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Participants Gary CarterChloe Gray86crimsonsailor7Brian Edwards6Brenda Cook4Angela Cox4Lisa Doyle32Ryan Wilson2William Gonzalez3crimsonbison82Nicholas MyersChris Williams
Gary Carter Gary Carter MemberOP
11 messages
joined Mar 2012
#1 ·
Why do moderators delete posts on certain forums when they aren't even off-topic, spam, or fluff, but actually part of the discussion? For instance, look at the thread by Philosopher—two of my posts were just wiped out. They were direct answers to the OP's questions, not random chatter, spam, vulgarity, or trolling. I didn't even get a notification explaining why they were removed. I guess there's no logic to it. 😕
Chloe Gray86 Chloe Gray86 Member
10 messages
joined May 2010
#2 ·
I really don't want to start yet another thread titled "Deleted Posts," but I feel compelled to file my own little grievance here.😉

I participate in discussions across all the various sub-forums without any issues whatsoever. However, over on the Law forum—specifically within the thread regarding Foreclosures—I've run into a problem where my posts are being removed simply because my opinions happen to clash with the majority view. The moderator, crimsonsailor7, is framing this as "trolling" and claiming I'm acting condescendingly. Yet, in a private message, she tells me, quote: "you're just talking nonsense and I have no idea if you're even qualified in this field..." end quote.

It makes me wonder: do the rules apply to the moderators just as strictly as they do to us regular users?

My posts were scrubbed from the Foreclosure thread, while I'm being accused of trolling in threads about Police Conduct and Misdemeanor Law—though nothing has been deleted there (I assume someone else handles those specific sections).

The only thing that might explain this particular moderator's behavior—given that her private message seems to reference how I addressed her—was a post of mine where I offered some friendly advice. I suggested she be careful with her statements so as not to mislead the person asking the question; I believe I did so in a perfectly polite and civil manner.

If someone is unable to separate their professional duties from their personal emotions and ego, perhaps they shouldn't be holding the position in the first place.
crimsonsailor7 crimsonsailor7 Active Member
214 messages
joined May 2010
#3 ·
Chloe Gray86 said:but then she turns around and hits me up in my DMs saying stuff like: "you're just talking nonsense and I honestly don't know if you actually know what you're talking about..."

You’re totally taking things out of context here, which doesn't really hold much water as an argument...😉

Chloe Gray86 said:but those weren't deleted (I'm assuming someone else is in charge of that specific region).

All the mods handle everything across the board. That post wasn't nuked because they wanted to prevent it from turning into another pointless off-topic mess like that one over in small-town Ohio...

Chloe Gray86 said:since she was referring to how I reached out to her in a private message...

That’s just not true, you're cherry-picking sentences again and only focusing on the parts that fit your narrative...😉 I've already told you a few times now that I wasn't even addressing her directly...
Brian Edwards6 Brian Edwards6 Active Member
112 messages
joined Nov 2015
#4 ·
Chloe Gray86 said:… while I’m being accused of trolling on this thread regarding police conduct and misdemeanor law...

Where, exactly, is anyone accusing you of trolling in this discussion?😕
Chloe Gray86 Chloe Gray86 Member
10 messages
joined May 2010
#5 ·
I suppose I should weigh in here. It seems everyone is quite certain about their positions, though I find myself wondering if we've actually looked at the underlying data. Not that I’m suggesting anyone is wrong—per se—but there’s a certain... shall we say, *velocity* to these arguments that feels somewhat unearned. Gary Carter mentioned something earlier regarding the fiscal implications, and while his point was noted, I can't help but feel he's overlooking the secondary effects on local infrastructure. It's like when you look at a major project in Chicago; everyone focuses on the immediate construction costs, yet nobody talks about the long-term strain on the transit systems. Chloe Gray86, you seem convinced that the regulatory framework is sufficient. Perhaps. But history tends to suggest that "sufficient" is a moving target. We saw this during the deregulation periods in the late nineties. It’s all very well to assume the current safeguards will hold, but stability is often an illusion we maintain for our own peace of mind. Anyway. Just some thoughts. Nothing revolutionary. kaže:
Where exactly is this coming from? Who on earth is accusing you of trolling in this thread?😕

crimsailor7 sent me a DM yesterday.

