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Dorian Gray, I need one more thing...

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Betty Taylor37 Betty Taylor37 MemberOP
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joined Nov 2014
#1 ·
@Dorian.Gray
You claim the mods of the subreddits I used to write for don't want me back. Personally—and I’m probably not the only one here—I think the bare minimum they could do is actually explain why.
Ignoring an appeal is clearly just how this "administration" lets you know they don't want you on the forum. This is apparently their standard way of communicating with users; though, I haven't seen anyone else get ignored quite like me. It's been half a month and not a single mod has bothered to write a single sentence.

In the end, Tyson from the football section chimed in, and I've already mentioned his lack of "objectivity" regarding my forum history. Beyond that, I still maintain the guy doesn't understand basic football concepts, evidenced by posts like
Tyson said:I'm not so sure. Despite the common belief that a playmaker is just some guy standing in the center distributing balls every few steps, these players actually cover massive mileage to create space for themselves and others. On the other hand, Messi—even now, physically in his prime—runs below average, so the question is whether he could adapt to such a role. Modern football is moving away from one-dimensional players; in five years, no team will be able to afford a midfielder who doesn't run and defend.

Look, my dear Tyson, a playmaker or an attacking midfielder doesn't just stand "in the center"; they "float" between the midfield and the attack. That is their operating zone. That is the type of play Messi would perform. There are others, like Xavi, who operate more deeply.
The core qualities of a playmaker playing behind the forwards are vision, creation (the final pass), shooting, technique, and spatial awareness. In those roles, the amount of running—especially intensity—isn't the key factor. Their primary job is breaking the defensive line, and their secondary job is building play alongside the midfield.
Wingers and central midfielders are the ones where running distance is the most significant factor; surely you know that.

But whatever, I won't go on. This isn't a professional journal, and apparently, the moderator here is a football enthusiast who thinks the bolded text above defines a playmaker.

@Dorian, before you lock this thread, please tell me: is this how the mods/admins usually communicate? Like, when a banned user opens a thread and gets ignored for 20 days without any explanation as to why they aren't welcome back in the sub (and obviously, if they had actual arguments, they would have spoken up; the truth is I was perfectly civil in those subs and gave them no reason to act, so there's no "material" to use against me😉)? So, a user can get banned, but they can't get a valid explanation for why they can't post on the forum again?😁
No one from the sports or hobby sections spoke up except Tyson. As far as he's concerned, I find him pretty biased in my case because we've had our fair share of debates on the NFL boards before, and I feel like he has a bit of a vendetta against me. Actually, it bothers me that he's the only one who stepped in. If it were up to me, he'd be the last person I'd want deciding on my ban.

That's all I want to know. Before you close this, please tell me: am I the first case where someone appeals a ban and gets ignored for 20 days with zero response, or is this just the standard protocol for mod-user communication? Before I leave this site for good, I'd appreciate an answer.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
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joined Apr 2011
#2 ·
Eric Booth67 said:I still say that if someone doesn't grasp even the most basic fundamentals of football, they really shouldn't be posting stuff like that.

Look, I know this is a total tangent and honestly has absolutely nothing to do with what you originally asked for, but I just had to say it!

Eric Booth67 said:Dorian, before you go ahead and lock this thread down, I’ve gotta ask—is this really how things usually work with the mods and admins around here? Like, is it normal for a banned user to start a new topic only to be met with twenty days of total silence from the staff? I mean, they haven't even given me a single reason why they won't let me onto the PDF. Honestly, if they actually had some valid arguments against me, I know they would've reached out without any hesitation. It’s just that I was being perfectly respectful during those PDF sessions and didn't cause a single issue, so it feels like they don't even have any real "material" to justify what they're doing. 😉)? So, let me get this straight—a user can get slapped with a ban, but then they can't even get a straight answer or a valid explanation as to why they're being blocked from posting on the forum again? Seriously? That just feels incredibly shady to me. 😁

Look, once you’ve been banned, the reason behind it has already been laid out for you. Nobody is under any obligation to come crawling back later just to explain why they aren't interested in lifting your ban. If someone does decide to reach out and give you an explanation, that’s purely a gesture of goodwill on their part—it’s definitely not a requirement. Especially when we're talking about someone who's been permanently banned from the forum; they don't have a right to demand a private, one-on-one breakdown from everyone regarding why they're being kept off the platform.

