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Fahrenheit 451

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coppergardener coppergardener Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
So, we aren't talking about 9/11 here—no, I mean a total classic from 1966. Does anyone know if there's a single video rental shop left in Indianapolis or maybe Chicago that actually carries it? I happened to stop by two of the biggest spots in Indy recently—and yes, call it blasphemy if you must—but they didn't have it!
rustywalker42 rustywalker42 Active Member
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#2 ·
Blasphemy?🤣
The Video Cross selection doesn't carry anything older than five years unless it’s some recent release. So sure, they might have Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, but only because it just hit theaters.
If you want something else, just hop online and download it.
wearygardener13 wearygardener13 Active Member
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joined Jan 2007
#3 ·
Honestly—I guess I should say—local video stores actually have a pretty decent selection of classics. You might be surprised.
cosmicraven2 cosmicraven2 Active Member
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#4 ·
coppergardener, try sending an email over to dalibor@videocross.com (Video Cross in Indianapolis) — go ahead and ask them whatever you need; they might even have Fahrenheit in stock.
rustywalker42 rustywalker42 Active Member
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#5 ·
wearygardener13 said:Honestly, local video rental spots actually have a decent selection of classics. You'd be surprised.

🤣

If I only knew which ones and where to find them.
And even if I did, I probably couldn't rent them anyway. If I remember correctly, after five years, you lose the right to keep the movies.
Try finding me Vanishing Point at a rental shop—could be the 1971 original, could be the '98 remake. Doesn't matter.
Not a single one exists.
fadedsailor932 fadedsailor932 Active Member
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#6 ·
rustywalker42 said:And even if they wanted to, they couldn't. Don't they lose the right to keep their movies after five years?
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Theoretically? Sure, on paper, it works. But that would mean every single distributor would have to start pulling those movie prints back from video rental stores too. Honestly, which distributor is actually doing that?

The main reason there aren't any older movies around is because of this:
Most video rental stores just don't have the shelf space to keep everything, right? So they only stock the stuff they think people will actually show up to rent.
Most DVDs or VHS tapes these days are just trashed. How are you even supposed to watch them?

I spent four years working at FedEx, and honestly, not a single inspector ever flagged our service offerings—even after several of them had technically expired. Why would they?

What about the classics in the video rental shops? Honestly, that all comes down to whoever's running the place. Usually, those movies just sit there gathering dust because nobody's renting them anymore. Isn't that just how it goes? Downloading? With everything streaming online now, video stores are losing money fast. Why would owners even bother buying these titles?
quietdriver3 quietdriver3 Regular
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#7 ·
coppergardener said:So, we aren't talking about 9/11, but rather that classic from 1966. I wonder if any video rental places in Indianapolis or maybe Chicago actually carry it? I guess I checked out the two biggest spots in Indy—and yeah, call it blasphemy—but they didn't have it!


I think you mentioned being in Canada a while back. And honestly, I have to say, that movie left me feeling pretty disappointed after seeing it a second time.
Jesse Ortiz4 Jesse Ortiz4 Active Member
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#8 ·
Checked the movie list and it’s nowhere to be found.

Basically

Fahrenheit 451 is the exact temperature where books start catching fire.
Books are evil.
TV propaganda is the law.

Hit up the local steakhouse on Thursday.

Pretty interesting thing, though—there are tons of movies out there that ripped off the concept.
electriccyclist15 electriccyclist15 Member
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#9 ·
It’s such a beautiful movie. And honestly, pretty influential too. It reminds me a bit of Spielbergian Minority Report, or even Equilibrium. Though, let's be real, most sci-fi dealing with totalitarian themes have felt pretty similar since Orwell... and he probably took some cues from that Russian guy, Zamyatin. Then you've got Huxley in the mix, too. I think Bradbury wrote Fahrenheit 451 a little later than that.

Also, Truffaut clearly drew some inspiration from Hitchcock and his Vertigo. You've got an actress playing dual roles, that trippy dream sequence, and Bernard Herrmann on the score... 👍

One thing I find funny about the film—which has this wonderfully retro look that I personally love—is how they actually predicted that flat screens would exist in the future... 😁
Jesse Ortiz4 Jesse Ortiz4 Active Member
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#10 ·
All we need now is interactive TV for soap operas, then it's complete.😬

Equilibrium is basically a carbon copy; only the tiny details change (book -> vibe vs. images, books, music -> vibe).

