iMac
Started by darkmaker · · 👁 5 views · 91 replies
#2 ·
Honestly, looking at these specs for this price point, it's just underwhelming. For comparison, here is what you actually get for that kind of money:
1 x Asrock P67 PRO3-B3 - Intel P67, ATX, 4xDDR3 2133MHz, Gigabit LAN
1 x Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4GHz,1MB/8MB,95W,Socket 1155
1 x DDR3 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair, 1333MHz, 9-9-9-24, CMX8GX3M2A1333C9
1 x Gigabyte GTX 580 1536 MB GDDR5 384bit, 2xDVI+HDMI, PCI-X 2.0
1 x HDD WD 1Tb, 1002FAEX , SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB Cache, WD Caviar Black
1 x LG GH24NS, DVD±RW, 24x DVD±R ,8x DL , 40x CD-R
1 x XFX Core edition 80 750W PSU - EasyRail Technology 1 x SILVERSTONE Fortess FT01 Midi Tower ATX Mainboard Supported
1 x SILVERSTONE Fortess FT01 Midi Tower ATX Mainboard Supported
1 x CORSAIR Air Series A50, CPU cooler,Socket 775/Socket AM2/Socke
1 x Dell U2311H 23", 1920x1080, Pivot, 1000:1,10000:1,warranty: 3 years
1 x Logitech wireless desktop MK520, Advanced 2.4 GHz wireless
1 x Genius SP-T1200 Speakers, 2 satellites, 30W, silver, touch panel
$4424
That’s just an example. You could build something similar with an SSD too. That list includes everything: the PC, an IPS monitor, keyboard/mouse combo, and speakers.
And power-wise, this setup blows the competition out of the water. An iMac is much weaker, even if it looks pretty and sleek. Of course, the iMac comes with its own OS, whereas mine doesn't. But unless you already have licensed versions of Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 or other software, a licensed OS isn't worth much to you. If you already own those licenses, then it's worth putting absolutely everything into $4.50.
1 x Asrock P67 PRO3-B3 - Intel P67, ATX, 4xDDR3 2133MHz, Gigabit LAN
1 x Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4GHz,1MB/8MB,95W,Socket 1155
1 x DDR3 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair, 1333MHz, 9-9-9-24, CMX8GX3M2A1333C9
1 x Gigabyte GTX 580 1536 MB GDDR5 384bit, 2xDVI+HDMI, PCI-X 2.0
1 x HDD WD 1Tb, 1002FAEX , SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB Cache, WD Caviar Black
1 x LG GH24NS, DVD±RW, 24x DVD±R ,8x DL , 40x CD-R
1 x XFX Core edition 80 750W PSU - EasyRail Technology 1 x SILVERSTONE Fortess FT01 Midi Tower ATX Mainboard Supported
1 x SILVERSTONE Fortess FT01 Midi Tower ATX Mainboard Supported
1 x CORSAIR Air Series A50, CPU cooler,Socket 775/Socket AM2/Socke
1 x Dell U2311H 23", 1920x1080, Pivot, 1000:1,10000:1,warranty: 3 years
1 x Logitech wireless desktop MK520, Advanced 2.4 GHz wireless
1 x Genius SP-T1200 Speakers, 2 satellites, 30W, silver, touch panel
$4424
That’s just an example. You could build something similar with an SSD too. That list includes everything: the PC, an IPS monitor, keyboard/mouse combo, and speakers.
And power-wise, this setup blows the competition out of the water. An iMac is much weaker, even if it looks pretty and sleek. Of course, the iMac comes with its own OS, whereas mine doesn't. But unless you already have licensed versions of Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 or other software, a licensed OS isn't worth much to you. If you already own those licenses, then it's worth putting absolutely everything into $4.50.
#4 ·
Most software is clearly optimized for Nvidia because their tech is just ahead of the curve. If an iMac won't play nice with an Nvidia setup, then you just have to settle for whatever is offered when an iMac is your requirement.
The iMac is a necessity if you're already using an iPhone, iPad, iPod, or iVar—why wouldn't you?
If you want a high-end workstation, we can build you a beautiful case paired with stunning, larger monitors—you could even go with two. We also carry excellent, stylishly designed keyboards and mice.
The iMac is a necessity if you're already using an iPhone, iPad, iPod, or iVar—why wouldn't you?
If you want a high-end workstation, we can build you a beautiful case paired with stunning, larger monitors—you could even go with two. We also carry excellent, stylishly designed keyboards and mice.
