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Is the customer always right?

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electrictiger21 electrictiger21 NewcomerOP
6 messages
joined Jun 2009
#1 ·
Look, none of us enjoy being treated unfairly—it’s just human nature. But it does make you wonder, doesn't it? Is the customer truly always right, and honestly, how should someone working on the front lines handle it when things go sideways?
Here’s a scenario for you:
Imagine a customer walks into a grocery store to return a loaf of bread. Their complaint? It isn't salty enough. They simply don't want it. The clerk tries to be helpful, offering a full refund or maybe swapping it out for a different brand, something else they might actually like. But the customer isn't interested in either option. The employee basically just rolls with the punches—they apologize on behalf of the bakery and themselves, offering money back or an exchange... but nothing seems to hit the mark. The customer just keeps making a scene, doubling down on that old mantra that the customer is always right!
So, I wanted to get your thoughts—is the retailer actually at fault here every single time, or do customers sometimes just let their own frustrations boil over and take it out on the person who's stuck being polite?
And hey, if I posted this in the wrong section, my bad—definitely didn't mean to clutter things up.
cosmicsailor11 cosmicsailor11 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Feb 2009
#2 ·
I’m having a hard time following your logic here—what is this Customer actually looking for? They aren't asking for a refund, they don't want a fresh loaf, and they aren't looking for an apology... 😁
electrictiger21 electrictiger21 NewcomerOP
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joined Jun 2009
#3 ·
I honestly couldn't make heads or tails of it either. Everything this guy was throwing at the Customer just wasn't hitting the mark—nothing he offered seemed to satisfy them. And the whole time, he’s just leaning on this guy, making all these empty threats about bringing in the federal inspectors, while the other man is practically shrinking back, over-apologizing for everything. It would have just kept spiraling like that, too, if an older lady from the congregation hadn't stepped in and told him she'd handle it herself. $3.25 Honestly, I just wish they’d let a person actually do their job without breathing down their neck every five seconds. It's exhausting when you're just trying to get through your tasks and there's constant interference—it really kills the workflow.
That’s really what I'm getting at—do you guys honestly think the customer is... It really is always like that, isn't it? Just happens every single time. Am I right?
brightnomad22 brightnomad22 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2009
#4 ·
It’s a rare thing when the Customer is actually right, but in this particular instance, I think we can all agree the Customer is just being a total moron who hasn't the slightest clue what they actually want... though, at the end of the day, isn't it just important that they have something to grumble about?
lonetiger52 lonetiger52 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2012
#5 ·
brightnomad22 said:It’s a rare thing when the Customer is actually right, but in this particular instance, I think we can all agree the Customer is just being a total moron who hasn't the slightest clue what they actually want... though, at the end of the day, isn't it just important that they have something to grumble about?

Look, in this specific scenario, it’s probably a good thing the bread was moldy. At least you found something tangible there. If you find a bug in the loaf, fine. But claiming it's "unsalted"? That's ridiculous. Maybe someone else finds it too salty... honestly, who can please everyone?
The Customer is being an idiot. Personally, I wouldn't even bother arguing with someone like that; let them call whoever they want. You just have to ignore people like that entirely.

P.S. Since when was bread supposed to be salty?? I don't think I've ever noticed that in my life.🤷
restlesscrane152 restlesscrane152 Active Member
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joined Apr 2023
#6 ·
There's this one solid business rule—the Customer is always right, sure, but that doesn't give them a free pass to act like a total jerk.
Gregory Williams7 Gregory Williams7 Active Member
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joined Mar 2014
#7 ·
A customer is only as right as the money they spend. For those measly $2.25, he would have been kicked out of the store long ago.

He is simply frustrated and looking for someone to pick a fight with for no reason. If he had actually paid full price for that bread, $3333 maybe they would have apologized or compensated him. As it stands, they would just throw him out onto the street and ban him from ever returning.
lonetiger52 lonetiger52 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2012
#8 ·
Gregory Williams7 said:A customer is only as right as the money they spend. For those measly $2.25, he would have been kicked out of the store long ago.

He is simply frustrated and looking for someone to pick a fight with for no reason. If he had actually paid full price for that bread, $3333 maybe they would have apologized or compensated him. As it stands, they would just throw him out onto the street and ban him from ever returning.


