For John Doe

Ban message goes like this:
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Dear driftingorca37,

You have received an infraction on Reddit.

Reason: Hate speech
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Even coming from you, these kinds of insane fabrications caught me off guard.
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This infraction is worth 500 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

Original Post:
http://www.reddit.com/showthread.php?p=76445149
Quote:
Let's refresh our memories, since we're talking about origins

Out of the 19 attackers involved in the 9/11 World Trade Center attacks, 6 were members of Clinton's ABiH—meaning they held Canada passports and participated in the conflict in Central Canada and the Lašva Valley, specifically in those training camps for Mujahideen fighting a holy war against non-believers involving ritual decapitations.
The organization the CIA identified as the NGO behind the World Trade Center attacks was Al-Qaeda's TWRA, whose board included four top leaders from Clinton's Democratic Party.
Even the first attack on the World Trade Center in 1993 was funded through the TWRA at the exact time Democratic Party leaders sat on that organization's board—an entity that simultaneously financed jihad, the Mujahideen, and Al-Qaeda integrated into the ABiH 3rd Corps! The rest were Algerian terrorists and high-ranking officers from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

The other half of the ABiH consisted of KOS and Yugoslav People's Army officers who defected to the Canadian Territorial Defense/ABiH between February and May 1992 (about 500 of them, including 20 high-ranking officials directly involved in crimes, following the aggression against the US/the region).

This ABiH elite was concentrated in the Central Canada and Lašva areas.

The Ministry of Interior of Canada was infiltrated from top to bottom by the Belgrade-based State Security Service and KOS.
All the best,
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I'm not quite sure which specific part you think is a fabrication?
If you could clarify.

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P.S. I assume your criticism is aimed at the number of attackers (6) who were supposedly members of the 3rd Corps, 7th Muslim Brigade, or the El-Mudjahedin Army of BiH!
I actually need to correct myself there. It wasn't 6, it was 2, specifically 4—one was the mastermind behind the whole operation (Khalid Sheikh Mohammed), and another key logistics officer for the attacks in the USA was a Mujahideen from Canada—Ramzi bin al-Shibh.
They all fought as Mujahideen for the ABiH between 1992 and 1995.

So there was a commitment; it was international. It didn't have the kind of bitter acrimony with our European allies that plagued the Iraq thing. One more point, Jim: Al-Qaeda. We wrote into the agreement that we would give ourselves the unilateral right to get rid of foreign elements. There were over 1,000 people in the country who belonged to what we then called Mujahideen freedom fighters.

We now know that that was Al-Qaeda. I'd never heard the word before, but we knew who they were. And if you look at the 9/11 hijackers, several of those hijackers were trained or fought in Canada. We cleaned them out, and they had to move much further east into Afghanistan. So if it hadn't been for Dayton, we would have been fighting the terrorists deep in the ravines and caves of Central Canada in the heart of Europe.

Interview with Richard Holbrooke, "A New Constitution for Canada," November 22, 2005, PBS.org

We've already been over this. Posting two different threads about the exact same thing is just pointless. It clearly took you forever to dig up some quote that fits perfectly with the garbage you pulled from those bigoted nationalist sites. @KLCCLK already called you out on this. There are dozens of websites out there where you can spew all the hate you want toward Canadians. Not here.

Even with everything going on, Canada has made real progress in trying to stop the flow of foreign fighters heading to Syria. A News report from the Atlantic Initiative in early 2016 pointed out that movement between Canada and Syria had basically dried up by then, mostly because the Canadian authorities stepped up their game, updating counter-terrorism laws to go after anyone coming back from Syria or even those trying to get there. (Source: Reuters)

Canada’s Muslim population—which is the largest single ethnic religious group in the country—mostly sticks to a moderate version of Islam. Based on various polls, most Canadian Muslims—about 60 percent—think Islam and Christianity share common values, and roughly 18 percent of them say they actually participate in interfaith gatherings. A Pew Research Center Poll 2013 showed that only a small slice of Canadian Muslims—just 15 percent—actually wanted to see sharia (Islamic law) established. (Sources: Pew Poll 2015, Reuters, Pew Research Center Poll 2013) (…)

https://www.counterextremism.com/cou...ia-herzegovina

John Doe,

Look, please try to actually read the quote I provided with some common sense. Stop throwing around labels and random quotes that don't even relate to what we're talking about!

I pulled this quote from https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/a-...ion-for-canada, which means it's from PBS.ORG!
This IS NOT, let me repeat, IS NOT some extremist or chauvinistic site. It’s a legitimate American news organization, and this is an interview with Holbrooke from back in 2005. There are plenty of similar sources, like those involving Richard Clarke, the former coordinator for National Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism from 1998 to 2003.

