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Living with narcolepsy

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Participants ironsailor80rapidwalker56Matthew Roberts30Patrick Young2shadowridge14Anthony Johnson12Jose Foster43Daniel Murphy6Michael Scott8
ironsailor80 ironsailor80 NewcomerOP
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joined Dec 2008
#1 ·
I’ve actually been struggling with narcolepsy for much longer than I realized, though I was only officially diagnosed just now.
It’s an incredibly rare organic condition, affecting roughly 1 in 10,000 people. It hits men and women at an equal rate.
I am looking to connect with others living with this same diagnosis.
Best,
ironsailor80
rapidwalker56 rapidwalker56 Newcomer
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#2 ·
My brother was diagnosed with narcolepsy about 11 years ago. They told him he's had it since birth, and now he’s 19. I don't really know where you guys are located or what kind of treatment you're getting, but I can tell you that things are pretty rough here. We're based out of Chicago. He can't even get the right medications because they aren't available for purchase locally, and everyone just says there isn't any specific therapy for it since the condition hasn't been fully researched yet. I guess it's just how it is here. What have your experiences been like?
Matthew Roberts30 Matthew Roberts30 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2012
#3 ·
Hey,
I’m not entirely sure if anyone else deals with this—I haven't been able to find anyone else going through it. My boyfriend has this habit of passing out in the weirdest places and situations. It used to be kind of funny, but now it’s actually getting dangerous. He’s already drifted off behind the wheel a few times—one time he actually veered off the road and just kept sleeping! And if we go out, he almost always crashes at a restaurant or cafe. He even falls asleep at red lights while waiting for them to turn green!!!
Does anyone have similar issues or know what might be going on? Just to clarify, he sleeps normally at night.
Patrick Young2 Patrick Young2 Member
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joined Jan 2019
#4 ·
Try searching Google for Narcolepsy; that might be what you're looking for.
shadowridge14 shadowridge14 Member
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joined Oct 2006
#5 ·
Good grief, just stay off the road.😲
Matthew Roberts30 Matthew Roberts30 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2012
#6 ·
Narcolepsy feels like the closest fit for what he’s going through, but honestly, the rest of his symptoms just don't line up. And I can't exactly stop him from driving—he needs to for work, unfortunately.
If we're talking about someone who could pass out while standing up or even mid-stride... 😕
He claims he's been this way since he was a kid. My family has basically passed down legends about his sleeping habits—we're talking falling asleep in a bathroom stall, nodding off right in front of a speaker at a death metal show, or just slipping off chairs and hitting his head on the table. 😂
Anthony Johnson12 Anthony Johnson12 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2012
#7 ·
Hey. Two things—anyone else out there dealing with this same mess?

Also, does anyone know how much leeway they give you regarding these disorders, since I can barely manage a basic life, let alone college, so I really only show up when I actually can.

I’ve been digging through the forum, but all I found was one thread on narcolepsy that doesn't really hit the mark for me, especially since I'm struggling with all three of these:

If I don't get an answer, I guess this could just become a general thread for one of the conditions mentioned in the title.

Thanks in advance 😍
Jose Foster43 Jose Foster43 Newcomer
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Matthew Roberts30 said:Narcolepsy seems like the closest fit, honestly, though some of the other symptoms aren't quite hitting the mark. And I can't exactly tell him to stop driving—he needs the job.
If we’re looking at the fact that he could fall asleep while standing up or just walking along... 😕
He tells me he's been this way since he was a kid. There are basically whole legends passed down about his sleeping habits—falling asleep in a bathroom stall, passing out right next to a speaker at a death metal show, tumbling out of chairs and cracking his head on the floor... 😂