I would genuinely prefer if someone else reviewed my appeal, rather than the very individual I am filing the complaint against. Honestly, I don't see much point in the whole process otherwise.

I can back up everything I’ve said with hard evidence—actual saved messages and logs—so the moderators trying to soften my stance right now is, frankly, a pointless exercise. I stand by my posts and I take full responsibility for what I've written. It would be nice if the moderation team showed that same level of accountability.
Gary Carter Gary Carter MemberOP
11 messages
joined Mar 2012
#6 ·
Why not just settle this by forwarding the private messages to an admin if there’s actually a case for misconduct? I don't want to overstep, but crimsonsailor7 hasn't provided anything concrete or proven she isn't guilty of what she's being accused of. If someone holds a screenshot showing a moderator abusing their power, then sanction her—but only if she can't provide evidence to refute the claims, and then we should just let it go. Also, what is with the deletion of posts related to specific threads? It feels like some mods are just winging it. No offense intended, but I think there's a real issue with how certain files are being handled. 🙂

And look, I know I need to work on my own attitude. Sometimes I get the urge to be a bit stubborn, but I'll try to hold back. Love you all. 😍
crimsonsailor7 crimsonsailor7 Active Member
214 messages
joined May 2010
#7 ·
I was just sitting here thinking about how much everything seems to be shifting lately, and I couldn't help but wonder if anyone else feels that same weird tension in the air... It’s like we’re all just waiting for something big to happen, you know? I saw what Chloe Gray86 was saying earlier about the whole situation, and honestly, there's a lot of truth to it, even if it feels a bit overwhelming when you really dig into the details... It makes me wonder if we're actually moving toward something better or if we're just spinning our wheels in the sand while everyone argues about things that won't matter in five years anyway... anyway, just some late-night thoughts drifting through my head... kaže:
I was really hoping I could ask if someone else could take a look at my appeal, maybe someone totally different from the person I’m actually filing the complaint against... because honestly, I just don't see the point in having the same person review it when they're the one involved in the whole situation in the first place...

Look, I’m just calling out some total nonsense here. You’ve got every right to be pissed off and vent, but I’ve got just as much right to set the record straight when things get twisted... I guess we’ll just have to wait for the admins to step in and make the final call on this whole mess, and honestly, feel free to pass my PMs along to whoever needs to see them, but you better make sure you share yours too if we're being fair about it...

Chloe Gray86 said:Honestly, trying to tone down what the mods are saying right now feels pretty much pointless, if you ask me... it just doesn't change anything...

Look, I’m sorry, but it feels totally pointless when you take a little heads-up I gave you and twist it into something it absolutely isn't... especially when you start acting like I'm launching some kind of personal attack against you, which just isn't the case at all...
Brenda Cook4 Brenda Cook4 Regular
373 messages
joined Sep 2010
#8 ·
Gary Carter said:Why do mods delete posts on certain threads that aren't even off-topic chatter or spam, but actually part of the discussion? Take a thread about Philosophy, for instance—two of my posts were wiped out. I was just answering the OP's questions directly; it wasn't spam, it wasn't vulgar, and I definitely wasn't trolling. Plus, the moderator didn't even give me a heads-up as to why they were pulled. Hmm? 😕

Can you tell me which Philosophy thread you mean?
Chloe Gray86 Chloe Gray86 Member
10 messages
joined May 2010
#9 ·
crimsonsailor7 said:I’m just responding to inaccurate claims here. You have the right to make them, and I certainly have the right to push back. The admins will make the final call, and honestly, feel free to forward my PMs—just make sure you forward yours too.

Look, I’m sorry, but it feels pretty pointless to take a warning I gave you and twist it into something else, framing it as if I were attacking you.

Well, we’ll both just have to prove who's actually telling the truth.

I haven't mentioned anything about being attacked. I am simply laying out the facts: my posts are being deleted first for "trolling," then for "off-topic" content, all while being backed by this idea that I'm acting superior toward you and everyone else. I'm not quite sure who granted you the authority to decide what constitutes an attitude, especially when you're using phrases like "you're just talking nonsense."

