Benjamin Martin80 said:Could someone please enlighten me as to what exact criteria were used to appoint the current moderators over at the Men's Corner?
Let’s set aside my own personal grievances with them for a moment.
My personal theory is that the moderators on any given subforum are usually just forum regulars who have contributed somewhat to that specific section—people who happen to post there more frequently than elsewhere—provided they haven't committed any major violations of the site rules, especially regarding the "heavyweight" offenses.
I can't speak for every single corner of this site, but the rest of the forum seems reasonably well-managed to me; the more serious sections, in particular. Even Chuck is actually a decent mod over in the Politics section.
However, if one takes a look at the Men's Corner, the lack of cohesion with the rest of the forum becomes glaringly obvious. The moderator assigned there is none other than Chuck, a man who seemingly has absolutely nothing to do with the culture of the Men's Corner. He doesn't know how to joke around the way we do there, he doesn't write in the style of the MC, he isn't particularly entertaining, and frankly, nobody in that subforum actually cares about him. He only shows his face when it's time to hand out bans or to occasionally drool over the ladies.
Dee also contributes absolutely nothing of value to the Men's Corner through his posts. Ninety percent of his activity is centered around food and cooking. The guy cooks, dances, sings... I fail to see how he adds anything to the "guy talk" vibe. Where are his actual meaningful contributions, aside from issuing bans and the occasional thirsty comment on those threads with the photos? 😕
United Airlines handles the Travel section, and he’s doing an alright job there too. I've followed that subforum a bit, and it seems to function quite well. But this guy never even bothered to post in the Men's Corner until that photo thread showed up, where his only talent is being a creep and acting like he's some big shot. 😕 His contribution to the Men's Corner is zero. He's just an annoying, witless presence.
As for mother, I honestly don't know if the man is even still alive.
To me, it’s crystal clear: these three living souls were slapped onto the Men's Corner as mods simply because they already held moderator positions in other sections. They probably tossed a few posts into the MC, and management figured it was easier to just move existing mods over rather than recruiting someone new.
But is that really the smartest way to run things? These guys have no idea what the Men's Corner used to be like; they don't grasp the specific brand of sarcasm we have, and they've turned what used to be a real community into some sanitized, "soft" version of a social club.
Let’s be honest here: the subforum has dwindled down to basically just a thread of photos where the same three or four girls constantly post pictures, the same three or four guys constantly compliment them, while everyone else sits on the sidelines being creeps and sliding into DMs.
Every other topic follows the same stale pattern—rehashed, mindless ideas and dull posts filled with "LOLs" and "ROFLs," which, let's be real, aren't half as funny as a mediocre American stand-up comedian.
So, I believe I have every right to ask: why aren't the moderators being rotated out when they have clearly ruined the Men's Corner?
It feels like most of the mods operate that way. I remember back in the day, there were times when nobody on those specific sub-forums even wanted to take on a mod role, so they’d just grab someone who was knowledgeable, even if they weren't hanging out in that particular corner of the site as much. The veteran MK-ovac moderators were actually appointed exactly the way you described, but it’s totally possible that over the years, their activity as regular posters has naturally tapered off—though that doesn't necessarily mean they aren't still the right people for the job.
Benjamin Martin80 said:Could someone please enlighten me as to what exact criteria were used to appoint the current moderators over at the Men's Corner?
Let’s set aside my own personal grievances with them for a moment.
My personal theory is that the moderators on any given subforum are usually just forum regulars who have contributed somewhat to that specific section—people who happen to post there more frequently than elsewhere—provided they haven't committed any major violations of the site rules, especially regarding the "heavyweight" offenses.
I can't speak for every single corner of this site, but the rest of the forum seems reasonably well-managed to me; the more serious sections, in particular. Even Chuck is actually a decent mod over in the Politics section.
However, if one takes a look at the Men's Corner, the lack of cohesion with the rest of the forum becomes glaringly obvious. The moderator assigned there is none other than Chuck, a man who seemingly has absolutely nothing to do with the culture of the Men's Corner. He doesn't know how to joke around the way we do there, he doesn't write in the style of the MC, he isn't particularly entertaining, and frankly, nobody in that subforum actually cares about him. He only shows his face when it's time to hand out bans or to occasionally drool over the ladies.
Dee also contributes absolutely nothing of value to the Men's Corner through his posts. Ninety percent of his activity is centered around food and cooking. The guy cooks, dances, sings... I fail to see how he adds anything to the "guy talk" vibe. Where are his actual meaningful contributions, aside from issuing bans and the occasional thirsty comment on those threads with the photos? 😕
United Airlines handles the Travel section, and he’s doing an alright job there too. I've followed that subforum a bit, and it seems to function quite well. But this guy never even bothered to post in the Men's Corner until that photo thread showed up, where his only talent is being a creep and acting like he's some big shot. 😕 His contribution to the Men's Corner is zero. He's just an annoying, witless presence.
As for mother, I honestly don't know if the man is even still alive.
To me, it’s crystal clear: these three living souls were slapped onto the Men's Corner as mods simply because they already held moderator positions in other sections. They probably tossed a few posts into the MC, and management figured it was easier to just move existing mods over rather than recruiting someone new.
But is that really the smartest way to run things? These guys have no idea what the Men's Corner used to be like; they don't grasp the specific brand of sarcasm we have, and they've turned what used to be a real community into some sanitized, "soft" version of a social club.
Let’s be honest here: the subforum has dwindled down to basically just a thread of photos where the same three or four girls constantly post pictures, the same three or four guys constantly compliment them, while everyone else sits on the sidelines being creeps and sliding into DMs.
