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Complaint against the Zebra Technologies moderator

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Participants Aaron Barrett6mistymoose57vividgull3slysailor4placidgardener99Brian Mitchell44Jerry GarciaTyler Bishop56ambermason16Kyle King4Rachel Sullivan2redmarlin3Jesse Allen2Raymond Sanchez7darkeagle5feralpilot0Roger EvansHannah Davis18granitewolf6Rebecca Cruz51driftingeagle25Jonathan Sanchez3
Aaron Barrett6 Aaron Barrett6 MemberOP
20 messages
joined Jun 2009
#1 ·
I’m officially filing an appeal against this mod because they are being straight-up biased, which is the exact opposite of what a moderator is supposed to do. They’re out here letting their own PDF cosmetics thread turn into a total circus of insults, yet anyone who dares to push back or even just agree with them gets slapped with a warning or a card. It's ridiculous.

Someone like this shouldn't be running the show. Rules are supposed to apply to everyone equally, but somehow they magically bend whenever it benefits them.

I’m really hoping some of you guys have my back on this appeal.
mistymoose57 mistymoose57 Member
37 messages
joined Sep 2006
#2 ·
I'm standing by this. I'd appreciate it if an admin could step in and deal with the trolls, insults, and constant mockery here... ☕
vividgull3 vividgull3 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Feb 2009
#3 ·
I’m definitely on board with this. I was just browsing through that "other subforums" thread, and honestly, it felt pretty insulting. In my opinion, having Tilla acting as a moderator is a massive, unfortunate misstep for the community here.👎
slysailor4 slysailor4 Newcomer
1 message
joined Apr 2009
#4 ·
I was being reasonable because I respect Innocent, but honestly, Square doesn't deserve to moderate anything on this forum. 👎
placidgardener99 placidgardener99 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Dec 2012
#5 ·
Until the mod realizes this PDF isn't her own personal playground where she can just sit back and cheer on her little favorites while they troll, insult, and stir the pot, she’s missing the point. Once she understands that no single post should go unpunished—and that quoting someone shouldn't be a one-way ticket to getting banned—then maybe we can talk about whether she actually belongs in a moderator role.
mistymoose57 mistymoose57 Member
37 messages
joined Sep 2006
#6 ·
"Lincoln" shut down the thread without actually dealing with the trolls or the users who were attacking 👎
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Brian Mitchell44 Brian Mitchell44 Member
48 messages
joined Feb 2006
#7 ·
Just to throw my two cents into the ring—if we’re really going to start sanctioning Innocent, then why stop there? Why not go after every other troll cluttering up this space? 🙄 👎
Jerry Garcia Jerry Garcia Member
28 messages
joined Jan 2009
#8 ·
This thread is closed because there’s nothing left to say. In my opinion, it just stayed open far too long 😉

Just because the thread is locked doesn't mean those who were insulting others, trolling, or breaking forum rules won't face consequences. I have no idea where people got the idea that closing a thread acts as an amnesty for everything that happened inside it...
Tyler Bishop56 Tyler Bishop56 Member
43 messages
joined Dec 2007
#9 ·
Stupidity is totally in the eye of the beholder, so calling a thread stupid isn't really much of an argument. I mean, we all have those specific PDFs out there that we think are absolute garbage.

Look, Till is a human being just like the rest of us, and he’s got a right to his own opinion, even if he is the moderator. That doesn't mean his personal take should mess with the rules that apply to everyone equally—but I won't get bogged down in that debate; there are enough objective people here to figure out what the truth is, just the truth and nothing else. 😉

If you just take a quick look at those controversial posts from tennis ball and Innocent, it’s pretty obvious that the insult from the ball-related one was just implied, whereas the innocent explicit one was straight-up blatant.

Now, I know some people want to start handing out warnings for jokes over in the chicken coop (ladies, didn't the name of that PDF practically scream that things might get a little messy and feathery in there?), but honestly, that’s not just foolish, it’s pathological. Especially since some of us actually view this as a sport, and sports are noble pursuits, regardless of what anyone thinks. Not everyone grew up on Bambi; some of us don't mind a little venison now and then. Let them eat.

Based on all that, I think warning and banning Innocent was way more unnecessary than it needed to be (especially considering the young lady stood her ground against those multi-pronged verbal attacks in the middle of that hostile chicken coop 😁), just like how banning anyone on that intentionally ridiculous PDF is a bad move.

My humble opinion? We're all our own harshest critics anyway, so institutionalized punishment doesn't make much sense under the stars, except maybe when dealing with truly disturbed individuals.

