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Meadow and the Religion Controversy

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Participants Brandon Allen3Tyler Cruz32Harold Nguyen6Michelle EvansNicole JamesWilliam Bennett53
Brandon Allen3 Brandon Allen3 NewcomerOP
6 messages
joined Feb 2013
#1 ·
Back in the day, the former ZgSash admin actually went on record saying that believers in Religion get special treatment, and that nobody should have an issue with it. It just sailed right through without anyone noticing... let alone any consequences. Great. Just great... 🙄

Now Tyler Cruz32 is back at it, following in the footsteps of those medieval villains... probably looking for role models there. Just constant crusades over anything that could even remotely be linked to homosexuality.
First, they locked my thread about that whole "cursed man" situation just because one of the participants—and I wasn't even the one who brought it up first—decided to pivot to homosexuality. They wiped the posts with that usual "stay on topic" warning... even though we were staying on track. Honestly, the lady is clearly homophobic to her core, and apparently, anything starting with certain topics just rubs her the wrong way... man...Probably thinks so too... Homo sapiens... just a bunch of hairless primates wandering around trying to make sense of it all. Sometimes you wonder if we're actually getting anywhere or just spinning our wheels... turns out we're mostly just reacting to things. Typical. Labeling someone a wise queer... 👍Whatever, it doesn't matter. I asked Nico to just delete the thread because I couldn't be bothered to tilt at windmills...

No, Tyler Cruz32 is at it again. She just locked the thread on homosexuality—a massive discussion with nearly 8,000 posts—without any warning whatsoever. Nothing. Then I get a DM telling me I’ve been slapped with 45 points for "insulting behavior," based on this one sentence...

Nonsense like who’s pushing what or where they can shove it is only something those ultra-Catholic, sanctimonious sheep would care about... not someone with an actual brain.

I'm still waiting for more info... turns out I need the actual content to work with. Send over the text you want me to flip. Once you do, I'll get to it. No fluff, just the rewrite. Ready when you are... book of complaints I asked the moderator over on the Religion forum exactly where and who I was supposedly offending, but she keeps dodging the question. She just gives me the same vague answers from one post to the next without actually pointing out what’s wrong. I’m not playing dumb here. That whole topic—the book of complaints—isn't meant for verbal sparring...

There it is.
I’m asking the admins, supermods, Anderlon, and everyone else to just explain something to me. What exactly am I doing wrong here? Who am I supposed to be offending? And does this whole penalty point system actually mean anything... Tyler Cruz32, you can sit this one out. I really don't feel like reading another lecture from you about how I'm just playing dumb and that everything is perfectly fine.

Thanks in advance. 🙂
Tyler Cruz32 Tyler Cruz32 Active Member
50 messages
joined Oct 2012
#2 ·
Brandon Allen3 wants to go on a rampage alongside Angela regarding homosexuality, but since he was sanctioned with a warning, he’s acting as if the issue with his previous statement simply doesn't exist.

Furthermore, within our official thread—even after I provided a detailed explanation to a fellow user as to why his comment was offensive (which I assume he understands)—he continues to violate the rules by trolling. He labels the organization on behalf of families as "on behalf of clerofascists" and calls those who organized the referendum idiots, all while using large, red lettering. When I delete such outbursts, he avoids a sanction because apparently, I am just being homophobic or unintelligent, I guess. It clearly isn't enough for him, as he has now opened this new thread to insult and disparage me, yet he still pretends to be oblivious to why he received a warning in the first place.

I have every right to lock a thread when it becomes necessary, and since it is evident that a civil conversation cannot occur in that thread without a constant police presence, I found exactly that when I went online yesterday. Meanwhile, Brandon Allen3 failed to report a SINGLE post for rule violations—demonstrating how little he actually cares about a decent debate—and instead merely piggybacked off someone else's trolling to deliver his controversial remark.

You may attempt to insult me as much as you wish; everyone is well aware of my commitment to equality and democracy. However, the fact that you are accusing me without cause, simply because you are unhappy with the scheduled referendum and want to push whatever nonsense comes to mind, says everything about your conduct.

I have nothing further to add on this matter.
You are free to find another forum where people will allow you to spout nonsense about intelligence or call organizations "on behalf of clerofascists."

Regards.

Finally, for Dorian and Nica, here is a link that perfectly illustrates the full extent of his rhetoric, his insinuations, and the nonsense he attempts to push:

And quite frankly, the existence of certain rude atheists who feel the need to insult, disparage, and lash out rather than engaging in a polite discussion on the topic at hand is not my concern. If anyone feels slighted because they aren't permitted to behave this way, they are more than welcome to start a blog to showcase their rhetorical "brilliance."
Brandon Allen3 Brandon Allen3 NewcomerOP
6 messages
joined Feb 2013
#3 ·
Which part of "Tyler Cruz32 can just sit this one out" was too complicated for you?

