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Issues with IV treatment

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feralranger81 feralranger81 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Because of some ongoing health issues, I've been stuck poking my veins every two or three days for about 15 years now. Honestly, my veins are just shot—today was a nightmare because I had to poke myself five different times. It’s like they just won't cooperate, I don't even know what the deal is. I'll go in, manage to get maybe half a syringe's worth (out of the usual 2 or 3 needed), and then I have to start all over again.
I was wondering if there's actually a way to fix or improve vein health, or if there's any new medical tech on the horizon that might make getting these meds into my bloodstream a lot less of a struggle?
Sam Hall15 Sam Hall15 Active Member
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#2 ·
And why bother with repeated IV starts? There are much more reliable options available, such as a central venous catheter or a PICC line, depending on the specific medication and how long the treatment lasts...
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#3 ·
Dealing with hemophilia—and honestly, I’m out here using those butterfly needles, not some tiny little micro-needles.
Those Braun ones? Total garbage. They leave actual craters in my arm.
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#4 ·
I honestly don't see myself ever being on Braunilo again—I really only used it back when I was stuck in a hospital bed for a month straight taking meds every single day. These days, I'll even skip a dose for five days straight without thinking twice, and since I'm busy with school, there's just no way I could be juggling classes while dealing with something like Braunilo.
Sam Hall15 Sam Hall15 Active Member
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#5 ·
In your setting, placing a subclavian catheter seems nearly impossible; hardly anyone would risk it when a peripheral line is an option, especially since other central lines aren't practical for outpatient use. I'm not sure why you'd find Braunies problematic, though—their 22G blue or 24G yellow options should work fine even for tiny veins. Plus, you face much less risk of a vein blowout compared to those butterfly needles or baby systems, though you can't really site those yourself unless you're working on a leg...
Sam Hall15 Sam Hall15 Active Member
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#6 ·
And how quickly do you administer the medication?
feralranger81 feralranger81 NewcomerOP
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#7 ·
Two 10ml shots, about 20 minutes apart.

PS: The formatting here is a little wonky—this forum is driving me crazy!
Sam Hall15 Sam Hall15 Active Member
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#8 ·
This is getting difficult; you can't just rely on basic injections indefinitely... at this point, your only real options might be gene therapy or some kind of continuous-release subcutaneous delivery
It isn't that the forum is crazy, it's just the people on it. I think I've made a mess of things with these posts...
Scott Allen10 Scott Allen10 Regular
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#9 ·
Wait, let me get this straight—you’re actually injecting yourself IV at home? Like, poking your own vein and doing the whole thing solo? I’m not sure if I’m following you correctly, but man, I have to admit, that sounds pretty wild to me.

If you're looking at long-term IV therapy, you really ought to be looking into some kind of central line. Since your setup sounds a bit unconventional, dealing with a standard subclavian or jugular catheter might be a total hassle. But honestly, using something like a Hickman or a Broviac isn't nearly as much of a headache. You've got the catheter in the subclavian area, but since it’s tunneled under the skin, it’s specifically designed for long-term stuff, like months of chemo or parenteral nutrition.
The other thing that crossed my mind was a PICC line (peripherally inserted central catheter). The entry point is usually the antecubital area, where they slide a plastic cannula through to reach the vena cava, making it a true central line—or it might just go about 20 cm deep, which would make it a "midline." Either way, it provides a super reliable venous access point that’s relatively easy to manage; as long as you stay on top of the heparinization and keep the site dressed properly, you can get quite a few weeks out of it.
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#10 ·
I really need a long-term solution here—something that actually sticks. I guess a quick fix might work for a little while, but for someone living with hemophilia, being able to manage things at home is absolutely vital to staying healthy.
Scott Allen10 Scott Allen10 Regular
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#11 ·
1. Hicman/Broviac

2. PICC/midline
Sam Hall15 Sam Hall15 Active Member
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#12 ·
Yes, but my concern is really about the safety aspect given the underlying condition. He doesn't have any clotting agents on hand if he starts bleeding at the puncture site. A Hicman catheter is more practical since the access point is under the right nipple, but how would you even manage to stop bleeding from a jugular vein?
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#13 ·
Honestly, none of that really works for me—it all seems way too complicated, and I'm just not in a position where I actually need it right now (like, say, recovering from some kind of surgery).
Hey, Sam Hall15, do you happen to know if there’s any research being done on finding ways to get medication into the bloodstream without all the pain?
Sam Hall15 Sam Hall15 Active Member
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#14 ·
There's a growing movement toward using inhalation methods for various medications lately; for instance, I recently came across a study regarding inhaled insulin... I'm not entirely certain about the status of other drugs, though.
Scott Allen10 Scott Allen10 Regular
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#15 ·
feralranger81 said:Honestly, none of that really works for me because it all seems way too complicated, and I’m just not in a spot where I actually need it—like, if I were facing some major surgery or something.

I can see how the first method is a bit of a different beast, but honestly, getting a PICC line set up—you know, that infusor thing—is pretty straightforward once you get going; from scrubbing the skin down to the final goodbye, you're looking at maybe five to ten minutes tops.🙂
Scott Allen10 Scott Allen10 Regular
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#16 ·
Sam Hall15 said:Yeah, but I'm mostly wondering about the safety side of things given the underlying illness, because if they don't have any clotting agents on hand and it starts bleeding at the puncture site, we're in trouble; a Hickman is pretty convenient since the site is right under the right nipple, but how are you even supposed to stop bleeding from the jugular vein?

Honestly, if the procedure is done right, the risk of bleeding is basically nothing.
If there's a leak somewhere, I’d just hold a gauze pad over the spot until it stops... it's simple enough... everything bleeds out eventually.🙂

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