#5 ·
I’ve been using a Mac for a little while now and I have to say, I’m quite fond of it 🙂...The thing I love about the iMac is how clean everything looks without a mess of cables; it’s just the monitor itself, rather than being tethered to some bulky, unsightly tower 😁...However, I wanted to reach out and see if the specs would actually hold up for video editing. I’d hate to invest in something that can’t handle the very task it was designed for in the first place. For my other daily tasks, I just rely on my laptop, so I’m looking for a proper desktop setup here rather than another portable machine
. As far as the screen goes, I did consider larger models, but they felt a bit overwhelming for my space; this size feels just right 🙂
. As far as the screen goes, I did consider larger models, but they felt a bit overwhelming for my space; this size feels just right 🙂
#6 ·
darkmaker said:I’ve owned a Mac for a while and liked it 🙂....I like the iMac because there aren't extra wires everywhere and it's just the monitor (without that ugly tower 😁)....but I wanted to check if it could actually handle video editing given the specs...I don't want to buy something that can't do what it was built for. For everything else, I have my laptop, so I'm looking for a desktop, not a new laptop...
As for the screen, I looked at bigger ones, but they were too massive for me....this size is just right. 🙂
It would work, sure, but with a desktop at that price point, you get much, much, MUCH faster and more efficient performance. Honestly, putting an hd5670 in a $13,000 computer is pathetic.
That "ugly tower" can look great; there are plenty of cases with attractive designs, and you can just slide it under the desk so it's out of sight. Or you can have wireless Logitech wireless desktop MK520 keys and mouse on your desk...whatever. Personally, I lean toward a PC, and that's just common sense.😁
#7 ·
You could basically just have a box inside another box
with a wireless keyboard, a mouse, and an LCD screen instead of a regular monitor
with a wireless keyboard, a mouse, and an LCD screen instead of a regular monitor
#8 ·
Nathan Reyes59 said:It’s trying to act like a radio or something, but when you look at a desktop setup at that price point—which is significantly faster and more efficient—an hd5670 inside a machine costing thirteen grand is honestly just pathetic.
A terrible case can always be made to look beautiful; there are so many chassis out there with attractive designs, and besides, you can just tuck it under your desk where it isn't visible. Having a Logitech wireless desktop MK520 sitting on top of the desk... well, it's your call, but my logic leans toward the PC, and that's what tells me what's sensible.😁
🙂🙂🙂
I had one of those boxes once and I couldn't wait to get rid of it... I ended up swapping it for a laptop in a heartbeat. My rational side tells me that for that kind of money, you could get something much better from another manufacturer, but my feminine intuition😁 says iMac😍
#9 ·
Check what it says about Premiere:
Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 requires a 64-bit operating system.
Supported NVIDIA graphics cards for GPU acceleration
GeForce GTX 285 (Windows and macOS)
GeForce GTX 470 (Windows)
Quadro 4000 (Windows and macOS)
Quadro 5000 (Windows)
Quadro 5000 m (Windows)
Quadro FX 3800 (Windows)
Quadro FX 4800 (Windows and macOS)
Quadro FX 5800 (Windows)
Quadro CX ATI
No ATI cards in sight... It would run on an iMac with an hd5670 because those cards have basic features like opengl2, but the cards listed above—plus any newer Nvidia cards—are practically built for this kind of software. They deliver significantly better results. Not to mention how much an SSD would speed up the workflow.
Don't listen to her logic; she's dead wrong here...
Look at this Dell. It has more tilt options than an iMac monitor and it's slightly larger. You could actually get two of them for that price. You could work on one while having another program open on the second, multitasking without constantly minimizing windows and all that.
I won't start listing pretty cases, since I don't know if you're just here looking for a blessing for an iMac, but I get the feeling you're already halfway hooked on whatever people say here 😁
Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 requires a 64-bit operating system.
Supported NVIDIA graphics cards for GPU acceleration
GeForce GTX 285 (Windows and macOS)
GeForce GTX 470 (Windows)
Quadro 4000 (Windows and macOS)
Quadro 5000 (Windows)
Quadro 5000 m (Windows)
Quadro FX 3800 (Windows)
Quadro FX 4800 (Windows and macOS)
Quadro FX 5800 (Windows)
Quadro CX ATI
No ATI cards in sight... It would run on an iMac with an hd5670 because those cards have basic features like opengl2, but the cards listed above—plus any newer Nvidia cards—are practically built for this kind of software. They deliver significantly better results. Not to mention how much an SSD would speed up the workflow.
