Brenda Hayes2 said:Your conclusion is a bit of an oversimplification.🙂 Until recently, experts who hadn't personally examined her were merely speculating that Jodi isn't some simple sociopath, pathological liar, or narcissist as the media portrays her, but rather someone struggling with borderline personality disorder (BPD).
Among them, Dati Archer was the first to publicly identify the diagnostic criteria for BPD within Jodi's behavior:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...ality-disorder
Sheila Wendler, a forensic psychiatrist based in Hawaii, holds the exact same view:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2528011.html
Finally, Dr. Janeen DeMarte, an official witness for the District Attorney's Office, precisely diagnosed Jodi as having BPD during the trial just three weeks ago.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-...ry?id=19028331
In their book, The Borderline Personality Disorder Survival Guide, specifically in the chapter titled "what causes borderline personality disorder" on pages 41-60, Alex L. Chapman, Kim L. Gratz, and Perry d. Hoffman acknowledge that scientists have only just begun to solve the complex BPD puzzle. Nevertheless, they boldly conclude in the text that the most common cause of BPD is biological—specifically involving reduced functionality in the prefrontal cortex, or impairment of the amygdala and hippocampus—thereby challenging the rigid, outdated notion that BPD is caused exclusively by childhood trauma.
Because of generalizations like that, several people on this forum have been banned multiple times, and threads have been shut down... ☕
Just so you're aware, BPD is officially classified as a disorder that affects roughly 2-3 percent of the total population according to the World Health Organization (WHO). To break that down further, women make up about 75% of cases, while men account for the remaining 25%.
What I said isn't some sweeping generalization—it’s just that the way he goes about things is fundamentally masculine. I mean, it’s pretty obvious since the vast majority of people using that approach are men anyway.
Women rarely rely on brute force or weapons—men aren't exactly known for using those "feminine" methods either, like poisoning or smothering someone with a pillow (which, let's face it, is the classic move for those "Angel of Death" nurses). It’s just different.
When it comes to abandonment in disorders like BPD or psychopathy—it’s a different beast entirely. A person with BPD might kill their partner in a moment of pure, blind rage just to stop them from leaving—to prevent that abandonment from happening. A psychopath? They’ll kill her later, as a sort of calculated punishment because she actually had the nerve to walk away.
It works the same way with women, too—I guess.
Psychopathic murders following a breakup feel eerily similar to patterns seen in certain Islamic or more primitive Western cultures—places where a woman just mentioning to her family that her partner doesn't love her anymore or has left her can trigger a death sentence. In those settings, the family steps in and basically tells the guy he either stays with her or dies. It's a dark parallel, I guess.
It’s similar to those cases where things drag on for years—a guy realizes the relationship just isn't working and decides to walk away—and then the girl's dad, who was already picturing the wedding and a dozen grandkids with his wife, snaps, commits a premeditated murder, and heads straight to prison.
With psychopaths, the logic works on a pretty much identical principle—except the psychopath basically lumps themselves and their entire family into one single, messy unit.
Brenda Hayes2 said:Your conclusion is a bit of an oversimplification.🙂 Until recently, experts who hadn't personally examined her were merely speculating that Jodi isn't some simple sociopath, pathological liar, or narcissist as the media portrays her, but rather someone struggling with borderline personality disorder (BPD).
Among them, Dati Archer was the first to publicly identify the diagnostic criteria for BPD within Jodi's behavior:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...ality-disorder
Sheila Wendler, a forensic psychiatrist based in Hawaii, holds the exact same view:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2528011.html
Finally, Dr. Janeen DeMarte, an official witness for the District Attorney's Office, precisely diagnosed Jodi as having BPD during the trial just three weeks ago.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-...ry?id=19028331
In their book, The Borderline Personality Disorder Survival Guide, specifically in the chapter titled "what causes borderline personality disorder" on pages 41-60, Alex L. Chapman, Kim L. Gratz, and Perry d. Hoffman acknowledge that scientists have only just begun to solve the complex BPD puzzle. Nevertheless, they boldly conclude in the text that the most common cause of BPD is biological—specifically involving reduced functionality in the prefrontal cortex, or impairment of the amygdala and hippocampus—thereby challenging the rigid, outdated notion that BPD is caused exclusively by childhood trauma.
Because of generalizations like that, several people on this forum have been banned multiple times, and threads have been shut down... ☕
Just so you're aware, BPD is officially classified as a disorder that affects roughly 2-3 percent of the total population according to the World Health Organization (WHO). To break that down further, women make up about 75% of cases, while men account for the remaining 25%.
