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Dealing with schizophrenia episodes?

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Participants feralmaker5driftingnomad68Casey Palmer5Bradley Fisher20copperridge912Kenneth Hernandez67granitewalker21Larry Cruz51AKenneth Hill37Eric Garcia90shadowgardener12Brian Moore2swiftmaker20
feralmaker5 feralmaker5 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Is there a psychiatrist or someone else in here who can help me make sense of this? On August 11th, I had this insane, heavy episode. It went like this—I was getting into an argument with my mom, and then everything just went black. I lost all control. All I know is that I threw her out of her chair, started grabbing at her, and punching her in the face. Just this massive, overwhelming explosion of rage. Right in the middle of it, I felt like I was literally falling apart... like I was tearing at the seams. Every memory and every feeling just merged into one single point: nothingness. I don't remember every detail, just that my legs gave out and I collapsed on the floor. Then I started hitting myself, slapping my own face until I was bleeding, slamming my head against the wall... crying, begging for someone to just kill me... I was foaming at the mouth... I grabbed a piece of metal and started beating myself with it, then tried to choke myself with a belt... My mom just stood there crying... After about ten minutes of thrashing around on the floor in total agony, I somehow managed to calm down enough to sit up. I was still foaming, spitting in my mom's face, hurling the worst insults at her... My dad wanted to call 911, but she wouldn't let him. It took an hour before I finally settled down, just completely drained. How do you even describe an episode like that? Will it leave lasting damage? I feel like I'm not even the same person anymore after it happened...
driftingnomad68 driftingnomad68 Member
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joined Sep 2005
#2 ·
Check your PMs
Casey Palmer5 Casey Palmer5 Regular
470 messages
joined Jan 2016
#3 ·
What you’re dealing with sounds a lot like Baron Munchausen syndrome. I honestly don't know if there's even a real cure for that...
driftingnomad68 driftingnomad68 Member
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joined Sep 2005
#4 ·
Casey Palmer5 said:What you’re dealing with sounds like Baron Munchausen syndrome. Honestly, I’m not too sure if there's even a cure for that kind of thing.

I mean, I really doubt this guy is telling the truth, honestly...

http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33858
Casey Palmer5 Casey Palmer5 Regular
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#5 ·
That sounds like a classic case of pathological lying to me...
feralmaker5 feralmaker5 NewcomerOP
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#6 ·
Look, it's the truth. So just try to answer... and if you don't know, then just don't...
Bradley Fisher20 Bradley Fisher20 Active Member
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joined May 2005
#7 ·
That’s clearly an epileptic seizure. You can tell by the foaming at the mouth. Seriously, that’s where we get the whole expression "acting like a foaming idiot" from... it describes that exact state, just in a slightly milder way that pops up all the time when things go south.

So how do you treat epilepsy? Easy. Just swallow your spit during the seizure so you don't start foaming. 😁
copperridge912 copperridge912 Member
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joined Apr 2007
#8 ·
Man, he’s out there starting the exact same threads over on the AT&T forums too👎 👎
his handle is Whitch Partizan over there
Kenneth Hernandez67 Kenneth Hernandez67 Regular
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joined May 2005
#9 ·
It’s easy for you people to mock someone who's actually suffering.😉

Hey, feralmaker5, I’ve got connections in the psych ward if you ever decide to go down that road...
feralmaker5 feralmaker5 NewcomerOP
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#10 ·
Looks like nobody has a clue....
granitewalker21 granitewalker21 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2003
#11 ·
What you just described sounds like pure psychosis.

I’m not even going to bother digging into an analysis of it.
Larry Cruz51 Larry Cruz51 Active Member
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joined Jun 2008
#12 ·
The guy is a notorious liar.
He’s always starting threads about all sorts of twisted stuff... he even goes as far as making suicide threats, then suddenly claims he’s got this disease, then that one... honestly, the man seems a bit schizophrenic, and frankly, he’s a predator who’d target little girls.
Someone needs to hit him with a ban... or a slap in the face.
A Anonymous Veteran
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#13 ·
Look, man, this sounds like it could most likely be Borderline. And regarding that seizure you mentioned—it doesn't necessarily mean you have epilepsy. Sometimes things just trigger one another. A seizure can sometimes point toward a mild form of epilepsy, or it could just be a physical reaction to something else entirely (I honestly have no clue what that "something" might be). Plenty of people actually experience seizures due to alcohol, even in small amounts. It’s also possible you had a momentary lack of oxygen to the brain, which can cause extreme agitation and tension. That’s what leads you into that B.L. headspace... where you don't even recognize yourself, feeling like you weren't truly in control or having no memory of what you actually did. If this happens again, please don't just brush it off by saying, "I'm just sick." Go see a psychiatrist as soon as possible. The sooner you get professional help, the better off you'll be. Focus on talking through this as much as you can.
Kenneth Hill37 Kenneth Hill37 Member
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#14 ·
Over on the Spirituality subforum, specifically in the thread about "Life Energy and Sex," I’m detailing some actual experiences from people who have dealt with these kinds of intense episodes.
I'll be posting a description of a similar episode shortly.
It’s quite a long story—one of those things you can't just slap a clinical diagnosis on and call it a day.
So, if you're interested, go ahead and read.
Larry Cruz51 Larry Cruz51 Active Member
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joined Jun 2008
#15 ·
Kenneth Hill37 said:I’ll be sharing a description of a similar episode shortly...