I believe rights should be equal for everyone, not "more equal" than others.
Angela Cox4 Angela Cox4 Active Member
52 messages
joined Jul 2009
#10 ·
Brenda Cook4 said:Can you actually tell me which specific topic in Philosophy you're talking about?

Seriously, why'd you go ahead and nuked my last post? I was actually putting in the work to point out all those disjointed arguments that make understanding the problem of consciousness such a massive headache.

Give me back that post—I put MY OWN actual time and effort into breaking things down for you and everyone else who thinks ignoring reality is going to lead to anything good in the long run.
Lisa Doyle32 Lisa Doyle32 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Jan 2012
#11 ·
I’m jumping on the bandwagon to complain about posts being deleted from the Alternative/Astrology board without a single word of explanation. ☕
Ryan Wilson2 Ryan Wilson2 Regular
387 messages
joined Dec 2002
#12 ·
Lisa Doyle32 said:I’m adding my name to the list of people "complaining" about posts being deleted from the Alternative/Astrology subforum without any clear explanation provided in the guidelines. ☕

Don't make things up.

I sent you a private message explaining exactly why those posts were removed.
Lisa Doyle32 Lisa Doyle32 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Jan 2012
#13 ·
Ryan Wilson2 said:Don't make things up.

I sent you a PM explaining why your posts were deleted.

Ha. I'm making things up? I’ll drop a screenshot here proving exactly when I received that explanation—which was right after that post above (though honestly, I probably wouldn't have even gotten one otherwise). You didn't provide a legitimate reason for the deletion, which is why I'm filing an appeal. If this isn't the right place to do that, just point me toward the correct department.
William Gonzalez3 William Gonzalez3 Regular
276 messages
joined May 2009
#14 ·
Jacob Chase42 said:I was wondering why you deleted my last post—the one where I was really trying my best to point out how those disconnected arguments were making everything so much harder to follow. The problem of consciousness—it’s one of those deep, unsettling questions that seems to linger just out of reach, doesn't it? I guess we often take our own awareness for granted, but when you really start to peel back the layers, everything feels a bit more complicated. It's a massive, messy puzzle—one where even defining what "awareness" actually entails feels like a moving target. Maybe we aren't even looking at it from the right angle yet.?

Vrati mi post u koji sam He put in his own skin in the game—really went all in. I suppose I could spend my time—and frankly, quite a bit of effort—trying to explain this to you and others who think along similar lines, but I suspect it might be futile. It seems we're hitting a wall here. I guess what I’m trying to say is that simply choosing to ignore the facts isn't going to lead to a positive outcome in the long run—not now, and certainly not down the road.

The specific views held by your interlocutors—and how those problematic stances might be preventing them from reaching the actual truth—aren't really the subject of this discussion. Because of that, I went ahead and removed your post as off-topic, and I don't have any intention of restoring it.
Ryan Wilson2 Ryan Wilson2 Regular
387 messages
joined Dec 2002
#15 ·
Lisa Doyle32 said:Ha. Ja izmišljam? Pejstat ću tu screenshot da se vidi kada sam dobila objašnjenje a to je bilo upravo nakon ovog gore posta (inače ga vjerojatno ne bi ni dobila kao i prije). I u odgovoru nisi dao valjan razlog za brisanje posta pa i zato upućujem žalbu. Ako nije prikladno mjesto, uputite me na pravu adresu.

I didn't actually catch sight of this until after I had already sent you that private message.

I already pointed out that, as a general rule, we only strike posts that consist solely of listing planetary positions. As for that last post I removed—I deleted it because it was an appeal regarding moderator conduct on a topic that simply wasn't appropriate for this discussion.

What exactly is it that isn't working here?
Lisa Doyle32 Lisa Doyle32 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Jan 2012
#16 ·
Ryan Wilson2 said:I didn't even see this until after I sent you that DM.

And in that message, I explicitly stated that we usually only scrub the specific planetary positions. As for that last post, I deleted it because it was a complaint about moderator conduct on a thread where it didn't belong.

So, what exactly was the problem?