Actually, quite the opposite. It doesn't matter at all how much you paid for something. As a Customer, I expect my money back regardless of whether the item cost five cents or $1.75. Provided, of course, there’s a legitimate reason for the complaint.
Gregory Williams7 Gregory Williams7 Active Member
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joined Mar 2014
#9 ·
He claims he offered a full refund, but the customer just wanted to be toxic. He didn't want the money back. He didn't want a fresh batch of bread. He didn't even want a replacement. He simply wanted someone to lash out at.
I would personally kick a person like that out of the company. If my livelihood depended on them and they paid their bills regularly, I would have to endure it. Suppose we are talking about a major client worth $10 million a year to the firm. But if some petty individual comes to me once a year for a service costing $333, where my travel expenses actually exceed the fee, and starts lecturing me on my billing practices? I would tell him never to call again. As for the money he owes me, he can use it to pay for his wife's haircut at 😉
Lawrence Torres56 Lawrence Torres56 Active Member
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joined Feb 2015
#10 ·
Gregory Williams7 said:A customer is only as right as the money they spend. For those measly $2.25, he would have been kicked out of the store long ago.

He is simply frustrated and looking for someone to pick a fight with for no reason. If he had actually paid full price for that bread, $3333 maybe they would have apologized or compensated him. As it stands, they would just throw him out onto the street and ban him from ever returning.

Nah, hold up—the customer is always right, which doesn't mean the clerk is the one at fault, but rather whoever is running the show above them. Especially with stuff like this, whether it costs a single buck or $333 it really doesn't matter; what's pocket change to some people might be a huge deal to others, like a hundred bucks versus
a whole paycheck.
Why wouldn't that clerk just call over their manager instead of letting this guy talk circles around them?
Ronald Palmer9 Ronald Palmer9 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2008
#11 ·
But what happens when retailers just hit their breaking point and start taking it out on the customers? I've actually seen it happen firsthand.
Gregory Williams7 Gregory Williams7 Active Member
144 messages
joined Mar 2014
#12 ·
Well, this is unfortunate... what good is a merchant being a predator if they’re still calling you "sir" while they're swindling you? We aren't even discussing the same thing here.

But what if... what if everything changes?
casualmarlin25 casualmarlin25 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2009
#13 ·
A customer is only justified if their grievance is actually grounded in logic and reason. In the specific case you mentioned, I wouldn't have even entertained that customer's complaint to begin with; they clearly just wanted some extra attention rather than actually caring that the bread lacked salt.

Every single corporation needs to establish clear protocols defining exactly when a customer is entitled to a return and precisely what that remedy looks like—whether it’s a straight exchange, a full refund, a partial credit, or some hybrid combination of product and cash.🙂

Only then can you be absolutely certain that any competent retailer will handle a given situation appropriately... that's my advice.😁
Keith Taylor4 Keith Taylor4 Active Member
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joined Aug 2004
#14 ·
lonetiger52 said:Look, in this specific scenario, it’s probably a good thing the bread was moldy. At least you found something tangible there. If you find a bug in the loaf, fine. But claiming it's "unsalted"? That's ridiculous. Maybe someone else finds it too salty... honestly, who can please everyone?
The Customer is being an idiot. Personally, I wouldn't even bother arguing with someone like that; let them call whoever they want. You just have to ignore people like that entirely.

P.S. Since when was bread supposed to be salty?? I don't think I've ever noticed that in my life.🤷

