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Justin Garcia7 Justin Garcia7 MemberOP
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#1 ·
When people hear the term "lone wolf," they usually think of social outcasts—people who struggle to make friends, feel disconnected, or just can't navigate a crowd. They picture the emotionally wounded or the extreme introverts.

But that’s not what I’m talking about here. I’m referring to people who actually have plenty of friends, love going out, and are totally approachable and outgoing. They aren't oddballs; they just happen to prefer their own company most of the time because they genuinely enjoy being alone.

I’ve met a few people like this, and they all describe themselves as old souls. They aren't particularly interested in worldly pursuits and tend to view themselves as spiritual people.

This ties back to the concept of introversion versus extroversion. There’s a common misconception that personality is defined by these labels, but I read somewhere that it’s really about where you draw your energy—from being around others or from being by yourself. For instance, a colleague of mine is incredibly talkative and social; she makes friends effortlessly and screams "extrovert" to anyone watching. Yet, she describes herself as a lone wolf who finds her greatest peace in solitude. On the flip side, I know so many people who can't stand being alone. They feel bored without distraction, constantly inviting people over, and often admit they feel empty when they aren't in someone's company.

I’m one of them myself. Instead of heading out tonight, I’d much rather meditate, dive into a book, contemplate, observe, build my inner world, or work on writing.😁 I find that being alone is the only way I can truly "center" myself, returning to that point of calm and balance before I head back out to face the world again.

To be clear, I know plenty of people with actual social struggles or emotional baggage who call themselves "old souls" or "spiritual" simply because they don't know how to connect with others or lack a support system. This post isn't about them. It's about emotionally mature, well-adjusted individuals who have everything they need, yet choose solitude as their primary source of energy.

I’d argue that these true lone wolves are more deeply connected to their authentic selves. What do you all think?
slycyclist26 slycyclist26 Member
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#2 ·
I think they’re actually more connected than most people realize 🙂
Solitude is such a vital thing, yet it feels like it's slipping through our fingers more and more in this modern world.
You come into this life alone, and you leave it alone.

Honestly, my favorite way to be is just hanging out with my cats... there isn't any sadness or anxiety they can't chase away 🙂
Scott Miller4 Scott Miller4 Active Member
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#3 ·
That’s an interesting way to look at it. 🙂

I'm definitely an extrovert, so I usually thrive when I'm around people. I rarely feel this intense need for solitude; if I end up alone, it’s usually just by accident—like during a random walk—and I don't mind the quiet when it happens.
The two people I love most in this world happen to be introverts. Looking at what you wrote about them being more in tune with their authentic selves, I suppose that might be true. When I compare myself to them, they often seem more grounded, steady, and certain than I am. And honestly, looking at the other extroverts and introverts I know, I tend to come to that same conclusion.

One thing, though—I don't really buy into those ideas about souls hitting certain milestones as they age, so I don't have much to add there.
slycyclist26 slycyclist26 Member
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#4 ·
Maybe those old souls are just people who grew up way faster than their birthdays suggest... or maybe they've already been here once and this whole world just doesn't grab them anymore 🙂
Michael Gonzalez77 Michael Gonzalez77 Active Member
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#5 ·
Justin Garcia7 said:When people hear the term "lone wolf," they usually think of social outcasts—people who struggle to make friends, feel disconnected, or just can't navigate a crowd. They picture the emotionally wounded or the extreme introverts.

But that’s not what I’m talking about here. I’m referring to people who actually have plenty of friends, love going out, and are totally approachable and outgoing. They aren't oddballs; they just happen to prefer their own company most of the time because they genuinely enjoy being alone.

I’ve met a few people like this, and they all describe themselves as old souls. They aren't particularly interested in worldly pursuits and tend to view themselves as spiritual people.

This ties back to the concept of introversion versus extroversion. There’s a common misconception that personality is defined by these labels, but I read somewhere that it’s really about where you draw your energy—from being around others or from being by yourself. For instance, a colleague of mine is incredibly talkative and social; she makes friends effortlessly and screams "extrovert" to anyone watching. Yet, she describes herself as a lone wolf who finds her greatest peace in solitude. On the flip side, I know so many people who can't stand being alone. They feel bored without distraction, constantly inviting people over, and often admit they feel empty when they aren't in someone's company.

