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Cat under the helmet

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quieteagle5 quieteagle5 MemberOP
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I am reaching out regarding the decision to lock the thread "Cat under the helmet."
The topic was placed under the Politics subforum for a reason; I was attempting to clarify how the series—filmed in the late 70s—was produced with enough freedom to avoid the heavy-handed censorship that everyone since the 90s claims existed, particularly those former communists who have conveniently rebranded themselves as democrats.

My intention was to explain why both the book and the series were surprisingly uncensored, which was quite an anomaly during that era of "unbearable communism," as today's faux-conservative imitators like to call it.
Therefore, this pertains strictly to political climate, not to the television industry itself. I am not commenting on the props, the scriptwriting, the acting caliber, or the overall artistic merit of the production.
My focus was on the specific historical period during which the show was filmed, the state of censorship at that time, the way politics functioned back then, and how that compares to our current landscape where many of the same players remain active.
In my view, Cat under the helmet actually holds more weight than Silent Spring. It possesses a certain vitality that the latter lacks, and because of that, it feels much more truthful.

That was my point, yet the moderator Charles Fox10 was far too quick to pull the trigger, deciding that my comments were somehow an attack on TV itself. There is only a connection insofar as one watches the content through that box.
I kindly request that the thread be unlocked, as I believe I have clearly addressed and refuted the unfounded accusations made by Mr. Charles Fox10.
Charles Fox10 Charles Fox10 Regular
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quieteagle5 said:Regarding the decision to lock the "Cat under the helmet" thread.
I’ve opened this thread on Reddit to clear things up regarding how this series was actually produced. It was filmed in the late 70s, and honestly, there wasn't nearly as much censorship as people claim. Most of the outrage we hear now—especially from those former hardliners who rebranded themselves as democrats after the 90s—is just historical revisionism.

I tried to explain how both the book and the series were surprisingly uncensored, especially given what today's fake conservatives claim was that era of "unbearable communism."
That’s really more about politics than anything to do with television. I'm not talking about stage props, the script itself, acting talent, or the general vibe of the production.
I was referring to that specific era when the filming took place—touching on censorship, the way politics used to communicate back then, and how those exact same players are operating in today's climate.
Cat under the helmet deserves more credit than Silent Spring. There’s more life in Cat under the helmet than in either of them. Which makes their take much more accurate.

That’s exactly what I was getting at. Moderator Charles Fox10 was quick to pull the trigger on that one, deciding it had something to do with the TV itself. It's really just about how you're watching it through the box.
Please unlock this thread. I believe I’ve already laid out my reasoning above. Baseless accusations. Charles Fox10..

An accusation? What kind of accusation is that? Discussing a TV series, a movie, or a book isn't exactly breaking any rules here. Sure, if the show covers a certain era, you could argue it touches on history. But not everything is politics. Even on Reddit, the Politics section isn't just one single topic.
Sam Green73 Sam Green73 Active Member
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quieteagle5 said:The reason this topic was moved over to the politics section on Reddit is because we need to clarify how the series was actually made. It was filmed in the late 70s, and honestly, it was shot with a surprising amount of freedom. There wasn't nearly as much censorship as those folks who rebranded themselves from old-school communists to modern Democrats after the 90s like to claim.

I’ve been trying to point out that both the book and the show were remarkably uncensored, which was pretty wild for an era that today's more hardline conservatives love to describe as "unbearable communist oppression."

If you want to dive into the controversial parts of American history, we have a dedicated thread for that here: Controversies in American History - The Political Side
quieteagle5 quieteagle5 MemberOP
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Charles Fox10 said:The era depicted in this series might actually belong in History. It isn't strictly about politics. Even on Reddit, the Politics section features various historical topics being debated.

It’s really a blend of history and general political affairs, so one could argue it leans toward politics.
For a dedicated history sub, maybe not. For a pure politics sub? Not quite. And it certainly isn't exclusively about history.

Cat under the helmet serves as proof that things weren't some rigid, hardline communist regime—though, granted, that doesn't mean things were overly liberal either. What I'm getting at is that the right-wing narrative, painting everything before the turn of the century as total darkness, just isn't accurate. I'll repeat: not *everything*, but parts of it. That was my intention in using the series as evidence...
quieteagle5 quieteagle5 MemberOP
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Sam Green73 said:For those particularly contentious stretches of American history, we actually have a dedicated thread: American Historical Controversies - The Political Angle

Hmm. I suspect that might be an overstatement...

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