Honestly, I'm looking forward to seeing different subforums clashing again; it brings people together and keeps the conversation moving. I just hope next time there are even more people with opposing views, the language gets a bit rougher, and the warnings stay non-existent.

Love, Grandpa, 👋
Aaron Barrett6 Aaron Barrett6 MemberOP
20 messages
joined Jun 2009
#10 ·
Tyler Bishop56 said:...

Look, if Till hadn't pulled that stunt, nobody would be whining and there wouldn't be any talk about handing out sanctions to everyone else involved. 😉

We're all just human beings here, sure, but the rules on this forum apply to everyone equally. Period. If an Innocent user can get banned, then a ball-related incident counts too... and honestly, maybe the moderation needs a reality check, and Till could probably use a much-needed vacation because she clearly needs one.

I honestly think most people are gonna end up agreeing with me on this one... the rules have to be the same for everybody. 😉
ambermason16 ambermason16 Active Member
213 messages
joined Apr 2009
#11 ·
Total bullshit.

Look, I’ll start with a disclaimer: I haven’t even read the specific thread in question. But claiming that Till is a bad moderator? That is a massive miss. You guys are completely losing the plot... just look at what you wrote above.

I’m standing my ground on this, and I’m basing it on several years spent on this forum, both alongside Till as a fellow user and observing her work as a moderator.

So, seriously—cut out the drama. Even if everything you're saying about this thread is true, it's hardly a national tragedy. Someone made a mess of a topic. Boo-fucking-hoo. Grow up! ☕
Kyle King4 Kyle King4 Active Member
68 messages
joined Oct 2009
#12 ·
Now it's the mod vs. the women's corner 🙏😁...not that I'm taking sides here

You can't be a moderator and just some regular person on this forum at the same time. It's impossible. 🤷

Oxygen, thanks for getting back to me 😁
Tyler Bishop56 Tyler Bishop56 Member
43 messages
joined Dec 2007
#13 ·
Karen Ward85 said:Look, if Till hadn't done what she did, nobody would be complaining and we wouldn't be looking at sanctions for everyone else involved either. 😉

We're all just people here, I guess, but the rules on this forum are supposed to apply to everyone equally... If a ban can be lifted for someone who was Innocent, then it should apply to the tennis ball too... And honestly, maybe with the way things are being moderated lately, Till could use a little break. It's pretty obvious she needs one.

In my opinion, she’s actually one of the better moderators we have, though I know I'm biased—not like it's my call to make anyway.
She might act a bit cocky sometimes, but hey, that's part of her charm. Personally, I'd much rather deal with actual humans than some programmed robots.

Isn't it more productive to focus on lifting bans instead of just trying to throw everyone in jail? 😉
Rachel Sullivan2 Rachel Sullivan2 Member
21 messages
joined Oct 2009
#14 ·
Bullshit... seriously 😳

Till pretty much dropped her "manifesto" almost immediately 🤣 alright fine.. you can insult each other.. just try to do it with some class
which we obviously accepted without a second thought because that’s basically our standard operating procedure here 😁
Personally, I think the ladies over in the women's corner didn't handle the situation too well regarding the cosmetics issue, so now they're either trying to force this whole "love everyone" vibe on us or telling us we need to grow up 😳

C'mon

Coming at us telling us to stop gossiping, trolling, talking trash, and to finally act our age 😕 while offering us nothing but peace and love 😕

What kind of logic is that? 🤷

The only people getting penalized are the ones who were actually insulting someone, and frankly, they had every right to
Comparing an innocent explicit comment to "insulting" a tennis ball is just pure stupidity, if you ask me.. even if there are some tiny nuances involved, I might have understood where she was coming from, but I don't
Innocent doesn't even seem to know what she was trying to prove to us and honestly, she just lost the plot a bit
Making drama over absolutely nothing ☕
redmarlin3 redmarlin3 Active Member
132 messages
joined Apr 2010
#15 ·
ambermason16 said:That’s why you all need to cut out the drama. Even if this specific thread hits close to home—it's not some freaking tragedy. Someone just trashed the topic. Boo-hoo. Grow up! ☕

Exactly. People were getting dragged in a negative light across several subforums: Fashion, Movies, Music, Weddings, Pregnancy, Parenting, Men's Corner, Cars... even the girls over in the Women's Corner were being called ugly more than a few times. And then there was other stuff too. 😍

It’s pretty funny how it was exclusively the crowd from Cosmetics who felt insulted and rushed into this thread, which basically just proves the original poster's point.