I’m one of them myself. Instead of heading out tonight, I’d much rather meditate, dive into a book, contemplate, observe, build my inner world, or work on writing.😁 I find that being alone is the only way I can truly "center" myself, returning to that point of calm and balance before I head back out to face the world again.

To be clear, I know plenty of people with actual social struggles or emotional baggage who call themselves "old souls" or "spiritual" simply because they don't know how to connect with others or lack a support system. This post isn't about them. It's about emotionally mature, well-adjusted individuals who have everything they need, yet choose solitude as their primary source of energy.

I’d argue that these true lone wolves are more deeply connected to their authentic selves. What do you all think?

When you are truly yourself, you are always "with" yourself—whether you’re stuck inside four walls, sitting in a local diner, or standing in a crowded stadium.
Of course, once you reach maturity, you aren't driven by that desperate need for an "adrenaline rush" just to feel alive. Most people chase nights out or constant activities simply to fill a void that would otherwise turn into boredom. They go to places just because "that's where everyone goes."

What actually matters to us isn't the same thing society "offers" or pushes on us. Most social trends are basically just a circus. People who get caught up in that circus end up living through its chaos and suffering its consequences. But for someone who doesn't identify with the spectacle, they can observe the circus without being touched by it. They can step onto the stage and play a role when necessary—because unfortunately, that’s the life we have to navigate on this planet right now.

If someone wants to stay true to their Path and avoid the circus entirely, they might physically or mentally check out. But even that "checking out" shouldn't just be about taking a break for the sake of resting. If you really want to move forward on your Path, your interaction with the circus becomes a form of indirect service. It’s not just internal work; it’s helping those who are living through the madness without realizing it—those who feel the sting and the bite of it on their own skin.
darkraven darkraven Active Member
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#6 ·
Look, if we’re talking about people who are essentially lone wolves by nature, then even a wolf with a pack is still just a loner at heart. Solitude—true individuality—is just a fundamental part of being alive. Just because someone claims they're "fine" with being alone doesn't actually prove anything. By definition, a lone wolf is someone who either walked away from the pack or got kicked out. As a human trait, the implications of that should be pretty obvious.

I think you're using the wrong label for the kind of people you're describing. Those folks aren't loners; they're just people who happen to be comfortable in their own skin. They're introverts, sure, but they have enough social battery to lean into extroversion when they feel like it—they sit somewhere in that middle ground, leaning toward the quiet side. But once they start building a solid circle of friends and doing all the stuff you mentioned, they definitely don't fit into that "lone wolf" category anymore.

And honestly? I don't think it's even possible to be disconnected from your authentic self. Maybe there's a moment in some deep, unconscious state where that "self" isn't even there to begin with, though I'm not sure you could even call that being "disconnected." For people who actually pay attention to their own consciousness and what's going on inside their heads, they might just be a bit more tuned in to the process. It’s not that deep.
Maria Robinson2 Maria Robinson2 Active Member
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#7 ·
darkraven said:Look, if we’re talking about people who are essentially lone wolves by nature, then even a wolf with a pack is still just a loner at heart. Solitude—true individuality—is just a fundamental part of being alive. Just because someone claims they're "fine" with being alone doesn't actually prove anything. By definition, a lone wolf is someone who either walked away from the pack or got kicked out. As a human trait, the implications of that should be pretty obvious.

I think you're using the wrong label for the kind of people you're describing. Those folks aren't loners; they're just people who happen to be comfortable in their own skin. They're introverts, sure, but they have enough social battery to lean into extroversion when they feel like it—they sit somewhere in that middle ground, leaning toward the quiet side. But once they start building a solid circle of friends and doing all the stuff you mentioned, they definitely don't fit into that "lone wolf" category anymore.

And honestly? I don't think it's even possible to be disconnected from your authentic self. Maybe there's a moment in some deep, unconscious state where that "self" isn't even there to begin with, though I'm not sure you could even call that being "disconnected." For people who actually pay attention to their own consciousness and what's going on inside their heads, they might just be a bit more tuned in to the process. It’s not that deep.

