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Coffee & Chat - Jack & Jill Davidson - post deletion policies

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Participants Joseph Moore4Henry Hayes3Richard Sanders7goldenotter9Tyler Vaughn7Jeffrey Allen92Scott Miller5William Bennett53
Joseph Moore4 Joseph Moore4 MemberOP
22 messages
joined Apr 2008
#1 ·
Could I get an explanation regarding my last deleted post in the "What do you think of this user?" thread?

I’m not sure which mod handled the cleanup, though I assume someone did.

It feels like too many of my posts have been disappearing lately without any heads-up or reasoning, so I'd appreciate some clarity.
Joseph Moore4 Joseph Moore4 MemberOP
22 messages
joined Apr 2008
#2 ·
I've been wondering if it's actually standard procedure for mods to slide into members' DMs with "advice" telling them to steer clear of certain subforums, or if some of them just enjoy acting like they own the place.

If this doesn't belong here... well, I'll just start a new thread.
Henry Hayes3 Henry Hayes3 Member
44 messages
joined Oct 2014
#3 ·
Same here, Maria Fowler39 is just wiping everything out ☕
Richard Sanders7 Richard Sanders7 Member
22 messages
joined Aug 2022
#4 ·
Angela Campbell84 said:I was also wondering if it’s standard procedure for moderators to send private messages to members "advising" them to stay away from certain subforums, or if that's just how some of them choose to handle things?

I figured I'd drop this here... if it doesn't belong in this thread, I'll just start a new one.

Who actually gave someone that advice? 🍿

Speaking of Jack & Jill Davidson and Wacky, I honestly don't get how he managed to land a moderator spot. The guy used to be so much more aggressive; I distinctly remember him tossing out all sorts of insults at other members back in the day. Personally, I don't have anything against him, but him being a mod?! Seriously?!
goldenotter9 goldenotter9 Member
12 messages
joined Sep 2016
#5 ·
Just relax, everyone. 😬 They think you're all just my clones, which is why they're acting so high and mighty. XD
Tyler Vaughn7 Tyler Vaughn7 Active Member
59 messages
joined Feb 2023
#6 ·
Angela Campbell84 said:I’d appreciate a formal statement regarding that last deleted post on the thread "What do you think of this user?"

I have no idea which moderator handled the cleanup, though I'm assuming one of them did.

I’ve noticed that quite a few of my posts have been disappearing lately, and honestly, there hasn't been any explanation provided for it. So, if anyone's willing to weigh in, I'd appreciate some clarity on what's actually going on here.

What does "too many posts" actually mean here? This whole forum was designed for hanging out and grabbing a virtual coffee—it’s meant to be about socializing and having a laugh, not constant sniping and provocation. Those posts that veer into that territory have been deleted.
Joseph Moore4 Joseph Moore4 MemberOP
22 messages
joined Apr 2008
#7 ·
Maria Fowler39 said:What does "too many posts" even mean? This forum was built for hanging out and grabbing a virtual coffee, not for constant sniping or baiting people. Any posts heading in that direction get wiped.

Look, I’m asking nicely: just show me the specific post you're claiming is "baiting" or "provocative."

Because there's zero connection there.

By "too many posts," I mean more than three. So, I figured I'd ask about it. 🙂
Tyler Vaughn7 Tyler Vaughn7 Active Member
59 messages
joined Feb 2023
#8 ·
Jeffrey Allen92 said:I suspect Maria Fowler39 is behind this, deleting my posts... she actually gave me a warning today just because I adjusted some odds...

I haven't insulted anyone or said anything particularly nasty, yet my posts get wiped and I get sanctioned anyway. I don't think that really qualifies as solid moderation...

The warning message actually included an explanation. You aren't allowed to edit someone else's posts, and since that's exactly what you did, you broke the forum rules.
Jeffrey Allen92 Jeffrey Allen92 Active Member
50 messages
joined Jul 2016
#9 ·
Maria Fowler39 said:The warning you received included a clear explanation. You aren't allowed to edit other people's posts, and since that's exactly what you did, you broke the community rules.

In the US, this kind of thing happens all the time and nobody gets penalized for it. Second, nobody is offended here. I edited the post in the thread, just like you deleted a bunch of my other posts... do you honestly think I spend time typing out a post just so I can watch it get nuked? Whether it was a mistake or not, it was mine. If I didn't insult anyone or cause actual trouble, then you don't have any business breathing down my neck about it. Honestly, it feels more like you're just acting on personal preferences regarding who you like and who you don't.

Moderation shouldn't be about blindly following rules like a robot; use some common sense. It’s obvious who's being malicious and who's just here to relax and have a laugh. If you start handing out sanctions to the people just trying to hang out, that isn't moderation—it's just garbage.
Joseph Moore4 Joseph Moore4 MemberOP
22 messages
joined Apr 2008
#10 ·
Maria Fowler39 said:The explanation was included in the message with the warning. You aren't allowed to edit other people's posts, and that's exactly what you did, which broke the forum rules.

We've always treated the Coffee & Hangout thread as a bit more laid-back than the rest, since it’s meant—just like you said—for socializing and joking around.

