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Complaint about the emigration moderators

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Participants Richard Lewis16William Bennett53Henry Moore2Laura Rivera3Amanda Wilson10Chris Myersstormylynx4
Richard Lewis16 Richard Lewis16 Active MemberOP
221 messages
joined Sep 2009
#1 ·
So, I’m just going to vent here, because apparently filing reports doesn't actually accomplish anything... I mean, I try reporting posts, and when there's zero reaction, I'll just jump back into the thread to reply to the guy myself, but then my replies get wiped while his stay right where they are
It feels a bit rigged, honestly... anyway, this is more specifically about the whole Canada discussion...
William Bennett53 William Bennett53 Regular
491 messages
joined Sep 2016
#2 ·
To be more precise, you really ought to provide direct links to these problematic posts—not just one instance, but several if this is a recurring issue—and specify exactly which of your own replies are being deleted.
Richard Lewis16 Richard Lewis16 Active MemberOP
221 messages
joined Sep 2009
#3 ·
Well, everything’s been wiped clean now, I see, and I even managed to snag a warning for my post... and that's after I went through the trouble of opening this thread myself 😁 but oh well
I’m hardly a moderator here, so I can't exactly track which of my posts were scrubbed, though I know there were more than just one since a friend from work was teasing me about it over coffee earlier
I definitely reported at least three posts, and if this happens again, I'll make sure to drop the links and include screenshots just to be safe
Anyway, the place has been tidied up, so thanks for that... I just hope we don't have to go through this again
Henry Moore2 Henry Moore2 Active Member
69 messages
joined Feb 2009
#4 ·
I, honestly, I’m just hoping we don't fall back into that cycle where everyone starts veering off-topic or getting into heated arguments about the American economy when the discussion is actually supposed to be about emigration.
Laura Rivera3 Laura Rivera3 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Mar 2009
#5 ·
Grace Diaz76 said:I also hope that the constant off-topic tangents and arguments about the American economy won't start happening in the emigration threads again.

The diaspora section is a lower-traffic subforum and it’s very strictly moderated—well, when it actually gets moderated at all.

The mods don't really participate in the discussions, or if they do, it's minimal. You, Grace Diaz76, you don't seem to be participating in the conversation so much as acting like a cop, showing up just to drop written warnings in bold letters.

Off-topic? So what? Wherever there’s a conversation, there are going to be tangents. If an off-topic subject is actually interesting, a moderator should probably step in and spin it off into its own thread so people can actually keep talking.
Arguments about the American economy in an emigration thread are... what? Something weird?
I mean, most people are part of the emigration movement because of the American economy in the first place. To act surprised that those topics come up in the diaspora section? I guess they should be guided, corrected, shaped—given a chance to voice opinions, debate, and settle things—but no, Grace Diaz76 has spent years treating the diaspora section like some sterile vacuum where both new and old emigrants are only supposed to talk about, I don't know, vacations or hotel services.

There should be a bit more awareness of what the American diaspora has actually been over the last twenty years. Where people go, why they leave, the kind of people involved, their struggles, their motivations. And how the internet can serve new emigrants, and how this forum plays such a massive role in exchanging opinions, recipes, and nostalgia.

Showing up on threads just to hand out penalties isn't really what moderation is for. The general vibe in that subforum is one of emptiness and confinement—as soon as anyone starts talking (and people in the diaspora speak differently because their lives and circumstances are different from the rest of the forum), if it isn't exactly how the moderator wants it, the conversation gets stifled. Wouldn't it be better to guide it? Or correct it?

We can discuss that way of talking if we want. I'm not saying it's always pleasant, and I'm not saying it's always right—politically or ethically speaking. But emigrant lives aren't always pretty either.

The diaspora is specific, and I think it should be treated as such.

Grace Diaz76, why are you even a moderator for the diaspora section? I'm asking in good faith.
Amanda Wilson10 Amanda Wilson10 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Jul 2014
#6 ·
About ten years ago, the diaspora was such a vibrant, bustling forum filled with endless people, deep discussions, and shared life experiences. Then, the moderators decided to go ahead and tear it all down. And honestly? Mission accomplished. Bravo to them, I guess. 👋
Chris Myers Chris Myers Member
47 messages
joined Apr 2019
#7 ·
It's true, maybe nothing much even happens within the diaspora and emigration.
stormylynx4 stormylynx4 Member
49 messages
joined Mar 2006
#8 ·
Chris Myers said:True. There’s basically nothing happening over on the diaspora and emigration boards.

It's hard for anything to gain momentum when we're all split up by state lines. There isn't really a common thread that lets people living in different parts of the country actually talk, because any attempt at conversation gets flagged as "off-topic" or "chatting," which is against the rules. People tend to steer clear of places with heavy-handed restrictions, so everyone just gave up on that PDF.
Laura Rivera3 Laura Rivera3 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Mar 2009
#9 ·
Bans, locked threads—it happens way too often here. Here’s a perfect example of how a thread gets shut down and how they talk to users:

I mean, why couldn't the moderator have been just a little more helpful? What’s the harm in saying, 'Hey, we already have a thread about Germany, so I'm going to move your post over there so someone might actually answer you. Good luck.'
Why leave people with the impression of—I don't know—just "get lost, you're not welcome"? Maybe she did move the post, I didn't check, but honestly, this was enough for me to get the point.

And here's another one:

Since when does the tone of a message involve threatening bans just because of two posts about Walmart and some grammar issues? It's like they don't even care to understand the context behind why people were talking
about it in the first place.
Look, nobody said being a moderator for the diaspora was going to be an easy gig. There are tons of people hanging around who are asking questions, just killing time, feeling frustrated, or maybe just unhappy with the state of things back home—they're looking for conversation, advice, whatever. If you aren't ready for that, I guess why bother being a diaspora moderator at all?

At the end of the day, the members make the subforum. Maybe they should try to actually understand the kind of people they're dealing with—their traits and quirks—so they can moderate in a way that's actually pleasant. You know, like what the word "moderate" actually means, rather than just playing heavy-handed cop with a baton.

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