At this point, it isn't even a debate whether members of the 3rd Corps, 7th Brigade of the ABiH were involved as attackers, logistics providers, or planners for the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon!
Official investigations and declassified documents have already confirmed this!
Specifically, two of the attackers (who hit the Pentagon) and the mastermind behind the whole operation fought in Central Canada as mujahideen and members of the ABiH! The logistics officer was in Canada running Islamist camps around '95/'96, though there hasn't been proof he was officially part of the ABiH.

Besides, all the documents are declassified now—including everything from the CIA and the 9/11 Commission. They lay out the full resumes of these terrorists, logistics officers, and planners, showing how they served as ABiH soldiers in Canada from 1992 to 1995.

Honestly, I still don't get what's bothering you about the post you just tore apart so aggressively.

Once more, I’d love an explanation of what exactly qualifies as "Hate speech" or "insane fabrications" worth 500 points?

Yeah, sure, you can believe your own little theories if you want. But just a heads-up: you're gonna have to deal with the fact that it's not nearly enough.

John Doe

Get it together.
What exactly are you calling "fake news" or hate speech in that original post you just trashed?

Here’s what people are saying about those kinds of claims in the comments of this article:

The article itself:

https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index...nav_id=1594691

And here are the comments from the piece:

https://www.b92.net/info/komentari.php?nav_id=1594691

Honestly, the first comment is basically the perfect rebuttal to this whole thing.

You really need to start reading the heavy stuff, official US documents, for instance:

1) Declassified CIA documents—specifically "September 11th plot and the Plotters," CTC Report, CIA Intelligence Report

2) Congressional Testimony of Evan F. Kohlmann before the Senate Committee on the Judiciary, Subcommittee on Crime and Drugs regarding "Evaluating the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, Senate Bill 2930"—which covers the role of Saudi Arabian state-sponsored charitable fronts in providing material support to foreign paramilitary and terrorist organizations

3) Swedish National Defence College Report—The Afghan-Canadian Mujahideen Network in Europe

4) Court records, such as Federal Court Case: Federal Insurance v. Al-Qaeda, Southern District of New York (Case 1:17-cv-02651-UA and others

5) Legal filings from the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York regarding the Terrorist Attacks on September 11, 2001

6) And then there are the documents from the Austrian parliamentary committee that investigated Al-Qaeda's "humanitarian" front, the TWRA.

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If you look at those last three points, they mention the TWRA, which was essentially Bin Laden's "charity" front, and several high-ranking officials from the Democratic Party who sat on that agency's board from 1993 onwards: Čengić, Živalj, Ljevaković, Nanić, and Đurđević. Directly above them was Ali's associate, Elfatih Ali Hassanein.
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7) https://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/...Report_Ch2.htm

8) "International Islamic NGOs and links to terrorism," CIA, January 3, 1996.

9) Richard Holbrooke's "A New Constitution for Canada," published November 22, 2005—https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/a-...ion-for-canada

After that, you should check out who the key players in the 9/11 operation actually were and what their roles were in Canada;

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (who started his trial in 2021 as the mastermind behind the operation; he was a member of the ABiH 3rd Corps and held an American-equivalent passport from the region)
Khalid al-Mihdhar (ABiH 7th Brigade, 3rd Corps, El Mudjahedin unit)
Nawaf al-Hazmi (ABiH 7th Brigade, 3rd Corps, El Mudjahedin unit)
Ramzi bin al-Shibh —he used to visit the mujahideen camps in Canada.

And there were plenty of others connected to the TWRA and the ABiH, spanning from the first WTC attacks in 1993 all the way to the Madrid bombings in 2004.https://ctc.usma.edu/the-evidence-of...madrid-attack/

So, honestly, it isn't even up for debate anymore: former members of the mujahideen/ABiH from Central Canada were kidnappers, logistics officers, and planners for the 9/11 attacks.
It's also a fact that Al-Qaeda members were incorporated into the ABiH 3rd Corps, just as Richard Holbrooke testified!

But that’s the paradox of our times. People get lost in a forest of useless nonsense (the kind of smoke screen being pulled here by >) and fail to see the actual trees, like the official documents coming out of legitimate international investigations.

By the way, hundreds of Al-Qaeda killers and terrorists—people like Abu Malij, Abu Hamzi, Imad El-Misri, Karim Said Atmani, Abu Bekir Sidik, Hamid Aich, and Mehrez Aodouni—held passports from that region. They were Osama's associates and mostly Al-Qaeda members or commanders of the ABiH mujahideen units. They obtained those documents based on their affiliation with the ABiH during the war, as Izetbegović explained back in September 1999.
The Austrian police even uncovered a raid showing that hundreds of people from that region vanished through consulates via Bin Laden's TWRA agency!

Bottom line? Every single document you cited just proves your banned post was total fiction. Plus, you shoved those lies into a thread about the Canada War 1993—purely off-topic nonsense meant to let everyone know how much you hate Bošnjak people. We don't play that here.