Maybe the reason you aren't getting any replies isn't because people are ignoring you, but because there’s simply nothing much to say—it's not like anyone has anything particularly sweet or comforting to offer, nor is there really anything to push back against. Have you ever considered that? Honestly, every single time you pop up on here, even the mods start questioning whether they actually want you back around. I mentioned this to you before, how your responses just sort of blend together, and look, ignoring someone can also be read as the moderators being totally fed up with your whole persona and just deciding they've had enough of dealing with you.

Eric Booth67 said:It feels like nobody else has stepped up to weigh in on the whole nuts-and-bolts situation with the football stuff and general recreation besides Tyson. To be totally honest, I find him pretty biased when it comes to me; we’ve had our fair share of debates over on the NFL forums in the past, and I can’t shake the feeling that he’s got a bit of a personal grudge against me. It actually bugs me quite a bit that he’s the only one who bothered to speak up on my behalf—if it were up to me, he’d be the very last moderator I’d ever want making a call on whether I get banned or not.

Look, Tyson is the moderator for that forum you're citing, and he’s one of those guys who actually took the time to reach out and tell you exactly what he thinks. You can have whatever opinion you want about him, but at the end of the day, he's the one calling the shots—and more importantly, he was the only one willing to engage with you directly. Instead of addressing his points, you just immediately pivot to claiming he "doesn't understand football," which honestly has zero bearing on your actual grievance. It feels like a total attempt to discredit him just because you two clashed back when you were arguing over the NFL. If my memory serves me right, you seemed to have a falling out with pretty much every single moderator on every forum you've tried to get back into. I'm starting to suspect the common denominator here might actually be you.

Eric Booth67 said:That’s really all I want to know—before you lock this thread, please just tell me if I’m actually the first person ever to file a ban appeal only to be completely ignored by the mods. It’s been 20 days and there hasn't been a single word from anyone. Is this just how communication works here between the staff and the users? Before I decide whether to walk away from this forum for good, I’d really value an answer from you.

Let me be crystal clear: you weren't "ignored" during the times you actually needed an answer, back when you were still an active member or dealing with a temporary suspension. Your penalties and bans were explained to you clearly enough. You don't get to claim you're being ignored now. Once you've earned a permanent ban and the reasons behind it have been laid out, you don't have any further right to demand explanations. Anything the mods choose to say or explain to you after that point is purely out of their own kindness.

You've asked to have your permanent ban lifted several times now. Every single time you've brought it up, I've gone out of my way to reach out to the moderators on our private channels to get their take on those documents you keep citing, even though I could have easily just shut this thread down and told you that your case was settled the very day the ban was handed down. Some mods mentioned they won't stop the process of keeping the ban in place; they said they'll just keep an eye on your behavior, noting they had already tried to find common ground with you before the ban happened. Most of them are firmly against lifting it because they simply don't want you back on their specific sub-forums. Others have decided they don't want to comment on your situation at all anymore. Not one person has come forward to say that you've been constructive or helpful enough to warrant a return, which is what you keep insisting. If the only way we could justify lifting the ban would be to guarantee you'll be partially banned from almost every sub-forum where you used to be active, then there's really no point in bringing a user like you back to the community.
William Bennett53 William Bennett53 Regular
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joined Sep 2016
#3 ·
adminica already weighed in, but since my name is in the title, here’s my two cents. I’ll essentially be saying the same thing, just more concisely. 😉
The reasoning behind your permanent ban was explained when you were banned. You aren't the only one who tries to spark a debate about their own permanent ban every single time they ask for it to be lifted. Where would the moderators even begin if everyone had to weigh in every time someone requested a reversal? Then Tijs steps in to give his take, and you decide he isn't an expert on football; then I step in, and suddenly you're demanding someone from the NFL staff show up too... It won't happen, and there is simply no need for everyone to offer their input yet again. If you look back at your previous threads where you insisted on these exact same points, you might realize that people aren't going to come back every few months to repeat the same arguments to the same person.
Over and out.

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