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silverfox91 silverfox91 MemberOP
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#1 ·
Does anyone actually have a clue what their healthcare rights are? Like, which services are covered and which ones hit your wallet, and which insurance policy actually applies? I’m a student, so I went ahead and renewed my coverage card and grabbed a pamphlet from the social security office that basically said everything is free. Then my wife talks to someone at the local clinic and gets a completely different story. It’s a mess. Nobody seems to know what we're entitled to. Now the doctors are trying to charge extra and telling us a third version of reality. Does anyone know exactly what students are expected to pay for medical services? A buddy told me we all get two full physicals a year, no questions asked. I remember back when the doctors were threatening to strike, they promised they'd do things by the book—meaning detailed exams that would take at least 30 minutes per patient. Are we entitled to things like a color Doppler ultrasound? Just for preventative maintenance, you know, so I don't end up saying "oops, I didn't realize" later. Is that covered or not? What about a CT scan? Is that out of pocket or free? Or any other kind of screening? Every doctor says prevention is better than a cure, so why aren't they offering these tests in the first place? Do we even have the right to ask? Let them be annoyed if they want.
Adam Rogers2 Adam Rogers2 Member
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#2 ·
I don't think you have much standing to complain about a CT scan since you aren't pregnant.

Every diagnostic test comes with a price tag, and some carry side effects too. Usually, doctors start with the easiest, least invasive, and cheapest options first (if they just sent everyone for a CT or an MRI to scan them all, we'd be in trouble). But why would you put someone who just has the flu or is perfectly healthy through a CT? It’s just a waste of money, and it makes the wait times even longer for the people who actually need it.
Casey Palmer5 Casey Palmer5 Regular
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#3 ·
Wait, silverfox91... are you actually asking about getting a cardiotocography? 😂 (That's a CTG, by the way—it's what they use on moms to monitor the baby's heart rate).

If you want to look into it, here's where you can find more info:

The Medicare website:
http://www.medicare.gov

Toll-free numbers for questions about supplemental insurance or getting exemptions from co-pays:
1-800-797-9000 and
1-800-798-9000


On their site, you can find references to the Federal Register where various health care and insurance laws are published, such as:

The Health Insurance Act (Federal Register, Nos. 94/01, 88/02, 149/02, and 117/03)

The Law on Exemption from Certain Health Care Costs (Federal Register, No. 32/02)

The Department of Health and Human Services website:
www.hhs.gov
Toll-free information line: 1-800-200-063

Their pages also list entries from the Federal Register regarding different health care and insurance regulations, including:

The Health Care Act
Federal Register (1/97, 111/97, 95/00, and 129/00)

The Plan and Program of Health Care Measures under Basic Health Insurance

The Plan and Program of Health Care Measures
Federal Register 30/2002
Casey Palmer5 Casey Palmer5 Regular
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#4 ·
Who doesn't need to worry about supplemental health insurance?

According to the Health Insurance Act, certain people are exempt from paying copayments:

Residents of the US who aren't covered under any other plan and are registered with Medicare, provided they meet these criteria:

a) They register within 30 days after leaving a job, ending self-employment, or when their unemployment benefits under this Law or related regulations run out.

b) They register within 30 days of finishing military service or being discharged due to a disability sustained during service.

c) They register within 30 days of being released from a correctional facility or a specialized medical institution if they were under a court-ordered mandate for psychiatric care or treatment for substance abuse.

d) They register within 30 days of returning to the US, as long as they were covered by US health insurance right before they moved abroad.

e) They register within 90 days after the school year ends in which they graduated.

f) They register within 90 days of completing their military service (or after being discharged for illness), assuming they entered service within 60 days of finishing the school year they just completed.

g) People participating in vocational training or retraining programs organized by the Department of Labor.

h) Individuals who register within 30 days of losing their coverage based on wage-related contributions or once their benefits under the Health Insurance Act or its associated regulations expire.

Also, US residents who aren't covered elsewhere and have turned 18, as long as they sign up with Medicare within 30 days of their 18th birthday.

High school students and full-time college students who are US citizens living in the US and aren't covered through a family member's insurance while they are still enrolled.

A surviving spouse who hasn't qualified for survivor benefits and registers with Medicare within 90 days of their partner's passing, provided they don't have another way to be insured.

US residents who lose their student status or drop out of school according to educational regulations, provided they register with Medicare within 30 days of that change and don't qualify for insurance through some other means.

People living in the US who have been recognized as disabled veterans or survivors entitled to benefits under the relevant veteran protection laws, if they aren't already covered under another plan.

American veterans of major conflicts, if they don't have another form of insurance.

Caregivers looking after a veteran with a 100% total disability rating, provided they aren't covered under a different plan.