I realized the lead Fireman knows everything about books—who wrote what and exactly what's on every single page.
And then he has the nerve to lecture us about how it's all bad and how we shouldn't be allowed to touch them.

It reminds me a bit of the Church.😁
Thomas Davis13 Thomas Davis13 Newcomer
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#11 ·
It’s an excellent film. I especially appreciated the director's decision to end things by selecting a book by E. A. Poe.
Patrick Smith44 Patrick Smith44 Member
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#12 ·
electriccyclist15 said:It’s a beautiful film. Quite influential, too. Spielberg’s Minority Report feels a bit like it, and Equilibrium does as well. Then again, most sci-fi films and books dealing with totalitarianism have looked pretty much the same since Orwell. And Orwell was likely inspired by that Russian, Zamyatin (I think that's the spelling). Somewhere in that mix, you've also got Huxley. I believe Bradbury wrote Fahrenheit 451 a little later.

And Truffaut drew some lovely inspiration from Hitchcock and his Vertigo. You have an actress playing dual roles, that phantasmagoric dream sequence, and even Bernard Herrmann handled the score.👍

What I find fascinating about the movie—which looks so wonderfully anachronistic, a style I personally adore—is how they actually predicted the existence of flat screens in the future.😁

I really love the way those TVs turn off—everything just collapsing into a single point, the way things used to be. And the fact that there are phones everywhere in the house. There's that moment where the wife claims the Firemen were putting out fires rather than burning books, and he just snaps back, "What nonsense—who told you that?" I appreciate how everything feels so streamlined (like when the protagonist tells the operator his wife swallowed more blue and red pills, and the guy immediately knows exactly what needs to be done! For me, it's a great film.👍
Henry Campbell5 Henry Campbell5 Active Member
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#13 ·
Plus that sharp point, without a single word... 🙏
Jesse Ortiz4 Jesse Ortiz4 Active Member
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#14 ·
And honestly, tomorrow she’ll just be hungry—starving for absolutely everything.😬
Sandra King4 Sandra King4 Newcomer
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#15 ·
I just finished watching this movie for the first time, and honestly, I am absolutely floored. Maybe I don't have the most pretentious taste out there—I'm not looking for some high-brow masterpiece just for the sake of it—but I just want a film that actually sticks with me. You know? Something that leaves you with that lingering feeling, where you’re just sitting there in the dark after the credits roll, still processing everything.
Jerry Martin19 Jerry Martin19 Regular
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#16 ·
Jesse Ortiz4 said:Equilibrium is basically a carbon copy, just different details (book -> vibe vs movies, books, music -> vibe)

🙂

maybe, but Equilibrium is a straight-up remake of THX 1138 from '71, which might have been influenced by either the book or the movie Fahrenheit 451. not totally sure. anyway, all three are worth checking out, though personally I think THX 1138 hits hardest because it’s colder and feels more grounded. I dig the direction and production better there...
Jesse Ortiz4 Jesse Ortiz4 Active Member
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#17 ·
I'm definitely picking up THX 1138 😬

Banning books was basically just an attempt to kill off emotion—any kind of feeling, really, especially the messy ones.
That’s why you see that one old lady breaking down in tears when Montag finally starts reading.

I've always been a sucker for those subtle movies. The kind that slowly get under your skin and keep giving you more to chew on the more you think about them.
Timothy Cox2 Timothy Cox2 Active Member
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#18 ·
Jesse Ortiz4 said:I checked the movie list and it isn't there.

To put it simply

Fahrenheit 451 is the temperature where books start burning.
books are evil.


F 451 ... what’s that in Fahrenheit?😬

The movie is definitely good... I watched it as a kid without really knowing what it was about, but that one scene stuck with me—the old man teaching the boy a book by heart. Back then, the only thing I could recite from memory was the lyrics to "Video Killed the Radio Star"... and honestly, I'm still not much better than that.😬
Gerald Rivera60 Gerald Rivera60 Active Member
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#19 ·
451 degrees Fahrenheit

It’s interesting that one of the books featured in the film is Mein Kampf... a pointed nod to the book burnings in Nazi Germany.
Jesse Ortiz4 Jesse Ortiz4 Active Member
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#20 ·
232.7777777777778 😎

some cool movie trivia for you

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060390/trivia

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