Don't listen to her logic; she's dead wrong here...
Look at this Dell. It has more tilt options than an iMac monitor and it's slightly larger. You could actually get two of them for that price. You could work on one while having another program open on the second, multitasking without constantly minimizing windows and all that.
I won't start listing pretty cases, since I don't know if you're just here looking for a blessing for an iMac, but I get the feeling you're already halfway hooked on whatever people say here 😁
#10 ·
Nathan Reyes59 said:I won't bother listing examples of aesthetically pleasing cases just yet, as I can't tell if you're simply here seeking permission to pull the trigger on an iMac, though I suspect you've already made up your mind regardless of what anyone else suggests 😁
In truth, I have my heart set on that specific iMac, but I needed to be certain whether it could actually handle serious professional work; if it can't, I'll pass and wait for a model with better specs, even if waiting another year means delaying the purchase, because it absolutely has to be an iMac 🙂
By the way, I am fully aware that I am paying a premium for the design, and I am more than willing to allocate extra funds to ensure I don't end up buying another machine that I dislike and feel the urge to get rid of as quickly as possible...
#12 ·
😁
That design is clearly bothering you.
I see the same thing happening on the bike forums—people looking for recommendations, and some end up picking a ride based solely on looks, which is a mistake. It's the exact same story here. You spend a fortune on what ends up being a weak machine just because of the branding. That iMac from the link is a dual-core setup with a subpar graphics card. Even the RAM speed is underwhelming; I haven't seen much on the market slower than 1333 MHz, which is pretty much the baseline now, yet this iMac specs out even lower.
Too much hype, not enough substance. It should be different, but that's Apple for you—they charge whatever they want regardless.
If you were to build a custom PC that matched the specs of what iVar has, including a decent monitor, you'd probably top out at around $1667. Isn't $2667 a massive stretch? I'm just trying to steer you toward a sensible choice. If this machine is your livelihood and your productivity depends on it, you shouldn't be dropping $10,000+ on something unless it's fully capable of handling heavy-duty professional tasks.
In my opinion, Silverstone looks better.🙂
That design is clearly bothering you.
I see the same thing happening on the bike forums—people looking for recommendations, and some end up picking a ride based solely on looks, which is a mistake. It's the exact same story here. You spend a fortune on what ends up being a weak machine just because of the branding. That iMac from the link is a dual-core setup with a subpar graphics card. Even the RAM speed is underwhelming; I haven't seen much on the market slower than 1333 MHz, which is pretty much the baseline now, yet this iMac specs out even lower.
Too much hype, not enough substance. It should be different, but that's Apple for you—they charge whatever they want regardless.
If you were to build a custom PC that matched the specs of what iVar has, including a decent monitor, you'd probably top out at around $1667. Isn't $2667 a massive stretch? I'm just trying to steer you toward a sensible choice. If this machine is your livelihood and your productivity depends on it, you shouldn't be dropping $10,000+ on something unless it's fully capable of handling heavy-duty professional tasks.
Patrick Garcia4 said:Look how nice that case is...
Click me
In my opinion, Silverstone looks better.🙂
#13 ·
Out of all the Lian Li cases out there, why on earth would anyone pick the Armorsuit? 😁 I mean, Lian Li makes some truly stunning chassis, but this one just doesn't hit the mark for me 😁
Regarding the iMac... personally, I don't think the 21" version is worth the investment. It’s priced significantly higher than a comparable PC setup, and when you look at the screen size versus the actual specs, that iMac just doesn't justify the premium. To my mind, it feels more like a flashy lifestyle piece than a serious workstation. Now, the 27" model is a completely different story—if you opt for the i5 processor, the much beefier configuration combined with that absolutely breathtaking display makes those $2,500 feel worthwhile. That 27" IPS panel alone is worth the $1,000 price gap compared to a high-end professional PC if you actually know how to leverage that color accuracy...
(Keep in mind, we're talking about a machine that comes with its own OS. Using a fake version of Windows just feels unprofessional to me 😉 )
Regarding the iMac... personally, I don't think the 21" version is worth the investment. It’s priced significantly higher than a comparable PC setup, and when you look at the screen size versus the actual specs, that iMac just doesn't justify the premium. To my mind, it feels more like a flashy lifestyle piece than a serious workstation. Now, the 27" model is a completely different story—if you opt for the i5 processor, the much beefier configuration combined with that absolutely breathtaking display makes those $2,500 feel worthwhile. That 27" IPS panel alone is worth the $1,000 price gap compared to a high-end professional PC if you actually know how to leverage that color accuracy...