Every other topic follows the same stale pattern—rehashed, mindless ideas and dull posts filled with "LOLs" and "ROFLs," which, let's be real, aren't half as funny as a mediocre American stand-up comedian.
So, I believe I have every right to ask: why aren't the moderators being rotated out when they have clearly ruined the Men's Corner?
Look, let's be real for a second—the quality of our PDFs isn't just on the shoulders of the moderators; we as forum members play a huge role in that too.
Benjamin Martin80 said:First off, let me make one thing clear: I’ve been hanging around this forum much longer than you have, and I've been on the CIA boards even longer. This isn't even my first handle 😉
. Back when Chuck was running the show, things were fundamentally different. You probably don't even remember half the users who used to post back then. The whole vibe—the banter, the sheer chaos—was on a completely different level. Out of all those old-timers, the only one I still see around is mum. Everyone else either vanished into thin air or retreated to some hole-in-the-wall dive bar somewhere deep in the Midwest 🙄
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It is honestly just pathetic that there’s now a single thread on the CIA boards that carries its own set of special rules, even if it’s just about file sharing. It used to be that the CIA was nothing but pure, unadulterated nonsense. And sure, naturally, the chauvinism was always dialed up to eleven. Women were always posting on the CIA, too, but they were always part of the joke, getting teased and ribbed just like everyone else.
But now? Now you come along, you write a little something to some random woman who’s dumped 150 photos and racked up 3,000 posts in a single thread, you call her out, and suddenly you get banned. Why? Since when did women start moderating the CIA? Since when did chauvinism become forbidden territory here? Since when was having a laugh against the rules?
Look, let’s be real: a forum is a living, breathing thing. It grows, it shifts, and it evolves constantly. People cycle through—some move on to other things, while new faces show up, and because of that, the whole vibe changes. The culture shifts, the way we hang out moves, and even the topics that grab our attention evolve over time. There’s just no way to make it perfectly suit everyone all at once. I know some folks will always look back and swear the old MK was much better, while others are loving the way things are right now. And honestly? That’s just how it goes.
Benjamin Martin80 said:First off, let me make one thing clear: I’ve been hanging around this forum much longer than you have, and I've been on the CIA boards even longer. This isn't even my first handle 😉
. Back when Chuck was running the show, things were fundamentally different. You probably don't even remember half the users who used to post back then. The whole vibe—the banter, the sheer chaos—was on a completely different level. Out of all those old-timers, the only one I still see around is mum. Everyone else either vanished into thin air or retreated to some hole-in-the-wall dive bar somewhere deep in the Midwest 🙄
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It is honestly just pathetic that there’s now a single thread on the CIA boards that carries its own set of special rules, even if it’s just about file sharing. It used to be that the CIA was nothing but pure, unadulterated nonsense. And sure, naturally, the chauvinism was always dialed up to eleven. Women were always posting on the CIA, too, but they were always part of the joke, getting teased and ribbed just like everyone else.
But now? Now you come along, you write a little something to some random woman who’s dumped 150 photos and racked up 3,000 posts in a single thread, you call her out, and suddenly you get banned. Why? Since when did women start moderating the CIA? Since when did chauvinism become forbidden territory here? Since when was having a laugh against the rules?
Look, some threads just need a different set of ground rules because they deal with sensitive topics or specific subject matter. If we tried to apply our standard moderation style to them, it would honestly cause more chaos than actual order. Regarding that downloading thread—right now, it has to stay exclusively on MK-ovac. We can't just move it to some other corner of the forum. It simply can't function like any other typical MK-ovac thread because the nature of its content requires a specialized approach to keep things running smoothly and in line with our overall forum guidelines.
Benjamin Martin80 said:First off, let me make one thing clear: I’ve been hanging around this forum much longer than you have, and I've been on the CIA boards even longer. This isn't even my first handle 😉
. Back when Chuck was running the show, things were fundamentally different. You probably don't even remember half the users who used to post back then. The whole vibe—the banter, the sheer chaos—was on a completely different level. Out of all those old-timers, the only one I still see around is mum. Everyone else either vanished into thin air or retreated to some hole-in-the-wall dive bar somewhere deep in the Midwest 🙄
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It is honestly just pathetic that there’s now a single thread on the CIA boards that carries its own set of special rules, even if it’s just about file sharing. It used to be that the CIA was nothing but pure, unadulterated nonsense. And sure, naturally, the chauvinism was always dialed up to eleven. Women were always posting on the CIA, too, but they were always part of the joke, getting teased and ribbed just like everyone else.
But now? Now you come along, you write a little something to some random woman who’s dumped 150 photos and racked up 3,000 posts in a single thread, you call her out, and suddenly you get banned. Why? Since when did women start moderating the CIA? Since when did chauvinism become forbidden territory here? Since when was having a laugh against the rules?
I honestly don't know about that. I think there are plenty of smart people on MK who are perfectly capable of having actual, serious discussions instead of just leaning into that "it's all just a joke" attitude. We should give them the chance to do that. Sure, most threads on MK still feel pretty tongue-in-cheek, but it’s such a shame when we let potentially great topics get trivialized, especially when they have the potential to be a space for high-quality, lively debate that we can all be proud of.
Benjamin Martin80 said:And you're starting this whole thing with them.
Honestly, I'm already getting my cut from the CIA, but I really ought to write down exactly what they expect from me.
Yeah, he and I are still stuck in this loop together. And Rita was actually pretty decent. Degan even used to post his own photos despite all the mod critiques.🤣
Can you even imagine anyone from today's crowd acting like that?
Well, you said it. And since you're talking about being banned from MK—which basically means you're barred from participating at all—you really shouldn't be getting involved in editing that PDF. If you want to contest the ban, just go ahead and start a formal thread for that.