I’m talking about the post I made in the Q&A thread regarding Pluto and its aspects.
I listed my own natal planetary positions—specifically those involving Pluto and its aspects—and asked for an interpretation.
What part of that was unacceptable?
crimsonbison82 crimsonbison82 Newcomer
1 message
joined Mar 2012
#17 ·
Who can I reach out to about some posts? Looking to talk to a moderator... would really appreciate the help. Thanks...
Nicholas Myers Nicholas Myers Active Member
163 messages
joined Jan 2012
#18 ·
crimsonbison82 said:Who can I contact—a moderator, or someone regarding specific posts? I would be immensely grateful. Thanks!

To whom it may concern,

The Health section guidelines state the following:

"Posts and open threads are not deleted upon user request, except in exceptional circumstances involving highly justified reasons (for instance, the disclosure of private information such as full names, phone numbers, etc.).

We advise all our members to think carefully before posting; consider whether you might later regret sharing certain details publicly.

Subsequent requests to remove posts due to second thoughts or a desire to hide personal life details or medical conditions will not be granted."

The Health moderators have reviewed your request. We have reached a collective and final decision: unfortunately, we cannot grant it. Your post regarding "Epilepsy," which has already received responses, must remain.

Your only option at this stage is to create a new profile.

We haven't honored similar requests in the past, which is precisely why we added this clause to the guidelines. Furthermore, I should clarify that refusing deletion requests isn't unique to the Health section—despite the private messages accusing us of being the only ones who won't delete posts while other American forums supposedly do so without issue. You can read more about that note here.

Since it is clear you are dissatisfied with this outcome, the only remaining course is to wait for the site administration to weigh in on your request.

Best regards. 🙂

Sincerely,
Maria Fisher46
Ryan Wilson2 Ryan Wilson2 Regular
387 messages
joined Dec 2002
#19 ·
Lisa Doyle32 said:I am referring to the post I wrote in the Q&A thread regarding Pluto and its various aspects.
I listed my specific planetary placements—specifically those involving Pluto and its aspects—and asked for an interpretation.
I fail to see what more I was supposed to provide.

Rather than simply copying and pasting a mountain of both vital and trivial data, why don't you try condensing your thoughts into one or two coherent sentences?

If you take a look at that thread, you will see how people who actually lack any fundamental understanding of astrology phrase their inquiries.
Chris Williams Chris Williams Active Member
62 messages
joined May 2011
#20 ·
Regarding the Consciousness thread over in Philosophy, the moderator, executioner, keeps deleting my posts for reasons known only to him, without providing any explanation whatsoever. It isn't just me either; other users have already complained about this specific thread, and the executioner has been mentioned twice here for these exact same issues. Yesterday, he wiped out every single post, including mine, which were written between 10 PM and 2 AM—again, with zero explanation. If someone is going to moderate by constantly deleting content, I suppose they could at least reach out and explain how they think the discussion should actually be structured.

The subject matter is philosophically sensitive since it deals with two diametrically opposed explanations of what consciousness is, making the topic incredibly active due to those conflicting views. It seems this individual is simply purging any posts that don't align with his own perspective. I guess after that last scandal involving the moderators, it was stated that there wouldn't be any more unilateral moderation or forced interference in discussions without clear criteria or explanations.

Yesterday, I wrote several posts where I truly put in the effort—I mean, I really did my homework, searching online, providing statistics, citing sources, and explaining experiments—only for this guy to delete all of it, along with everyone else's comments in the discussion. There wasn't even a hint of trolling, off-topic rambling, insults, doxxing, or hate speech in them.

I am requesting through this forum that the executioner be cautioned and that the posts be restored. I’ve reported him to the senior moderators, but honestly, I don't know... maybe it isn't even worth writing this. I'm angry, so I suppose I'm writing this just to vent, even if it serves no practical purpose. I haven't exactly dedicated my free time to something this serious just to have some random guy delete it based on nothing. it appears he does it simply because he candelete the posts of anyone he disagrees with, which is pretty obvious from his comment right here in this thread.

your interlocutors and their problematic viewpoints which prevent them from reaching the truth are not the subject of this debate, so I deleted that post as off-topic and have no intention of restoring it.

"Problematic viewpoints," my foot. Those arguments have been part of philosophy since the beginning of time. It just so happens you disagree with them, so you manipulate the thread.

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