Ostracized—because... well, there isn't even a wolf (the animal) that actually finds joy in living entirely alone.
Humans have logic alongside their feelings, whereas a wolf just has feelings, I guess.
People claim to identify with the wolf, seemingly, but if you listen closely, you realize they’re actually identifying with cats. It's interesting, assuming those two species have anything in common at all.
Dennis Bennett28 Dennis Bennett28 Member
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#8 ·
From an astrological perspective, the ruler of my first house—the one that defines my core personality and natural inclinations—is Pluto in Scorpio, sitting right in the twelfth house, which is basically the "prison" zone or the house of isolation. Because of that placement, I find a lot of peace in being alone, even though I can definitely hold my own and have a great time when I'm out with others. It’s just not something I do very often or for very long. 😁

I like to think of it this way: lone wolves tend to spend much more time exploring their own subconscious than the rest of the pack does. 😁
Maria Robinson2 Maria Robinson2 Active Member
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#9 ·
Dennis Bennett28 said:From an astrological perspective, the ruler of my first house—the one that defines my core personality and natural inclinations—is Pluto in Scorpio, sitting right in the twelfth house, which is basically the "prison" zone or the house of isolation. Because of that placement, I find a lot of peace in being alone, even though I can definitely hold my own and have a great time when I'm out with others. It’s just not something I do very often or for very long. 😁

I like to think of it this way: lone wolves tend to spend much more time exploring their own subconscious than the rest of the pack does. 😁

True, taking some time for yourself—whenever you feel the need—doesn't exactly make you a lone wolf.
People sometimes label introverts as "lone wolves," though I think there's a distinction missing there—but analyzing the specifics feels more like a job for a psychologist than a spiritual discussion. Also, the idea that loners focus more on their subconscious isn't necessarily true... I know plenty of social butterflies who are constantly talking about their inner psyche and self-discovery—it’s actually quite interesting to listen to them. 🙂
Dennis Bennett28 Dennis Bennett28 Member
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#10 ·
When I think about diving into the subconscious, I’m really picturing people who simply find more fulfillment tucked away in their own thoughts than they do hanging out in a crowd. And honestly? It’s not like there’s anything wrong with them. Let’s be real—socializing can actually be pretty draining after a while; it can totally suck the wind right out of your sails! Especially when the conversation inevitably turns into a relentless loop of "me, myself, and I."😁
brighteagle39 brighteagle39 Active Member
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#11 ·
Justin Garcia7 said:When people hear the term "lone wolf," they usually think of social outcasts—people who struggle to make friends, feel disconnected, or just can't navigate a crowd. They picture the emotionally wounded or the extreme introverts.

But that’s not what I’m talking about here. I’m referring to people who actually have plenty of friends, love going out, and are totally approachable and outgoing. They aren't oddballs; they just happen to prefer their own company most of the time because they genuinely enjoy being alone.

I’ve met a few people like this, and they all describe themselves as old souls. They aren't particularly interested in worldly pursuits and tend to view themselves as spiritual people.

This ties back to the concept of introversion versus extroversion. There’s a common misconception that personality is defined by these labels, but I read somewhere that it’s really about where you draw your energy—from being around others or from being by yourself. For instance, a colleague of mine is incredibly talkative and social; she makes friends effortlessly and screams "extrovert" to anyone watching. Yet, she describes herself as a lone wolf who finds her greatest peace in solitude. On the flip side, I know so many people who can't stand being alone. They feel bored without distraction, constantly inviting people over, and often admit they feel empty when they aren't in someone's company.

I’m one of them myself. Instead of heading out tonight, I’d much rather meditate, dive into a book, contemplate, observe, build my inner world, or work on writing.😁 I find that being alone is the only way I can truly "center" myself, returning to that point of calm and balance before I head back out to face the world again.

To be clear, I know plenty of people with actual social struggles or emotional baggage who call themselves "old souls" or "spiritual" simply because they don't know how to connect with others or lack a support system. This post isn't about them. It's about emotionally mature, well-adjusted individuals who have everything they need, yet choose solitude as their primary source of energy.

I’d argue that these true lone wolves are more deeply connected to their authentic selves. What do you all think?


