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vividmarlin5 vividmarlin5 MemberOP
32 messages
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#1 ·
I’ve posted this under the health section—mostly because I suspect these are psychological issues at this point. If anyone has any advice, similar experiences, or even just some kind of kind word... I suppose I would be grateful.

My childhood—I was the oldest, so I bore everything then, and I suppose I still do. My parents were constantly at each other's throats—they still are, actually. It’s usually about money—which we never had—but honestly, they’ll find a reason to fight even if one doesn't exist. It doesn't matter. My father is an alcoholic. His two brothers are alcoholics, too. His mother and late father were the same. We never really stayed in touch with that side of the family, which—if I'm being honest—is probably for the best. This house is enough for me. But he isn't a father—he's just a biological marker.
I've dealt with asthma my entire life—though, I suppose, it’s likely all just psychosomatic. Most illnesses seem to stem from that anyway... maybe.
Mother had more kids later—so naturally, none of these issues ever touch the younger ones, not even half the time. I was the firstborn, which meant I got to enjoy the "biggest and sweetest slice of the cake"—if you can call it that.
I'm in my twenties—working, surviving—but I've always been the odd one out. Just the black sheep, really; anxious, depressed, and perpetually uneasy, especially when stepping into unfamiliar territory. I can't seem to shake the dread—it follows me everywhere. I just don't know how to switch off, and frankly, it hurts. Making friends or even just socializing feels impossible. I find myself envying those people who can just... walk up to a stranger and start a conversation without a hint of nerves. They have these massive circles of friends where everything is just fine. Me? I only have a handful of people I can actually trust—and even then, it’s limited. I never open up about family stuff—never. My friends don't have any idea what I'm actually going through, and honestly, the shame of it is overwhelming. Every time I think about finally opening up to my best friend, I chicken out. Because I know if I actually started talking, the tears would just come—and I probably wouldn't be able to stop for hours.
I never really received the kind of parental love a child actually needs—not that I expected much—so I suppose I just keep looking for it in all the wrong places. It's a cycle, I guess.
Regarding relationships—it’s been a long time since I’ve been with anyone, and honestly, I haven't exactly been looking—but I suppose I never really had that typical teenage experience everyone else seems to get. I was more like a sheltered dog—just going to school and coming straight home—though there weren't any strict rules forced upon me, like being told I had to be home by a certain hour or whatever. That was my own choice, I guess; growing up in an environment defined by constant criticism and dissatisfaction tends to just... drain your will. There was never any money for extracurriculars, which probably didn't help the lack of motivation—and even when I did have music lessons, the drive for that eventually just withered away too.
I fell in love at twenty—and for a long time, too. But I suppose I was looking for too much—searching for that specific brand of happiness and affection I never really got growing up. The truth is, a partner can only offer one kind of love; they can’t possibly fulfill every single void. It made me possessive—jealous, constantly asking "where are you," "why didn't you call," "why aren't we going out," "where are you heading"... and if things didn't go my way, well, my stubbornness was legendary. I honestly wonder why anyone would put up with me like that. He did, though. I ended things. I fell out of love, unlike him—it turns out he just reminded me too much of home.
I’m pining for someone I barely even know—I guess I don't truly understand why. That brief window of time feels like a dream—something entirely surreal... that person, those moments.

I’m feeling depressed, anxious—just generally low—and honestly, I have no idea where to find any shred of motivation or positivity. It isn't about searching for love again—I know that much by now—but once you get used to having it, there really is no going back. Even after a few weeks since the breakup, I just can't stop overthinking everything. Why did it end like this? Why did I act the way I did? Why can't I just behave normally like everyone else... I guess.

So, here I am—alone, whether I'm at home or stuck at the office—just spiraling through my own thoughts. I’ve finally started opening up to my mom about everything. She tells me it’s good to talk—that I need to start being vulnerable—claiming these childhood issues will just haunt me forever if I don't face them head-on. Apparently, you have to go back to the roots. But... how? How do you actually change something that was baked into your psyche decades ago? Where does one even begin to find purpose? I see the patterns—I understand exactly what the problem is and why things turned out this way—but knowing isn't the same as changing my mindset, my thoughts, or my entire self. And honestly, the worst part is that 90% of people couldn't care less about anyone else's struggles. So why bother bothering others with your problems when most people don't want to listen, let alone help?
I went to a pilgrimage site in the Midwest because my mom insisted. I shed some tears—but that’s not the point. If I actually started weeping over everything I've been through and am still dealing with, I’d probably just die from the grief—there’s no stopping it. I'd be crying for days, weeks, months... and I realized that faith isn't my salvation. It's just not working for me. I have to keep searching.
If I keep going down this path, I'm looking at a one-way ticket to a psychiatric ward.
Samuel Hall Samuel Hall Newcomer
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#2 ·
No offense intended, but I honestly think you could really benefit from talking to a professional.
Maybe try seeing a therapist—trust me, I know a few people who have worked through most of their baggage that way. It sucks, and some people just aren't fit to be parents, leaving scars that last a lifetime, but there comes a point where you just have to cut ties, make peace with the past, and start moving forward without all that weight on your shoulders.
vividmarlin5 vividmarlin5 MemberOP
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joined Jan 2004
#3 ·
Kate Kelly83 said:No offense intended—but honestly, you probably need some professional help.
Maybe try seeing a therapist; believe me, I know several people who have solved most of their issues that way. Unfortunately, some people just aren't fit to be parents and leave scars that last a lifetime, but eventually, you have to cut ties, make peace with the past, and move forward without all that baggage.