US residents who have received healthcare benefits under various veteran assistance laws and decrees listed in the Federal Register, provided they aren't otherwise insured...

active-duty military personnel and reservists serving in the U.S. Armed Forces, provided they aren't already covered under another plan,

U.S. residents who are unable to live or work independently and lack the means to support themselves; these individuals are automatically covered under health insurance at the same level as their family members, unless they qualify through other means.

individuals participating in organized public works programs within the United States,

those fulfilling obligations for civil defense or specialized surveillance and intelligence services,

members of volunteer fire departments performing duties such as firefighting, disaster rescue, training, or safety monitoring in high-risk areas, as well as those participating in public demonstrations or community fire safety education,

recipients of disability compensation under Social Security regulations, if they don't have coverage elsewhere. In these cases, coverage specifically applies when it relates to the injury or illness that caused the original disability.

Farmers mentioned in Section 5, Item 10 of this Act who have reached age 65 may be exempt from basic health insurance contributions, provided they meet specific criteria set by the Secretary of Health and Human Services in coordination with the relevant social services official.

Individuals recognized as combat veterans or their family members under veteran rights legislation, as well as those designated as combat, non-combat, or civilian wartime disabled under the Veterans Protection Act

children under the age of 18


Students over 18 who are enrolled in full-time education are entitled to full preventive and curative healthcare, including medical rehabilitation and medications from the agency's approved list, across all levels of care (primary, secondary, and tertiary)—though this doesn't include orthopedic devices or dental prosthetics.


To claim this exemption, one must present a special ID card issued by the agency based on
official proof of full-time enrollment or student status.

individuals with disabilities and others qualifying for caregiver assistance under specific regulations; this includes anyone with at least an 80% physical impairment according to Social Security or veteran benefit laws, as well as physically handicapped individuals

regular blood donors who have completed over 35 donations (for men) or over 25 donations (for women)

individuals whose per capita household income for a calendar year does not exceed the limit established by special federal law.
Casey Palmer5 Casey Palmer5 Regular
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#5 ·
So, what exactly is supplemental health insurance?

Back on October 19, 2001, US Congress passed the Health Insurance Act (let's just call it "the Act"). It was officially proclaimed on October 24, 2001, and published in the Federal Register...

This Act introduced brand-new ways to handle health coverage through supplemental and private insurance, basically shaking things up from how everything worked under the old 1993 rules.

Under this Act, insurance companies can offer both supplemental and private plans, though they had to wait two years after the law took effect—starting January 1, 2004—before they could actually start providing supplemental coverage. Until then, the agency held the exclusive right to manage supplemental health insurance.

SUPPLEMENTAL HEALTH INSURANCE IS A NEW TYPE OF COVERAGE DESIGNED TO PAY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT BASIC INSURANCE COVERS AND THE FULL COST OF YOUR MEDICAL CARE.

WHAT DOES THIS ACTUALLY MEAN FOR YOU?

According to Section 17 of the Act, Medicare covers the costs for medical services provided under the basic health coverage program (as outlined in Section 15, subsection 3), unless another specific law says otherwise:

1. It covers 100% of the following:

Preventative care for kids, students in school, and adults (though this doesn't include preventative checkups already covered by employers or local government agencies)
Curative care and medical rehab for children, students, and those in school
Orthopedic devices and other aids for kids under 18, per agency guidelines
Primary preventative and curative care for adults, as long as it isn't already covered by points 2–6 in this section
Preventative and curative care related to family planning, pregnancy monitoring, and childbirth
Dental prevention and treatment for kids under 18 and pregnant women
Preventative and curative care for HIV infections and other infectious diseases where the law mandates measures to stop their spread
Mandatory vaccinations, immunoprophylaxis, and chemoprophylaxis
Lab work, radiology, and other diagnostic tests at the primary care level
Emergency hospital care (not including room and board mentioned in points 3 and 4)
Room and board in hospitals for treating chronic psychiatric patients
Chemotherapy and radiation therapy
Care related to organ transplants
Emergency medical assistance
Emergency dental care
Emergency medical transport
Home visits for acute conditions
Home treatment
Home health nursing care
Medical transport for specific patient categories, based on guidelines from the Department of Health and Human Services
Drugs from the agency's approved list when used for hospital treatment or prescribed at the primary care level (excluding drugs mentioned in points 3, 5, and 6)
Health care and rehab for workplace injuries and occupational diseases, including orthopedic aids per agency guidelines
Nursing care provided in the patient's home.

ALL THE SERVICES LISTED ABOVE ARE FULLY COVERED BY BASIC HEALTH INSURANCE, MEANING THE AGENCY PAYS THE ENTIRE BILL FOR THESE SPECIFIC SERVICES.

The Act goes on to specify in Section 17, subsection 2, points 2–6, certain types of care where the agency only pays a minimum set amount...

At least 85% value for...

This covers everything from specialist consultations and board reviews to day hospital services and outpatient surgical procedures—though it doesn't include physical medicine or rehab...
It’s all about getting those specialist diagnostics that go way beyond what you'd find at your local primary care clinic...
Orthopedic devices and other medical aids—as defined by the agency’s general regulations...
Getting medical treatment abroad while staying within the guidelines of the agency's general act...
Getting physical medicine and rehabilitation delivered right to a patient's doorstep... it really changes the whole game for recovery.
Specialized periodontal care for adults... it really is a whole different ballgame when you're looking at advanced dental health.
Specialized dental health services for adults focusing on oral surgery...

