Leonard Orr

Since he went around "promising immortality," he’s clearly doing everything in his power to scrub his birth date from the record. Does anyone actually know when Leonard was born?

If you do a quick Google search, it says around 1938.
Is this someone well-known?😕 It mentions he’s the founder of rebirthing (or whatever it is). Can anyone explain what that actually is?

According to Wikipedia.
Leonard Orr (born around 1938) is an American spiritual leader best known for developing rebirthing, a specific breathing technique (pranayama) designed to help individuals process the "trauma" associated with birth. Leonard maintains that he had encounters with nine immortal yogis, among them Babaj or Herakhan baba , The Mahavatar of The Kriya Yoga lineage [ brought to The West by Paramahansa Yoganand ( author of ' Autobiography of a Yogi ' ) and founder of Self-Realization Fellowship ]. While Leonard Orr has provided the therapeutic world with an incredibly useful tool, he remains a polarizing figure because of his unorthodox perspectives on spirituality and human psychology—especially regarding his theories on achieving physical immortality and gaining mastery over the material realm.

Thanks, Master.
Look, I already know the facts, what I actually want to know is the exact date.
Rebirthing—or "conscious breathing" if you want to be fancy. Back in the 70s, there was this guy hanging out in a sauna who "decided to stay a little longer," and boom, he had his breakthrough. During the whole hippie and commune era, rebirthing was massive. He used to work with Sondra Ray. Back then, people were experimenting with conscious breathing while submerged in water; warm water brings up thoughts of life, while cold water triggers thoughts of death. Tsk. Talk about a "wet rebirth." Those sessions would drag on for hours. You don't see that anymore. Nowadays, a rebirthing session lasts maybe 30 to 45 minutes, and honestly, it’s incredibly good for both the body and the soul. 😉

During those 'rebirthing' sessions—you know, the hyperventilation stuff—you basically get hit with an 'oxygen intoxication.' It actually shifts how hemoglobin binds to oxygen just to keep you from going into shock, which is why people end up with those muscle spasms.
I’ve personally tried that technique two or three times myself, and honestly? It feels way too invasive for me. I'd say it's pretty dangerous, if you ask me.

Kyle Nelson2 said:During those "rebirthing" sessions—you know, where you hyperventilate—it actually causes an "oxygen intoxication." Basically, your hemoglobin shifts its affinity for oxygen to prevent your body from going into shock, which leads to those muscle spasms.
I’ve personally tried this technique two or three times myself, and honestly? It felt way too invasive for me. I actually think it can be pretty dangerous.

That’s the gist of it... but seriously, you really need to do this with a trained therapist. Otherwise, you're just going to inflate yourself up like a giant balloon!🙂

I mean, I’d be pretty curious to see how this technique actually messes with blood pressure...
Could people dealing with high blood pressure run into trouble? Like, what if someone ends up having a heart attack or a stroke?
And should folks with heart conditions just stay far away from this? I haven't really noticed anyone asking if there are pre-existing issues or things like pacemakers involved.
What about people with epilepsy, diabetes, or those on psych meds and antidepressants?
Also, how does this affect aging? Since oxygen is such an oxidative agent, wouldn't all that extra intake potentially speed up aging at a cellular level while you're busy chasing spiritual growth?

Kyle Nelson2 said:During the "rebirthing" process—specifically during those periods of hyperventilation—you actually experience a sort of "oxygen intoxication." This triggers a shift in how hemoglobin binds with oxygen in your bloodstream as a built-in mechanism to prevent physical shock. That physiological shift is exactly what causes those muscle spasms or cramps you might feel.
Personally, I’ve tried this technique two or three times myself, and honestly? It feels way too invasive for me. I actually consider it pretty dangerous.

I did a session with Radih once (with a therapist helping out), and for several hours afterward, I didn't feel a single thing. It was total nothingness. 🤔

I feel a little lightheaded from all the hyperventilating, but honestly, it’s nothing out of the ordinary—kind of like that weird sensation you get when you're freediving. No muscle spasms, no clearing my throat, no sudden emotional outbursts or flashbacks... just that slight head spin. 🙄
That explains why the woman next to me—there were only two of us in the session—was twisting, turning, and retching so hard we actually had to stop before we were finished. But honestly, that was just wild female energy; she probably would have reacted that way even if someone told her it was some brand-new spiritual technique from a California clinic run by Leonard Orr. 😂

How can anyone actually put their trust in someone with a name like that? 😁

Balkanijan Pig said:It’s almost hard to believe someone would actually go by the name 😁

Man, you really put Svinjić through the wringer with those numbers... what was that about? 😁

And honestly, why should we even trust a guy like Svinjici Pigica???