I don't have any ill intentions—any advice is welcome, I suppose. But this goes so deep that I just can't find the strength. I had already been thinking about seeing a psychologist, but then I mentioned it to the wrong person—my mother—who immediately criticized that as a way to solve things. It’s not even that she matters that much—I would go to a therapist regardless—it's just that then you start wondering if she's right... if these aren't actually real problems, or if I'm just overreacting... you know what I mean?

"Make peace with the past and move forward unburdened."
That is my only wish, really. 🙂>
Jonathan Reed4 Jonathan Reed4 Active Member
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joined Jan 2004
#4 ·
vividmarlin5 said:I’m posting this under health because I feel like these are mental health issues. If anyone has advice, similar stories, or just some kind words... I would truly appreciate it. ....................

Unfortunately, I only have a couple of people I can actually talk to. And even then, it’s limited—I’ll share certain things, but never anything involving my family. None of my friends really know what I’m going through or how much I'm struggling.
The truth is, I feel an overwhelming sense of shame about it.

If I keep going like this, I'm probably headed for a psychiatrist.


Why the hesitation toward seeing a psychiatrist? Honestly, a good therapist could make a world of difference for you, especially if you find it hard to open up even to your close friends.
vividmarlin5 vividmarlin5 MemberOP
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#5 ·
Sandra Wilson38 said:Why the aversion to psychiatry? Honestly, a good psychotherapist could really help you—believe me—especially if you’re too hesitant to even open up to a friend.

Did I mention my upbringing? That deep-seated distrust of psychiatry is baked right into my roots.

I suppose I'm slowly trying to work through these prejudices—it might take a real step forward.
Samuel Hall Samuel Hall Newcomer
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joined Aug 2005
#6 ·
If you’re feeling down, it means you aren't just making stuff up in your head. Honestly, I wouldn't even mention it to anyone—people can be seriously nasty sometimes.
But honestly, the money is the real kicker. My friend is going through some rough stuff right now; it seems like a lot of it stems from her childhood. She’s been seeing a private therapist who’s actually helping her out a ton. The biggest thing is how much her self-esteem took a hit. But man, an hour session here in New York City costs $67. And she’s going at least once a week. If I remember right, she was even going twice a week at first when things were hitting the fan.
And look, my friend isn't "crazy." It’s not like she’s dealing with depression, paranoia, or schizophrenia. She’s just trying to shake off those ghosts from her past that have basically defined who she is forever.
Jonathan Reed4 Jonathan Reed4 Active Member
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joined Jan 2004
#7 ·
Kate Kelly83 said:Actually, the money is the bigger issue.
One therapy session right here in New York City costs $67. And she goes at least once a week. If I remember correctly, she was actually going twice a week at first when things were really hitting the fan.

You can see a psychiatrist, psychologist, or psychotherapist—just like any other doctor—at a clinic if you have a referral from your primary care physician!
vividmarlin5 vividmarlin5 MemberOP
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joined Jan 2004
#8 ·
Kate Kelly83 said:>
If you're feeling this low, it means you aren't just making things up—it's real. Besides, I wouldn't tell anyone if I were you; people can be incredibly cruel.
Well, the money is actually the bigger issue. My friend is dealing with some pretty heavy stuff right now—it seems like most of it stems from her childhood—and she’s seeing a private therapist who’s actually helping her. Her biggest struggle is just... shattered self-esteem, I guess. But an hour of therapy here in New York City costs $67. And she goes at least once a week. If I remember correctly, she was even going twice a week at first, back when things were at their absolute worst.
And look, my friend isn't "mentally ill"—she doesn't have depression, paranoia, or schizophrenia—she's just trying to shake off those ghosts from her past that have basically defined who she is forever.