Since we're talking though:
- I’d much rather you just shut me down than delete my posts. Thanks.
- You can take that whole speech about being dedicated to democracy and equality and shove it. You're deleting one guy's posts and locking his threads without a single word of explanation, all because someone—and I don't see any other reason—handed you the disciplinary cards. Stop handing them out like you're at a union rally, me in the Government, and this is May Day... if you actually know how to justify why you're doing it.
- Yeah, I'm frustrated about that recent referendum. My apologies to you and your buddies for undermining democracy and equality like that. And no, I'm not sorry for calling people clerofascists when they hang out with the clergy and push fascism. What else am I supposed to call them?

P.S. And yeah, that referendum was pure clerofascism. The group fighting for it was just a bunch of clerofascists. In the country I live in, 80% of people voted NO because they couldn't care less who's sleeping with whom, unlike those mindless, clerofascist American sheep.
And that isn't an insult, it's just a fact. Insults are directed at specific people, not entire groups.
Harold Nguyen6 Harold Nguyen6 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Nov 2013
#4 ·
I mean, how do you even manage to screw up a country where 80% of the people actually adore you? It’s not like you're dealing with those mindless, religious-extremist sheep here in America. 🤷
Honestly, you're becoming a total one-of-a-kind specimen—just keep doing what you're doing, because believe me, plenty of people are going to be thanking you for it...
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
320 messages
joined Jan 2013
#5 ·
The Supermoderator will review the complaint. In the meantime, please be patient and refrain from any insults...
Nicole James Nicole James Regular
313 messages
joined Dec 2010
#6 ·
I honestly don't even know where to start here. This post is loaded with blatant personal attacks against the referendum participants—calling them "brainless, saintly little sheep" and whatnot. A ban was definitely warranted in this case.
Nicole James Nicole James Regular
313 messages
joined Dec 2010
#7 ·
Insults have been swapped out for a troll card following a consultation with the admins.
Brandon Allen3 Brandon Allen3 NewcomerOP
6 messages
joined Feb 2013
#8 ·
Yeah, okay: since there’s absolutely nothing in the current forum rules regarding a deadline for appeals, I’m asking administration for this:
Tyler Cruz32 said:Brandon Allen3 wants to go on a rampage alongside Angela regarding homosexuality, but since he was sanctioned with a warning, he’s acting as if the issue with his previous statement simply doesn't exist.

Furthermore, within our official thread—even after I provided a detailed explanation to a fellow user as to why his comment was offensive (which I assume he understands)—he continues to violate the rules by trolling. He labels the organization on behalf of families as "on behalf of clerofascists" and calls those who organized the referendum idiots, all while using large, red lettering. When I delete such outbursts, he avoids a sanction because apparently, I am just being homophobic or unintelligent, I guess. It clearly isn't enough for him, as he has now opened this new thread to insult and disparage me, yet he still pretends to be oblivious to why he received a warning in the first place.

I have every right to lock a thread when it becomes necessary, and since it is evident that a civil conversation cannot occur in that thread without a constant police presence, I found exactly that when I went online yesterday. Meanwhile, Brandon Allen3 failed to report a SINGLE post for rule violations—demonstrating how little he actually cares about a decent debate—and instead merely piggybacked off someone else's trolling to deliver his controversial remark.

You may attempt to insult me as much as you wish; everyone is well aware of my commitment to equality and democracy. However, the fact that you are accusing me without cause, simply because you are unhappy with the scheduled referendum and want to push whatever nonsense comes to mind, says everything about your conduct.

I have nothing further to add on this matter.
You are free to find another forum where people will allow you to spout nonsense about intelligence or call organizations "on behalf of clerofascists."

Regards.

Finally, for Dorian and Nica, here is a link that perfectly illustrates the full extent of his rhetoric, his insinuations, and the nonsense he attempts to push:

And quite frankly, the existence of certain rude atheists who feel the need to insult, disparage, and lash out rather than engaging in a polite discussion on the topic at hand is not my concern. If anyone feels slighted because they aren't permitted to behave this way, they are more than welcome to start a blog to showcase their rhetorical "brilliance."

the administration is sanctioning Tyler Cruz32.
I have no idea where the moderator gets the right to label me an atheist. It was deeply offensive to my religious beliefs and caused significant spiritual distress.

That's it.

P.S. No, I'm not trolling. This is a legitimate grievance. Because if I can get hit with a massive amount of points just for calling certain people clerical-fascist sheep, then I guess the moderator should be held to the same standard for indirectly grouping me in with atheists...
William Bennett53 William Bennett53 Regular
491 messages
joined Sep 2016
#9 ·
Bryan, I’m locking this thread because of the trolling. You are attempting to draw a false equivalence between the blatant mockery of believers—calling them "clerical-fascist sheep"—and the standard terminology used for supporters of atheism.

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