In my view, both types are essentially lone wolves, though they arrive at that solitude through very different paths.
For one person, being alone is a choice made out of genuine enjoyment, whereas for another, it might be a circumstance they endure simply because they have no other option.
Maria Robinson2 Maria Robinson2 Active Member
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joined Feb 2012
#12 ·
Dennis Bennett28 said:When I think about diving into the subconscious, I’m really picturing people who simply find more fulfillment tucked away in their own thoughts than they do hanging out in a crowd. And honestly? It’s not like there’s anything wrong with them. Let’s be real—socializing can actually be pretty draining after a while; it can totally suck the wind right out of your sails! Especially when the conversation inevitably turns into a relentless loop of "me, myself, and I."😁

Well, that’s a different matter entirely. Society is the problem here. You should probably try to change your surroundings so you don't end up an unknown—because as you mature, you'll likely drift away from your old circles due to circumstances beyond your control. If you don't find a new tribe elsewhere, then—well—you've just created another loner. 🙂

Is that roughly how the story goes?
rustymaker5 rustymaker5 Regular
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#13 ·
I’m someone who genuinely loves being around people, but when I’m not, I love being by myself just as much.
At the end of the day, you’re always stuck with yourself—there’s no other way to exist—so if that isn't enough for you, if you can't find fulfillment within your own skin, then you're in trouble... because then you start chasing after other people to fill a void that actually lives inside you, which, let’s face it, is a total Sisyphus task.
I don't know if that has anything to do with how old your soul feels, or how deep into the subconscious it goes, but I do know that even when I’m alone, I don't feel lonely—it’s more like I feel full, like life is complete and nothing vital is missing... though, if some great company happens to show up, I am absolutely down for that too! 😍

For instance, a little while back, circumstances landed me at a quiet beach house for two months, just me and my dog, with zero internet, no TV, just the occasional chat with a neighbor here and there, and honestly, it was incredible (normally I wouldn't have lasted that long)... usually, I’m online every single day, scrolling through this forum or watching something on TV, so you might think I couldn't survive without all that noise, but clearly, that's not the case.
So, do I have the tendencies of an unknown? Maybe... it looks like I'm the type who is perfectly fine on my own, but I’m also the type who will happily join the pack whenever I run into one and enjoy the company for as long as it suits me. 😁
brighteagle39 brighteagle39 Active Member
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#14 ·
The very first thing that popped into my mind when I saw this thread's title was the Steppenwolf by Herman Hesse. It struck me that perhaps Hesse’s wolf is the only truly "authentic" lone wolf out there—that quintessential individual standing firm against the hypocrisy of society. Even though the novel was written nearly ninety years ago, I can't help but feel its themes remain just as relevant today.
Maria Robinson2 Maria Robinson2 Active Member
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#15 ·
brighteagle39 said:The very first thing that popped into my mind when I saw this thread's title was the Steppenwolf by Herman Hesse. It struck me that perhaps Hesse’s wolf is the only truly "authentic" lone wolf out there—that quintessential individual standing firm against the hypocrisy of society. Even though the novel was written nearly ninety years ago, I can't help but feel its themes remain just as relevant today.

Yes, it's relevant. Anyone who has read Hesse knows how easy it is to become a lone wolf.
The thing is, though—well, if anyone actually cares about being depressed—people don't bond through bad intentions; they connect through good ones, I guess.
brighteagle39 brighteagle39 Active Member
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#16 ·
Maria Robinson2 said:Yes, it's relevant. Anyone who has read Hesse knows how easy it is to become a lone wolf.
The thing is, though—well, if anyone actually cares about being depressed—people don't bond through bad intentions; they connect through good ones, I guess.

Even Harry Haller eventually came to that realization, though it took him quite a bit longer to get there than most of us would like.
Just a soul that was perhaps a little too sensitive for its own good.😁
Jerry Sullivan60 Jerry Sullivan60 Newcomer
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#17 ·
Justin Garcia7 said:When people hear the term "lone wolf," they usually think of social outcasts—people who struggle to make friends, feel disconnected, or just can't navigate a crowd. They picture the emotionally wounded or the extreme introverts.

But that’s not what I’m talking about here. I’m referring to people who actually have plenty of friends, love going out, and are totally approachable and outgoing. They aren't oddballs; they just happen to prefer their own company most of the time because they genuinely enjoy being alone.

I’ve met a few people like this, and they all describe themselves as old souls. They aren't particularly interested in worldly pursuits and tend to view themselves as spiritual people.

This ties back to the concept of introversion versus extroversion. There’s a common misconception that personality is defined by these labels, but I read somewhere that it’s really about where you draw your energy—from being around others or from being by yourself. For instance, a colleague of mine is incredibly talkative and social; she makes friends effortlessly and screams "extrovert" to anyone watching. Yet, she describes herself as a lone wolf who finds her greatest peace in solitude. On the flip side, I know so many people who can't stand being alone. They feel bored without distraction, constantly inviting people over, and often admit they feel empty when they aren't in someone's company.

