene on her back because she’s charming, sweet, and a total fashion icon—she’s actually pretty trashy at heart. Maybe even malicious, if you really look at it.👎 Just a bunch of lost souls—people struggling to find their footing, too sensitive for their own good, or carrying around baggage that'll never let them go. They’ve got great hearts, really, but they're basically dead ends. And the burnt-out ones? That’s the bottom of the barrel—just more victims looking for someone to blame.
I went off-topic—not that I really care. (Though, honestly, it feels like the topic is both anyway.)
Not trying to be mean here—just giving you my two cents on your post. It’s way too long—yeah, definitely!

On topic—the movie is great. 😍

You didn't go off-topic—you actually made some solid points. But while you're busy analyzing these literary heroes, I'm just looking at the real world. Not everyone "wastes" time for no reason. When I mentioned singers, I wasn't talking about actual professionals with talent—I meant the ones who just pick up a mic because they have nothing better to do, despite having zero musical sense or rhythm. If I'm right, there are ten times more of them than the real artists.
Honestly, that mindless worship for people who just "entertain" the rich drives me nuts—call me weird, but whatever. I’d much rather be working as a janitor or a cashier than living in some pink bubble, playing nice with wealthy people I don't even like or care about just for the sake of money, money, money. I’d honestly take a life out in the middle of nowhere, maybe raising sheep or farming—yeah, it’s grueling work, but at least it's real. Not to lecture anyone, but you can find plenty of legendary artists who created masterpieces without ever selling their souls or their partners for a paycheck. Same goes for how people look down on scientists or even basic bureaucrats. Look, someone has to do those jobs—they aren't romantic or glamorous, but they're honest and absolutely essential. Honestly? All those paintings, songs, and books aren't nearly as useful as the work of a single government clerk.
So you’re calling me jealous 🙄 — easy way out, attacking people like that. Why would I even be jealous? I can still pursue music, art, literature in my downtime... plus I actually have a job where I do something useful (which I enjoy: if I were a musician, I could teach kids and make art on the side). And yeah, sure, entertainers, artists, writers—they all do "useful" things by entertaining us for centuries, but then again, bureaucrats, cashiers, janitors, delivery drivers—they’re the ones making life livable and keeping civilization from falling apart.
And as for what you said:
"that job has a name, and I think it's significantly harder than being a secretary or a preschool teacher."
Please... what a load of nonsense... first you claim they just take the path of least resistance, then you turn around and praise their craft as some peak, grueling profession. They chose it themselves.
The whole lives of people like that are just pure melodrama—endless drama... like when that one American actress joined those Carmelite nuns. Total "drama queen"... and I honestly despise it. Honestly, Holly is the perfect embodiment of that self-importance; constant planning, daydreaming about things that don't exist, ignoring the importance of the real people who love her, closing her eyes to responsibility and reality... Holly is only charming because of the actress... it's a movie, after all. You really think someone like Pamela—you know, those girls with the overfilled lips and everything else—would be charming? And yet you're so obsessed with Holly. Give me a break.
Then there's this idea that life is hard, and you can't make it easier by taking the easy way out; you'll just end up feeling more miserable. That's the whole point of the movie... because in the end, Holly is left with nothing but that poor cat and a guy who knows he's broke but chose her anyway. That's it. That's life. It's not about dreaming of stupid diamonds, tacky sparkly dresses, champagne, caviar, and all that junk that has nothing to do with happiness. He'll still create, he'll still write, but he'll probably have to work as a journalist just to feed them, and she'll have to get a real job too... maybe they won't have any diamonds from Breakfast at Tiffany's, damn it, but they'll have each other. And then, say, she gets pregnant, and they won't even have money for diapers... jeez... 😳
Joshua Bennett4 Joshua Bennett4 Active Member
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#20 ·
The book is definitely better ☕
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