Everything in that link related to point number one—it could just as easily be psychopathic manipulation, pure obsession, and total fixation. It feels like there’s zero empathy involved—just a desperate attempt to reclaim some sense of "ownership."
I don't find her behavior all that strange—honestly. I guess I just view it through the lens of someone believing they have a fundamental right to own another person. It’s a mindset that's actually celebrated in certain cultures, anyway.
I mean—if someone stabs another person that many times, the way she did it? There’s gotta be some massive amount of rage involved. I guess. Maybe.
She was acting like some messed-up Arab guy who hasn't quite made up his mind about whether to murder his "lost love" or not.
People with BPD handle breakups way better than psychopaths do—I mean, it’s pretty obvious why. BPD types are just more sensitive and prone to falling hard, which makes it easier for them to idealize someone new or jump straight into finding a potential partner. Psychopaths? Not so much. They have almost zero emotional capacity and struggle to actually connect with anyone. So, when they lose a partner they actually had some sort of constructive feelings or plans for, that loss hits them like a freight train. It's a massive shock to deal with—maybe because they actually felt something for once, but yeah, it's a much heavier burden for them to carry.
When a psychopath loses someone they actually care about, it’s devastating—but honestly? They probably regret it mostly because they missed out on an opportunity to exploit them. It's a weird dynamic—their only real tether to being anything other than purely calculating is that tiny spark of emotion or positive connection. Once that's gone, a person with BPD will just devalue them, move on to someone else, and immediately start idealizing the next target.
Brenda Hayes2 said:Sorry, I have to circle back to this claim of yours. I’m not at all surprised by your conclusion, nor do I blame you for it. It is perfectly clear to me that your perception is warped and that you are a victim of a systemic media campaign—which, in the US (at least as long as I can remember campaigns against sexual violence have been waged here), boils down to portraying men as the sole aggressors. Not long ago I wrote about how such falsified, intentionally unorganized, and unprofessional data processing has led us to a credibly convincing number one spot WORLDWIDE for the number of male perpetrators (a staggering 96.2%). So, if that were actually true, I would wonder how American women can even live alongside their so many bloodthirsty males, and why they haven't all moved to Canada, or at least Jordan, Guinea, Zambia, Sierra Leone, Laos, or Ethiopia where they might feel significantly safer.
On that note, I want to add something regarding this topic of Jodi, because I find it baffling why the American public hasn't reacted with the same level of outrage toward the crime committed by Ana Magaš, who also has BPD and who, according to her attorney's testimony, is a manipulator, and who did not kill her husband from behind in self-defense. Jodi is portrayed globally as a "psychopath," while the perpetrator Ana is treated almost like a saint here; meanwhile, her butchered late husband is characterized by leading women's organizations as a typical male abuser who more than deserved his fate, resulting in him being doubly victimized without any shred of piety regarding his death.
In the scientific article Borderline Personality and Criminality, a detailed clinical psychiatric study on the makeup of prisoners convicted of the most serious felonies is presented:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2790397/
The authors presented data showing that research indicates generally 25 to 50% (depending on the specific country) of the TOTAL number of convicts have borderline personality disorder. That is drastically higher than the 2-3% of people with BPD found among the general population outside of prison, as I have already noted. The data is grouped by various parameters; for instance, in the United Kingdom, out of 90 convicted murderers, as many as 49 have BPD, whereas in France, "only" 8 out of 99 murderers have BPD, and so on....
However, the national statistics from all these studies clearly demonstrate that among those convicted of the most serious felonies, the number of female prisoners with BPD is three to eight times higher than the number of males with BPD. (For example, in Germany, 5.3% of men in prison have BPD, whereas there are as many as 42.9% female BPD prisoners).
Therefore, crimes like the one committed by Jodi Arias are mostly committed by women. Using methods that are three to eight times more "distinctive" than those of men. 😢
The issue with people living with BPD is that they tend to overreact—their emotions are just dialed up way too high.
If you grab someone with BPD by the throat and they notice a gun tucked in your waistband, they’ll react like you’re definitely planning to beat them and shoot them. Or if they think you might assault them and see a knife, they’ll jump to the conclusion that you're going to rape, mutilate, and kill them right then and there.
People with BPD don't think in terms of "this is just a fight"—they don't see a scuffle as just a scuffle. They view everything through the lens of the absolute worst-case scenario, escalating to the final level immediately. It's because they aren't just perceiving a real threat; they're reacting to a *potential* one, too.
Magaš went way beyond self-defense.
It's not like he told her his mistress was pregnant or that he was leaving her—she didn't have any justification for murder under the guise of "self-defense" by using some diagnosis as an excuse.