3. At least 75% of the value goes toward...

I’ve been thinking lately about how much people actually end up paying for room and board when they're staying in a hospital to manage chronic illnesses... It’s one of those hidden costs that really adds up, and honestly, it can be such a headache to navigate through all the paperwork...
These are the medications on the agency's approved list that can be prescribed via prescription within primary care, excluding any drugs covered under points 1, 5, or 6 of this section...
Dental care coverage for removable and fixed prosthetics when you're over 70... it's such an important topic that often gets overlooked.

At least 70% of the value goes toward...

Specialist-led multidisciplinary care within physical medicine and rehabilitation...
When you're dealing with acute illnesses, it really comes down to those hospital costs—specifically what you end up paying for things like room stays and meals...

At least 50% value for...

Dental care coverage for adults when it comes to mobile and fixed prosthetics... it’s a bit of a complicated topic, isn't it?
These are the medications on the agency's approved list that can be prescribed via prescription in primary care, though you'll want to exclude anything covered under points 1, 3, and 6 of this section...

At least 25% of the value goes toward...

This covers all the medications on the agency's approved list that can be prescribed via a standard prescription through your primary care doctor—just excluding the specific ones mentioned in points 1, 3, and 5 of this section...

If you’ve got a supplemental health insurance policy through the agency, you might be wondering who picks up the tab for that remaining balance—the part that covers up to 100% of the costs. Basically, if you're already covered by a supplemental plan from the agency, they'll handle those extra costs instead of you having to pay out of pocket...

For those covered by Medicare—specifically our regular blood donors who have hit at least 25 donations for men or 15 for women, as well as organ donors helping others under certain coverage terms—there’s a little extra perk. The agency actually covers health services at a rate that's 5% higher than the standard amount... just a small way to say thanks for stepping up...

Basically, the scope of coverage under basic health insurance—which is all laid out in the official health care measures program—gets set every single year. It’s decided by the administration here in the US, based on what the Department of Health and Human Services proposes regarding those specific percentages mentioned in points 2 through 6...

The specifics mentioned in points 2 through 6 under the second paragraph of this article might vary depending on the particular type of medical service you need or even the specific illness being treated...

Just a heads-up for anyone covered under Medicare: if you go outside the standard procedures laid out in the Health Insurance Act or its official regulations, the agency isn't going to pick up the tab. Basically, if you opt for services that don't follow the rules set by the Department of Health and Human Services, those costs are on you...

We’re looking at experimental treatments—that means any medical products, devices, or medications that are currently moving through clinical trials...
So, when we're talking about aesthetic reconstructive surgery, it’s important to note that it covers more than just basic cosmetic tweaks. We're looking at procedures meant to repair congenital anomalies, breast reconstruction following a mastectomy, or even rebuilding areas after severe injuries...
So, I’ve been thinking about the whole topic of treating acquired infertility... It’s such a heavy, complicated subject, isn't it? There are so many layers to it, from the medical side of things to how we navigate all the different regulations under the Health Care Act. It really makes you realize how much goes on behind the scenes just to get people the help they need...
So, I’ve been thinking quite a bit about surgical options for obesity lately... It’s such a heavy topic, both literally and figuratively, but it’s one that more and more people are looking into as a real way to reclaim their health. When you move past just diet and exercise, weight loss surgery becomes this major crossroads. It’s not exactly a "quick fix," even though people sometimes talk about it like that—it’s a massive life decision that changes how your body actually functions. Whether it's gastric bypass or sleeve gastrectomy, you're essentially resetting the biological clock on how you process food. I know there's a lot of anxiety around the idea of going under the knife, and honestly, that's totally fair. But for many Americans struggling with severe health complications, it feels less like an elective procedure and more like a necessary lifeline... It really comes down to weighing those long-term benefits against the risks of staying on the current path. It's a tough call, but definitely worth exploring with a doctor...
Dealing with medical complications that pop up after you've sought care outside of your basic health insurance coverage...
It’s all about that specialized occupational health coverage you get when an employer strikes a deal directly with a medical facility—basically, any clinic that has its own occupational medicine department or even just a private specialist on staff...
silverfox91 silverfox91 MemberOP
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#6 ·
I’m feeling restless. Maybe I’m pregnant or something? 😁 You never really know, right? Honestly, I kind of just want to go get an ultrasound just for the hell of it. Just to be sure, so I don't end up one day... well, you know, freaking out and shaking like a leaf when things get real. 😁 It’s nothing. Or at least, I don't think it is. Even if something did happen, my body would probably just fight it off. I'll read up on all this later. I've got much better things to do tomorrow!😎
Casey Palmer5 Casey Palmer5 Regular
470 messages
joined Jan 2016
#7 ·
Who knows, maybe an alien moved in upstairs... 😁

You don't just mess around when it comes to Doppler scans.
At least not on Medicare's dime. . You'll have to cover that one yourself, obviously.

So, what kind of Doppler procedure were you actually looking to get done?
Adam Rogers2 Adam Rogers2 Member
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joined May 2003
#8 ·
It’d probably be cheaper to just head down to a local garage 😁.

I don't know why you're getting so obsessed with the Doppler effect.

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