It’s always been that way. Unsalted bread is just incredibly bland...
Adam Nguyen11 Adam Nguyen11 Member
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joined Feb 2010
#15 ·
Of course they aren't always right, but let’s be real—they’re in a much better position than the clerk. When you're working for someone else, you're stuck trying to protect both your own job security and the store's reputation, all while dealing with those obnoxious, nitpicky customers who know exactly how to exploit the system. It’s a mess; the law sets one set of rules, the manager sets another, then there's what the customer demands, and at the end of the day, the clerk is the one caught in the crossfire, expected to somehow satisfy the legal requirements, the boss, and the customer all at once. It’s a pretty helpless spot to be in. Customers can sense that vulnerability, too, and they often push just for the sake of being difficult—even when they don't actually know what they want, like this guy in the bread example. He was clearly just having a bad day and felt the need to drag someone else down with him. Sometimes, simple human spite and rudeness just override everything else, including consumer rights in a case like this...
casualmoose63 casualmoose63 Member
10 messages
joined Jan 2008
#16 ·
Adam Nguyen11 said:Of course they aren't always right, but let’s be real—they’re in a much better position than the clerk. When you're working for someone else, you're stuck trying to protect both your own job security and the store's reputation, all while dealing with those obnoxious, nitpicky customers who know exactly how to exploit the system. It’s a mess; the law sets one set of rules, the manager sets another, then there's what the customer demands, and at the end of the day, the clerk is the one caught in the crossfire, expected to somehow satisfy the legal requirements, the boss, and the customer all at once. It’s a pretty helpless spot to be in. Customers can sense that vulnerability, too, and they often push just for the sake of being difficult—even when they don't actually know what they want, like this guy in the bread example. He was clearly just having a bad day and felt the need to drag someone else down with him. Sometimes, simple human spite and rudeness just override everything else, including consumer rights in a case like this...

Hehe... I'm with you on this... the real question is whether you can actually train or reshape your staff to think that way. It really comes down to whether you hire someone with a good head on their shoulders. You have to train the ones you have, because every new hire is eventually going to adapt to the environment they're dropped into...

And as for the customers... oh man, yes... you get some absolute gems!!!! 😁

Look at the environment: either you have highly trained employees (and even then, you're never 100% certain), or you end up dealing with a crowd where maybe 30% are just looking for a fight over nothing. Who do you trust? Obviously, the customer is "always right," but you have to explain that politely while risking $67 offering them a little something extra to smooth things over so they stay loyal—or you just cut them loose once you realize you're dealing with a nightmare... So, once again, it all boils down to the subjective judgment of a skilled salesperson. 🤷
Gregory Williams7 said:A customer is only as right as the money they spend. For those measly $2.25, he would have been kicked out of the store long ago.

He is simply frustrated and looking for someone to pick a fight with for no reason. If he had actually paid full price for that bread, $3333 maybe they would have apologized or compensated him. As it stands, they would just throw him out onto the street and ban him from ever returning.

Hmm... I guess those "cheapskates $2.25" are feeling pretty broke if they've calculated that they can't spend more than $6.75 😕
Daniel Rivera5 Daniel Rivera5 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2009
#17 ·
I don't call people like that customers—they're patients.
It’s becoming a frequent occurrence lately. You can offer them a full refund, a product exchange, or even a thousand apologies, but nothing works—there's no stopping that twisted logic where they just decide to screw over anyone forced to deal with them for a paycheck.

The funniest part? These "patients" usually spend the least. The less they pay, the more they harass you, the more they demand, and the higher their ego climbs—lol. It's pure complex therapy, nothing else.
dustymarlin10 dustymarlin10 Active Member
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joined Nov 2015
#18 ·
casualmarlin25 said:A customer is only justified if their grievance is actually grounded in logic and reason. In the specific case you mentioned, I wouldn't have even entertained that customer's complaint to begin with; they clearly just wanted some extra attention rather than actually caring that the bread lacked salt.

Every single corporation needs to establish clear protocols defining exactly when a customer is entitled to a return and precisely what that remedy looks like—whether it’s a straight exchange, a full refund, a partial credit, or some hybrid combination of product and cash.🙂

Only then can you be absolutely certain that any competent retailer will handle a given situation appropriately... that's my advice.😁

Nah.
All that stuff is already baked into federal consumer protection laws.☕
fadedcrane36 fadedcrane36 Member
17 messages
joined May 2011
#19 ·
restlesscrane152 said:There's this one solid business rule—the Customer is always right, sure, but that doesn't give them a free pass to act like a total jerk.

👍🙏
fadedcrane36 fadedcrane36 Member
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joined May 2011
#20 ·
Ronald Palmer9 said:But what happens when retailers just hit their breaking point and start taking it out on the customers? I've actually seen it happen firsthand.

I'm sure it wasn't intentional...
Someone probably just lost their cool on them right before it happened, so...
It doesn't make it okay to snap at people, but if everyone would just chill out for a second (take a look, please)☕

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe-6L8Qp-FM

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