I deal with those exact same symptoms. What's the situation with your boyfriend today... are you guys still together?
Daniel Murphy6 Daniel Murphy6 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2014
#9 ·
Hey everyone,
I was diagnosed with narcolepsy about a year ago, which makes me one of maybe 50 people dealing with this across all of America right now. Since then, I've run into endless hurdles just because most people—including a lot of doctors—barely even know what this is. It feels almost impossible to claim any actual patient rights or benefits through insurance or Social Security because the condition isn't properly recognized in their official rulebooks yet. And since it’s pretty much invisible in occupational medicine too, getting any kind of reasonable workplace accommodations is an uphill battle.
The worst part, though, is how much this messes with your social life, especially with your own family. People start labeling you—calling you uninterested, careless, weird, or even just lazy and useless. Then, after years of bouncing between specialists to finally get an answer, you have "well-meaning" people tell you it's just psychological or that you're making it up, or that it's "not that big of a deal" if you nod off occasionally. Before the diagnosis, you try to hide the fatigue to fit in, which just feeds the stigma. Even after you officially have the diagnosis, you're left feeling disappointed that nobody took you seriously for years—they actually thought you were faking—only to still face ignorance and constant, unsolicited advice on how to "fix" yourself. It honestly makes you wonder who the crazy ones really are. Eventually, you just start withdrawing from everyone because you're tired of explaining yourself to people who look at you and say, "But you look fine, what's wrong with you?"
Anyway, I won't ramble on, but because of all this, the doctors at the sleep center and I were talking and thought it might be a good idea to start a nonprofit for people with narcolepsy and their families. The goal would be to share experiences, support each other, and push to get this diagnosis included in official regulations and laws so we can actually get the help and legal protections we need.

So, if you have a narcolepsy diagnosis (G47.4), or if you're a family member interested in helping us get this association off the ground, please shoot me an email at narkolepsija@hotmail.com.

Also, feel free to reach out if you just want to ask questions about narcolepsy, vent, or swap stories. That goes for family members too.
Best,
Daniel Murphy6 Daniel Murphy6 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2014
#10 ·
If you’ve got any questions about narcolepsy, feel free to drop them here. I’ll try my best to get back to you as soon as I can, even if you just suspect you might have it.
Just as a starting point, I think people mix up narcolepsy and sleep apnea quite a bit. They're actually totally different things, though they both share that extreme daytime sleepiness symptom. It's also worth noting that most people deal with non-organic sleep issues or other stuff—like stress, depression, meds, or way too much caffeine and stimulants—which is pretty different from organic disorders like narcolepsy or obstructive sleep apnea.
Maybe start by Googling narcolepsy first. You'll probably find more info in English (searching for things like "narcolepsy" or looking at the Stanford School of Medicine or Mayo Clinic sites), but if those symptoms sound like you, you should definitely try testing yourself:
- THE EPWORTH SLEEPINESS SCALE
http://www.stanford.edu/~dement/epworth.html
-Stanford Sleepiness Scale “Alertness Test”
http://www.aurora.edu/documents/well...tness-test.pdf

If the tests suggest there's a real chance you have a sleep disorder, and you've ruled out those other lifestyle factors, your best bet is probably booking an appointment at one of the sleep disorder centers here in the US (there's a separate one specifically for kids)
-Sleep disorder center, psychiatric hospital
-Sleep medicine center, Split Clinical Hospital Center
-Sleep disorder department, children's hospital