Sometimes editing a post is just part of the banter. This rigid moderation kind of kills the vibe. But hey, it's your call how you want to run the board; I assume you have your reasons.🙂

It felt similar during a chat session the other night, when you both were frantically deleting things and flagging posts over nothing. For instance, when FF9 sent me something along the lines of "Angela Campbell84 is such a loser," it wasn't even an insult worth a second thought. It didn't need to be deleted or sanctioned because you saw for yourself that I just joked back and the conversation could have kept flowing fine... but still... deletions. This insistence on keeping the hangout thread perfectly sterile feels weird. Personally, I don't see the point or any benefit to the users here.🤷
Tyler Vaughn7 Tyler Vaughn7 Active Member
59 messages
joined Feb 2023
#11 ·
Angela Campbell84 said:Up until now, we've always assumed the Socializing and Coffee thread would be a bit more laid back than the rest, since its whole purpose—as you put it—is just hanging out and joking around.

Sometimes editing a post is just that—socializing and banter. This rigid moderation kind of kills the whole vibe. But hey, it's your call how you want to run this thread; I assume you have your reasons 🙂
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Something similar happened in the chat the other night, when you both were deleting things like crazy and tossing out posts over totally unnecessary stuff. For instance, when someone wrote something to me in the style of 'Angela Campbell84, you jerk,' it wasn't even an insult, and there was zero need to delete it or hand out sanctions. You saw for yourself that I responded in a joking tone and the conversation could have easily kept going... but still... deletion. I find this insistence on keeping the social thread so hyper-sterile a bit strange. Personally, I don't see the point or any benefit to the users here 🤷

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Look, you'll eventually realize that it’s actually pretty tough for a moderator to tell who is joking with whom and who is actually poking at someone. Rules exist to ensure everyone is treated equally; otherwise, they aren't really rules. When you frame it the way you did, it sounds like a total utopia, but it isn't quite like that, which is evidenced by the complaints moderators constantly deal with. And sure, the rules might be a bit softer here, but these still aren't the casual off-topic threads where everything is on a completely different level of chill.
Editing posts isn't allowed anywhere on the forum, except maybe in the off-topic sections. Though, I'm not entirely sure it would go any smoother there if the original author decided to file a complaint about their post being changed.
Joseph Moore4 Joseph Moore4 MemberOP
22 messages
joined Apr 2008
#12 ·
Maria Fowler39 said:Look, it's tough for a moderator to tell the difference between friendly banter and someone actually being a jerk, and rules exist to keep things level for everyone. When you frame it the way you did, it sounds like a total breeze, but it’s not—the mods get plenty of complaints to prove it. Sure, the guidelines are a bit more relaxed here, but this isn't a formal debate hall where everything is strictly by the book.

Did I complain about that post? No.

Did I report it? No.

Or did I just give him a normal response, which clearly showed you that everything was fine? Yes.

So, what exactly was the issue?

What's wrong with my comment on the thread about the user who got banned today?

Are you implying someone actually complained about it?

Can you post a link or a screenshot? Because if that specific post is the reason for any kind of complaint on your end, then I think it really needs to be made public.

There you go.
Scott Miller5 Scott Miller5 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Feb 2012
#13 ·
I don't see any issue here. If the individual who felt offended actually pressed the button, then fine, but everything else is just hair-splitting.
Joseph Moore4 Joseph Moore4 MemberOP
22 messages
joined Apr 2008
#14 ·
Maria Fowler39, I reported that post a while ago, but it’s still sitting there like it never happened.

Am I really going to get the "moderators aren't online 24/7" excuse now?
Tyler Vaughn7 Tyler Vaughn7 Active Member
59 messages
joined Feb 2023
#15 ·
Angela Campbell84 said:Maria Fowler39, on the other hand, I reported this post but it’s just sitting there, completely untouched.

Am I going to get that classic response about how moderators aren't online 24/7 now?

No, you won't, though I didn't realize this was directed at me. If it was, maybe you should have flagged me via a notification or a DM, and I would've stepped in.
Joseph Moore4 Joseph Moore4 MemberOP
22 messages
joined Apr 2008
#16 ·
Maria Fowler39 said:I didn't realize you were talking about yourself. If I had, I would have flagged it or sent a DM. I would've reacted sooner.

Hit the flag button. 🙂
Tyler Vaughn7 Tyler Vaughn7 Active Member
59 messages
joined Feb 2023
#17 ·
Angela Campbell84 said:I pressed the little triangle icon. 🙂

Deleted. (Though I still haven't seen your report hit my inbox)
Richard Sanders7 Richard Sanders7 Member
22 messages
joined Aug 2022
#18 ·
Maria Fowler39 is definitely my favorite mod 🙂
Joseph Moore4 Joseph Moore4 MemberOP
22 messages
joined Apr 2008
#19 ·
Richard Sanders7 said:Maria Fowler39 is my favorite mod 🙂

Same here. It’s that song in her signature. 🙂
William Bennett53 William Bennett53 Regular
491 messages
joined Sep 2016
#20 ·
I assume the mystery surrounding that deleted post has been settled, so I’m placing this here under the radar.

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