Because we love ya! 😘

😍

svinjica Pigica doesn't make a living selling off spiritual techniques and philosophies; you can't take anything they say at face value, whether it sounds believable or not 😁

Balkanijan Pig said:😍

svinjicapigica isn't out here peddling spiritual techniques or philosophies for a paycheck. Whether you buy it or not is up to you! 😁

Well, svinjicapigica definitely has her own perspective! We can choose to believe her or not... as for the whole "selling" thing? Let's just leave that to the professionals.😉

wearyowl29 said:Look, svinjicapigica has her own perspective—take it or leave it. As for the business side of things? Let’s leave that to the pros.😉

It's not about having an opinion, Pigica actually uses her head, though I guess I shouldn't expect much more from women. 😍

And Pigica is well aware she could make a killing herself if she just rebranded as Theodozius Ezoterius and cooked up some new "spiritual technique" every couple of years whenever she needs a quick cash grab. 😁

But she isn't looking to build a career in that racket, and honestly, I agree with you—you have to know when to walk away. A truly skilled thief knows how to stay professional. 😁

Balkanijan Pig said:Pigica doesn't have an opinion, she has a brain—though I suppose you can't expect the same from women.😍

And honestly? Pigica knows perfectly well she could make a killing if she just rebranded herself as Theodozius Ezoterius and cooked up some new "spiritual technique" every few years whenever her old ones lose their spark. 😁

But she isn't looking to build a career in that racket. I’m right there with you on this one; you’ve got to know when to steal! Even a master thief has to be a total pro at their craft. 😁

Wait, hold on... if you don't have an opinion, but you *do* have a brain... then where exactly does the opinion come from???

Pigius Domesikus Trimestos, grandmaster of all knowledge and worship.🙏

Nemruth Dagi said:You don't have an "attitude"—you just have a brain... so where on earth does this whole concept of an attitude even come from?

You could call them attitudes if you really wanted to, but personally, I prefer to just group those thoughts under the category of common sense.😁

Nemruth Dagi said:Pigius Domesikus Trimestos, master of all knowledge and sacrificial rites

Do you really think this wouldn't be a massive hit on the cutthroat American market?

Master Trimestos and his technique for clearing karma through the elimination of aurally attached elementals—otherwise known as the Great Sacrifice.😁

By spending time with the Bon-po priests in the most secretive, remote corners of the Tibetan Plateau—places where even a white man has never set foot—and working alongside South American shamans, he combined deep research into parapsychological phenomena and the mechanics of the collective unconscious. After years of practicing every spiritual technique imaginable, Master Trimestos has engineered a brilliant method. It’s based on ancient shamanic traditions, perfectly recalibrated for the subconscious symbolism of the modern individual. This technique allows you to identify what ancient cultures called ghosts and demons—which are actually just symbolic manifestations of your karmic and life-path psychological burdens—and then eliminate them in the astral plane using a specialized, magical ritual knife. In doing so, you can shed heavy energetic weights in mere seconds that would normally take lifetimes of traditional spiritual practice to resolve.🙂

Well, Piggy Bank, I never expected much from you, but you completely overlooked the most critical factor of all... the price.

Baphomet said:Look, Piggy, I never expected much from you, but you really missed the most obvious part... the price tag.

Oh, you little materialist... price doesn't even matter here; things like this are priceless. Besides, I have bills to pay too! I need to fund my expeditions into the uncharted territories of the human soul and travel to the deepest, most mysterious corners of the country—all for the greater good of the public, of course. 😳

Balkanijan Pig said:I did one session (with a therapist) where for an hour I felt absolutely nothing.🤔

My head felt a little weird from hyperventilating, but honestly, it wasn't much different from free diving. No spasms, no burping, no emotional outbursts, no flashbacks, none of that stuff... 🙄
😁

Looking at your post, it’s pretty obvious you didn't actually "enter the cycle"—meaning you didn't truly undergo the rebirth process.

1. If you want a "good" rebirth, you need a solid facilitator. A real pro knows how to actually motivate lazy clients (or just sends them packing home).

2. Spasms, burping, and all those other "physical side effects" aren't the actual goal of the rebirth. That stuff usually clears up after a few sessions (maybe ten or fewer these days).

3. Rebirth isn't just hyperventilating.

4. And let's be real, rebirth isn't "easy" (like Reiki, where you just lie there and chill). You have to actually "breathe" for an hour or more.😉

Taroth said:I mean, wouldn't it be interesting to see how this technique actually messes with blood pressure?
Could people with high blood pressure run into trouble? Like, what if someone ends up having a heart attack or a stroke?
Should folks with heart issues just steer clear of this entirely? (I haven't noticed anyone asking about underlying conditions or things like pacemakers.)
And what about people dealing with epilepsy, diabetes, or those on psychotropics and antidepressants?
Plus, how does this stuff affect aging? Oxygen is a super oxidative agent, so couldn't you end up fast-tracking the aging process at a cellular level while chasing spiritual growth?

People with epilepsy or other chronic issues can definitely undergo rebonding, but you’ve gotta find a practitioner who’s "crazy enough" to handle it, since those folks are already working with such fragile health.
Leonard Orr's "ex" is Polish, so this kind of thing was pretty common back in Poland. Even today, there are medical facilities over there where they practice rebonding.

Baphomet said:Look, Piggy, I never expected much from you, but you totally missed the most obvious part... the price tag.

The "cost of falling" in New York City is roughly $83.

Balkanijan Pig said:That’s why she was twisting, turning, and basically throwing up next to me—there were two of us in the session—and we actually had to cut it short before we finished. But hey, she was just being a crazy woman, right? She probably would’ve reacted that way even if someone just started jumping around 😁

P. S. eto

I mean, if Balkanijan had actually shelled out the cash for a full realignment, he definitely wouldn't be buzzing around looking over his shoulder and praying to God that some rogue movement doesn't rip his clothes right off his body.😉