p.s. If you aren't living with narcolepsy yourself, or aren't a partner or family member of someone who is, and you don't feel comfortable posting on a public forum for some reason, you can always reach out via narkolepsija@hotmail.com. I set that up specifically for people with narcolepsy and their loved ones, or you can just send me a private message.
Michael Scott8 Michael Scott8 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2016
#11 ·
Daniel Murphy6 said:If you have any inquiries regarding narcolepsy, feel free to pose them here. I will endeavor to provide responses as promptly and thoroughly as possible. This applies equally to those currently living with the condition and those who merely suspect they might be dealing with it.
To begin, I would like to point out that people frequently conflate narcolepsy with sleep apnea. These are two entirely distinct medical conditions; their only commonality is the shared symptom of excessive daytime sleepiness. It is also necessary to note that most individuals suffer from non-organic sleep disturbances or other contributing factors—such as stress, depression, medication side effects, or an overreliance on caffeine and other stimulants. This must be clearly distinguished from organic sleep disorders, such as narcolepsy or obstructive sleep apnea.
I would suggest starting with some basic research—perhaps by Googling narcolepsy. You will likely find much more comprehensive information if you search using English terms, specifically looking up resources from institutions like the Mayo Clinic or the Stanford School of Medicine. If you find that the symptoms described in those clinical profiles align with your own experience, then I strongly advise that you pursue your own testing.
The Epworth Sleepiness Scale remains a fundamental diagnostic tool within the field of sleep medicine. It serves as a standardized, self-reported instrument designed to quantify subjective daytime sleepiness. By evaluating an individual's propensity to fall asleep during various daily activities—ranging from sitting quietly reading to driving a motor vehicle—clinicians can establish a baseline level of sleepiness. While it lacks the physiological precision of a polysomnography conducted at a dedicated sleep medicine center, its utility in initial screenings and longitudinal monitoring cannot be overstated. It provides a quantifiable metric that allows both the patient and the provider to track shifts in alertness levels over time.
If you find yourself constantly fighting to stay awake during the day, you might want to take a look at this resource from the Stanford School of Medicine regarding the Epworth Sleepiness Scale. It’s a standard tool used to gauge how much your daytime sleepiness is actually interfering with your daily life. Given how much people tend to overestimate or underestimate their own exhaustion, having a structured way to measure it can be quite useful for anyone looking to get some actual answers from a medical professional.
The Stanford Sleepiness Scale "Alertness Test" is a standard metric used within clinical settings to quantify subjective levels of drowsiness. It serves as a structured tool for patients to report their state of wakefulness, providing a numerical value that clinicians can use to track fluctuations in alertness over time. While it is a useful baseline for monitoring symptoms, one must recognize that it remains a self-reported measure, which inherently carries a degree of subjectivity. For those undergoing evaluation at a sleep medicine center, this scale is often a fundamental component of the diagnostic process.
I have reviewed the wellness assessment document provided via the Aurora link. It serves as a standard diagnostic tool for evaluating various facets of physical and mental health. While such assessments can offer a useful baseline for self-reflection, they should be viewed as preliminary indicators rather than definitive medical diagnoses. For anyone seeking a comprehensive evaluation, I would recommend consulting with professionals at a reputable institution, such as the Mayo Clinic, to ensure all findings are interpreted within a clinical context.

If your diagnostic tests indicate a serious suspicion of a sleep disorder—and you have already ruled out any underlying organic causes—your best course of action is to schedule an appointment at one of the two primary sleep disorder centers in the United States. There is a third facility, though that one is strictly dedicated to pediatric cases.
Sleep disorder center, psychiatric hospital
The sleep medicine center at the Split Clinical Hospital Center.
Sleep disorder department, Children's Hospital

P.S. If you aren't living with narcolepsy yourself—whether as a patient, a partner, or a family member—and you simply have no desire to post your questions on a public forum, you are more than welcome to reach out privately to our sleep disorder center. Daniel Murphy6@hotmail.com I have established a dedicated space for those living with narcolepsy, their partners, and family members. You are welcome to join the conversation here, or if you prefer, we can connect privately via direct message.

I have been diagnosed with several different conditions by various psychiatrists over the years—anxiety, depression, psychosis, and another one I can’t quite recall. Primarily, I was prescribed antipsychotics because they couldn't pinpoint the actual cause of my issues. Those medications were effective, though the consultations were always brief, seemingly designed just to get rid of me. This happens frequently regardless of which facility I visit. Recently, however, I read about narcolepsy, and it strikes me as the most plausible explanation. Initially, I dismissed my symptoms as mere laziness. Working as a pharmacy technician, I have discovered a specific regimen that helps manage this. It involves a mixture of Red Bull—or a similar energy drink—and cherry juice, mixed in equal parts. The logic here is to balance the wakefulness and sleep cycles; essentially, you are regulating the system by ensuring melatonin concentrations reach an equilibrium, much like a balanced scale. This is also how dopamine is regulated in cases of psychosis. One should not experience tremors from this, as tremors are a matter of dopamine levels; if they occur, a blend of lavender, mint, and green tea should be consumed. It is imperative to follow this exact ratio, as consuming only the cherry juice could lead to complications. Furthermore, one must adhere to an enzymatic diet if genetics are a factor, consisting of bread, vegetables, cheese, and cream. There are also supplements known as "super enzymes" from Twinlab. Regular exercise is also vital for circulation. Ultimately, we are dealing with a sleep disorder, yet a biochemical principle for the melatonin chain has not been established; however, that is secondary to the goal of chemically targeting the regulation process. Neurotransmitters can also be improved through physical movement. An enzymatic diet is crucial because enzymes regulate the chemical reactions within the body. In short, it is about regulating sleep and wakefulness. For me, day and night have become regulated without the side effects associated with antipsychotic medication.

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