Regarding people being cruel—you're right. I actually ended up venting to someone I barely even know. They didn't get it. They just shut me out.
God, the money. It’s getting difficult. I’ve been thinking about it, and I really don't like the idea of having to see a state-funded psychiatrist.
As for private specialists... I'd honestly pay quite a bit just to finally rid myself of those "ghosts from the past" that seem to have decided who I am.
Just like your friend, I don't suffer from any actual psychiatric illness—but I certainly don't believe these issues will just go away on their own unless I do something about them.
Samuel Hall Samuel Hall Newcomer
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joined Aug 2005
#9 ·
I'm right there with you on that.
Michael Cox40 Michael Cox40 Member
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joined Mar 2003
#10 ·
Just like everyone else here, my only suggestion is to see a psychiatrist. And before you jump to conclusions, I’m not saying you’re "sick" or "crazy" or anything like that. Not by a long shot. You’re dealing with baggage stemming from a rough childhood, just like anyone else deals with the fallout of whatever trauma they went through.
As for that aversion you have, it really just comes down to prejudice. But honestly, living in a country like this, I get why you feel that way. Still, you want to feel better, right? You’ve recognized there’s an issue, and a professional is the only one who can actually help. You have to realize those stigmas are only hurting you.
Regarding these "public" psychiatrists—it’s a bit of a mixed bag. If you were here in Miami, I could probably give you a list of a few doctors working through the public system who are actually great and just as good as the private ones. I'm sure you can find similar gems in other major US cities too.
You know deep down things aren't going to fix themselves. Just take the first step and start looking around. There is zero shame in seeing a psychiatrist, and most of the public doctors aren't bad at all. What more can I say?
The sooner you seek help, the better it will be for you. I'm rooting for you to find the strength to push past those old prejudices. 👍
Kenneth Hernandez67 Kenneth Hernandez67 Regular
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joined May 2005
#11 ·
Karen Brooks said:That doesn't mean I'm trying to say you're sick, crazy, or anything else.

Let's be clear: there is no distinction between being "sick" and being "crazy."

If you have a toothache, you don't feel ashamed to see a dentist.

Just go back to the very first page of my thread titled 'Please' and read it. You'll see that shame, awkwardness, and the refusal to seek professional help are exactly what cause the trouble here.

Read it, seriously.
Michael Cox40 Michael Cox40 Member
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joined Mar 2003
#12 ·
Of course, Betty Rivera14, the whole point was just to list the labels people tend to slap on anyone who actually sees a psychiatrist. Though, let’s be honest, calling someone "sick" is really just the polite euphemism we use when we don't want to be overtly insulting.
Kenneth Hernandez67 Kenneth Hernandez67 Regular
351 messages
joined May 2005
#13 ·
You’re absolutely right... I’ve already been labeled because I have a family member who's considered "unstable."🙄
John Adams4 John Adams4 Member
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joined Jul 2010
#14 ·
Soraya, I suppose vividmarlin5 should probably pay closer attention to their writing style.
I would love to be wrong—in which case, my apologies to everyone.
Michael Cox40 Michael Cox40 Member
44 messages
joined Mar 2003
#15 ·
Who exactly are you trying to impersonate? Given your post count and the date you joined, I find it suspicious that you're already talking about Soraya.🙄
John Adams4 John Adams4 Member
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joined Jul 2010
#16 ·
To nobody in particular, but I’ve spent hours scrolling through this thread over the last ten days. I read the entire thing regarding bSh, and—I suppose—it bears a striking resemblance to this discussion.
I will admit I haven't read anything specifically from Soraya, but given how they've been linked to bSh, it all feels a bit suspicious to me. My apologies again if my connection there is misplaced.
Kenneth Hill37 Kenneth Hill37 Member
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joined Dec 2003
#17 ·
Rom said:Did I mention my background? There’s also this deep-seated aversion to psychiatry in my family.

Well, I'm slowly trying to work through those old prejudices—I know I need to take a real step forward.

Then just do it.
Because let's be honest, nobody else can pull the trigger for you.
Kenneth Hill37 Kenneth Hill37 Member
47 messages
joined Dec 2003
#18 ·
You’re still acting like a total child.
You’re sitting there demanding compensation for everything you feel you missed out on—as if life owes you a refund for things that didn't go your way.
Look, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but that's just not how the world works.
There is no magical way to make up for lost time; your only real option is to stop looking back and just move on.
And for heaven's sake, start actually appreciating your siblings instead of nursing this bitter resentment just because they weren't the ones in the spotlight first.
Kenneth Hill37 Kenneth Hill37 Member
47 messages
joined Dec 2003
#19 ·
Your roots are part of who you are—they aren't some imaginary childhood or a collection of cherry-picked memories.
Look, you’re always going to be tied to your parents, so honestly? It’s much healthier to just accept them for exactly who they are—flaws and all—rather than wasting energy pretending they should be someone else just to suit your needs.
That’s the only way you’ll ever actually find some self-respect.
The way you're talking sounds purely narcissistic. It’s just not healthy.
To me, depression often looks like nothing more than self-pity and an obsession with centering everything around yourself.
I’m speaking from my own life experience here.
Henry Wilson48 Henry Wilson48 Member
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joined Mar 2003
#20 ·
I was feeling exactly the same way you are right now earlier this summer. Honestly, I’m glad you decided to start putting this into words; please, just keep writing whenever the urge hits. There are plenty of people in this community who truly get it. 😉

Maybe seeing this thread about childhood trauma might give you a little boost—it certainly did for me. It almost made me forget that I ever struggled with my parents at all. Sure, I still get these sudden waves of anxiety every now and then when something triggers a memory, and sometimes it feels like my past is just holding me back, but let's be real: we're all dealing with these little scars and setbacks. Nobody makes it through this imperfect world without a few bumps in the road. I just sit with it, process it, and keep moving.

I have to say, the folks on this forum have been an absolute lifeline for me. A huge thank you to everyone 😉 👋

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