I’m one of them myself. Instead of heading out tonight, I’d much rather meditate, dive into a book, contemplate, observe, build my inner world, or work on writing.😁 I find that being alone is the only way I can truly "center" myself, returning to that point of calm and balance before I head back out to face the world again.

To be clear, I know plenty of people with actual social struggles or emotional baggage who call themselves "old souls" or "spiritual" simply because they don't know how to connect with others or lack a support system. This post isn't about them. It's about emotionally mature, well-adjusted individuals who have everything they need, yet choose solitude as their primary source of energy.

I’d argue that these true lone wolves are more deeply connected to their authentic selves. What do you all think?

That pretty much sums it up. Aside from that, I don't feel like I'm fighting anything anymore; there's nothing left to push against. People who used to be "friends" just drifted away because they couldn't handle my frequency. And honestly, I wouldn't try to pull anyone else up to mine if they didn't want to be there. I have friends, sure, but we're all pretty solitary souls regardless of where we are. Then there are the people who aren't lonely, but they're always somewhere else—below me, above me, it doesn't matter... either way, I've known for a long time now that I'm an old soul. Like, a really, really old soul.

To wrap things up, the answer is: Yes.
Michael Castillo Michael Castillo Member
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#18 ·
Justin Garcia7 said:When people hear the term "lone wolf," they usually think of social outcasts—people who struggle to make friends, feel disconnected, or just can't navigate a crowd. They picture the emotionally wounded or the extreme introverts.

But that’s not what I’m talking about here. I’m referring to people who actually have plenty of friends, love going out, and are totally approachable and outgoing. They aren't oddballs; they just happen to prefer their own company most of the time because they genuinely enjoy being alone.

I’ve met a few people like this, and they all describe themselves as old souls. They aren't particularly interested in worldly pursuits and tend to view themselves as spiritual people.

This ties back to the concept of introversion versus extroversion. There’s a common misconception that personality is defined by these labels, but I read somewhere that it’s really about where you draw your energy—from being around others or from being by yourself. For instance, a colleague of mine is incredibly talkative and social; she makes friends effortlessly and screams "extrovert" to anyone watching. Yet, she describes herself as a lone wolf who finds her greatest peace in solitude. On the flip side, I know so many people who can't stand being alone. They feel bored without distraction, constantly inviting people over, and often admit they feel empty when they aren't in someone's company.

I’m one of them myself. Instead of heading out tonight, I’d much rather meditate, dive into a book, contemplate, observe, build my inner world, or work on writing.😁 I find that being alone is the only way I can truly "center" myself, returning to that point of calm and balance before I head back out to face the world again.

To be clear, I know plenty of people with actual social struggles or emotional baggage who call themselves "old souls" or "spiritual" simply because they don't know how to connect with others or lack a support system. This post isn't about them. It's about emotionally mature, well-adjusted individuals who have everything they need, yet choose solitude as their primary source of energy.

I’d argue that these true lone wolves are more deeply connected to their authentic selves. What do you all think?

Exactly.

unknown:
This ties back into the whole introversion vs. extroversion thing. There's this misconception that someone's core character is dictated by whether they're an introvert or an extrovert.
The whole intro/extro debate is interesting to me—people who actually know me see me as a total extrovert, yet my test results say I'm mostly an introvert.

unknown:
Take a coworker of mine, for example. She’s the life of the party, incredibly social, makes friends effortlessly, and her entire vibe screams "extrovert"—yet she tells me she's a lone wolf who finds the most peace being by herself.
Yeah, that sounds like me.
Michael Castillo Michael Castillo Member
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#19 ·
unknown
Dennis Bennett28 said:From an astrological perspective, the ruler of my first house—the one that defines my core personality and natural inclinations—is Pluto in Scorpio, sitting right in the twelfth house, which is basically the "prison" zone or the house of isolation. Because of that placement, I find a lot of peace in being alone, even though I can definitely hold my own and have a great time when I'm out with others. It’s just not something I do very often or for very long. 😁

I like to think of it this way: lone wolves tend to spend much more time exploring their own subconscious than the rest of the pack does. 😁

Yeah, that too.
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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#20 ·
We're talking about weirdos here... honestly, though—it all comes down to what kind of person we're dealing with. Like, what they actually do when they're alone? That's the real kicker.

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