(Keep in mind, we're talking about a machine that comes with its own OS. Using a fake version of Windows just feels unprofessional to me 😉 )
#14 ·
I opted for the Armorsuit because it seemed straightforward; I felt it would integrate seamlessly into the space. It isn't some loud, obnoxious design—it possesses a certain classic quality.
#15 ·
darkmaker, what’s your take on THIS case... looks clean and white, just like the iVar. You grab specific components to fit this chassis along with an iVar monitor, plus a keyboard and mouse.
It's pricey. $2500 Even after that, I'm still looking at $5,500 just to build a rig in that case.
I feel like I'm wasting my breath here, but whatever, I've got the time.😁
It's pricey. $2500 Even after that, I'm still looking at $5,500 just to build a rig in that case.
I feel like I'm wasting my breath here, but whatever, I've got the time.😁
#16 ·
Design has always been a bit of a struggle for me 😁
It seems quite clear that Apple is trying to win over us women 😁
But I have no intention of buying something that looks beautiful yet performs poorly—nor will I settle for the reverse. Everything simply has to be right 🙂
By the way, I spent ages hunting for the right bike, and I finally found one that is absolutely perfect for me
It seems quite clear that Apple is trying to win over us women 😁
But I have no intention of buying something that looks beautiful yet performs poorly—nor will I settle for the reverse. Everything simply has to be right 🙂
By the way, I spent ages hunting for the right bike, and I finally found one that is absolutely perfect for me
#18 ·
Patrick Garcia4, I find that just as ugly and distorted... try looking at it from a woman's perspective.
darkmaker, so you actually have that track... wow 🙂 it costs as much as that Ivan... nice.
What do you think about that Phantom white case and playing around with the Ivan peripherals?

darkmaker, so you actually have that track... wow 🙂 it costs as much as that Ivan... nice.
What do you think about that Phantom white case and playing around with the Ivan peripherals?

#19 ·
Casey Long2 said:Regarding the iMac... personally, I find the 21" version to be a poor value proposition. It carries a significantly higher price tag than comparable PCs, and when you weigh the screen size against the internal specs, the machine simply doesn't justify the cost. It feels more like a stylistic statement than a serious workstation. However, the 27" model is an entirely different beast—the much beefier configuration (assuming one opts for the i5 processor) paired with that absolutely stunning display makes those $2,500 worth it. For a professional who can actually leverage it, that 27" IPS panel alone justifies the $1,100 premium over a high-end enthusiast PC...
(Keep in mind, we are discussing a machine that comes with its own OS. I've never found fake Windows setups to be a professional way to work 😉 )
I looked into that myself initially, but the screen was just too massive for my setup... I've worked on larger displays before and they never quite felt right, so I opted for something smaller instead...
I asked if there was a 27'' version available with those exact specifications but featuring a 21.5'' screen... unfortunately, that isn't an option and can't be ordered because they don't manufacture them that way... and frankly, a 21.5'' screen is just the right size for me...
@Nathan Reyes59 --> I'm not particularly fond of it, mainly because I'm trying to avoid dealing with a bulky tower 😁
I actually have this at home—well, my parents do... after Apple, this is the best-looking thing I've seen, but it still doesn't quite hit the mark for me 😁
@Patrick Garcia4 --> Not at all 😲
#20 ·
By the way, I realize many guys find it difficult to grasp why a woman might insist on aesthetic design even when it comes to tech specs. 😁 For me, white is always the dominant choice in everything I own...
The last device I hunted for was a Samsung Wildfire, and I refused to pull the trigger until I finally tracked down the white version. 😍
My boyfriend is a software engineer, and he honestly can't wrap his head around the fact that I don't care about custom PC builds or switching to some off-brand manufacturer just for the sake of it. He’s eventually given up on trying to convince me otherwise. 😁
The last device I hunted for was a Samsung Wildfire, and I refused to pull the trigger until I finally tracked down the white version. 😍
My boyfriend is a software engineer, and he honestly can't wrap his head around the fact that I don't care about custom PC builds or switching to some off-brand manufacturer just for the sake of it. He’s eventually given up on trying to convince me otherwise. 😁
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