Anyway, that controversial post about the tennis ball was already dealt with by the admins, so I figure this whole thread has served its purpose for anyone looking for justice.
As far as Till goes, I have zero complaints regarding his moderation of this thread or anything else, really. 🙂
Jesse Allen2 Jesse Allen2 Member
23 messages
joined Nov 2008
#16 ·
Till is definitely the reason I’ve stopped reading this garbage that the Women's Corner has turned into 👎 I also don't get these posts from people who act like they're best friends with Till 😕 what does any of that have to do with the topic at hand? If you love her so much, just take her home and leave the moderation to someone actually sane. It seems like there isn't a single subforum without some moderator terrorizing the users. Instead of cutting down on moderators who clearly don't belong here, we're stuck with this mess where nobody knows what's going on. Honestly, just remove Till because, I swear, she's completely lost it! 🙂
Brian Mitchell44 Brian Mitchell44 Member
48 messages
joined Feb 2006
#17 ·
Lisa Martinez82 said:Just because a thread gets locked doesn't mean everyone who was insulting people, trolling, or otherwise breaking the site rules gets a free pass. I have no idea where people get this notion that closing a discussion acts as some kind of universal amnesty for everything that went down inside it.

Oh, I see. So that's how it works then. 🙂
Raymond Sanchez7 Raymond Sanchez7 Member
23 messages
joined Aug 2008
#18 ·
I have been reading through several threads regarding this controversial subject, and I find myself siding with Till.
While what lollatutu and others have argued within the cosmetics and fashion section—and indeed across various other subforums—might seem somewhat exaggerated at times, there is an underlying grain of truth to it. The reality is that the truth often stings because it can be quite brutal; furthermore, we frequently see certain self-important individuals package that very truth as a personal insult, only to recoil in indignation when they are met with pushback.😉
These kinds of discussions serve as a profound opportunity for much-needed self-reflection...
Rachel Sullivan2 Rachel Sullivan2 Member
21 messages
joined Oct 2009
#19 ·
Lisa Taylor said:Tilla is the exact reason I don't even bother reading this trash anymore. 👎 And honestly, I don't get why people who are buddies with Tilla are posting here... 😕 what does that even have to do with the actual topic? If you guys like her so much, just take her home, but let a sane woman moderate this place. There isn't a single subreddit or forum out there without some mod terrorizing the users instead of actually helping. Instead of cutting down on useless mods, they're just letting random busybodies run the show. Seriously, get rid of Tilla because, I swear to God, that woman is absolutely unhinged! 🙂

Oh please... we're just supposed to sit here and take this? ☕
Just like all the other insults thrown at us in this thread... 😳

How is it "not related to the topic"?
Get a grip, seriously. You're starting a freaking witch hunt against a woman just because a cat that wouldn't stop meowing finally got banned... oh, the humanity! 🙄
Anyone who’s actually active here every day knows exactly how Tilla handles moderation. 😕
It's already been said, though... it's totally typical that it's these specific people causing a scene. It just goes to prove everything mentioned in the original post.
darkeagle5 darkeagle5 Member
20 messages
joined May 2008
#20 ·
redmarlin3 said:Exactly. Other subforums—Fashion, Movies, Music, Weddings, Pregnancy, Parenting, Men's Corner, Cars... they’ve all been targeted in a negative light here—while the ladies over in the women's corner have been called ugly more times than I care to count. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. 😍

It is quite fascinating, really—how exclusively the crowd from Cosmetics felt personally attacked and rushed to this thread, effectively proving the original poster's point by reacting exactly that way.

For what it's worth, the controversial comment about the tennis ball was already handled by the admins, so I suspect this entire discussion has served its purpose for anyone looking for some semblance of justice.
As for unknown's moderation—both here and across the board—I have absolutely nothing against it. 🙂

Well put..
Cheers..

This site is meant to be a laid-back corner of the internet for messing around and occasionally cleaning up the chat..
Tilla is an excellent moderator, and alongside unknown, she isn't biased..

I have to wonder if you ladies actually know the difference between harmless banter and straight-up insults using slurs..

Take, for instance, the girls who mentioned they post in Cosmetics or Fashion; looking back, there wasn't a single insult directed at them—aside from that bit about tennis balls—certainly nothing abusive coming from the regular users here:

Innocent is firing on all cylinders

Innocent is firing on all cylinders, round two

Look at the irony—being called "crazy old women" and yet nobody bothered to fire back with an insult. Bravo, everyone.👍

The mermaid is calling us names now

And then you have people who didn't get insulted themselves, so they go and open a whole new thread to play the victim..
Good grief..🙄🙄🙄

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