For those interested in reading along, please, feel free.

Whoever wants to read...

it will follow soon enough....
Eric Garcia90 Eric Garcia90 Member
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joined Apr 2004
#16 ·
Casey Palmer5 said:What you’re describing sounds like Baron Munchausen syndrome. I’m honestly not sure how treatable that actually is.

No, that isn't quite what we're talking about here. Baron Munchausen syndrome is usually when a parent actually harms their own child—you know, going to the hospital and acting all distressed or pretending they don't understand why the kid is sick just to get attention. There have been horrific cases where mothers have actually poisoned their children or broken their bones just to see them treated.

Epilepsy isn't anything like that kind of illness.

Like Bradley Fisher20 mentioned earlier, this really does sound more like Borderline to me.
Casey Palmer5 Casey Palmer5 Regular
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#17 ·
I have to disagree with you there, Eric Garcia90.

http://www.merck.com/mrkshared/mmanu...er185/185d.jsp
Eric Garcia90 Eric Garcia90 Member
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joined Apr 2004
#18 ·
I think we both have a point here.

Pastano's link says this:

Munchausen syndrome by proxy is a bizarre variant in which usually a child is used as a surrogate patient. The parent falsifies history and may injure the child with drugs or add blood or bacterial contaminants to urine specimens to simulate disease. The parent seeks medical care for the child and always appears to be deeply concerned and protective. The child is often seriously ill, requires frequent hospitalization, and may die.

I really should have listened more closely when the doctor was explaining how this works.
A Anonymous Veteran
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#19 ·
Look, it’s most likely Borderline. From what I’ve gathered about the mental health system here in the States, psychiatrists can be pretty rushed—sometimes they’ll give you five minutes instead of an hour just to get through the queue. There are a million reasons why that happens (we could start a whole separate thread on that), but the result is often just handing out a handful of pills to keep a patient quiet and easy to manage. That’s incredibly discouraging when you’re actually looking for real support, but I really hope you find someone who will actually sit down and listen to you. Ultimately, though, it comes down to you. Don't put all your faith in medication alone. Don't plan on being tethered to a prescription for the rest of your life; you're young, and there is so much room for growth and change. If a doctor prescribes something, take it—but make sure you base your recovery on actual conversation. Communication is everything. Don't push people away or criticize them before you've even given them a chance to truly get to know you. Don't retreat into your own world thinking there's no way out, because isolating yourself is the fastest way to stay stuck. Stop trying to play psychologist and figure everything out on your own; if you need help, or if you feel like your self-control is hitting zero, just admit it. I’m no expert, but this doesn't sound like schizophrenia to me. However, be careful: if you isolate yourself and start building these bizarre personal philosophies because you feel like "nobody understands," you might find yourself spiraling deeper and deeper until you're caught in a loop so complex it eventually gets labeled as schizophrenia. So, take a leap of faith and go after the help you need. Making that move will be the smartest thing you ever do. Good luck!
A Anonymous Veteran
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#20 ·
Parents, please take these words to heart because they really matter: you have to acknowledge that your son is struggling. What happened shouldn't have ever occurred, so instead of brushing it off or denying it, step up and support him. He can't navigate this alone—it would be infinitely easier if you were right there in the trenches with him. It takes a massive amount of energy and courage, but please, just do it.

If I were the parent in this situation, I’d honestly call 911 immediately.

Going to therapy solo isn't always enough. Often, a psychiatrist will actually reach out to the rest of the family to get everyone in the room for a joint session—and honestly, that’s highly recommended.

Take care,

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