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velvetrider velvetrider Active MemberOP
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joined Aug 2009
#1 ·
First off, thanks for the quick reply and for taking the time out of your day, I guess, but after reading it, it feels like you didn't actually intend to say anything useful—just kind of aimed to dismiss my post and take a cheap shot at me.

So, yeah, it would be pretty cool if you could just answer the actual question.
Plus, your tone is incredibly sarcastic, which seems to fly right in the face of what the admins recommended, and honestly, it just feels like you're trying to belittle me.

And that suggestion of mine to send her to DMs? Why?

I don't see the point, really. I doubt she’d be interested in talking to me professionally anyway, since pathology and forensics are my field—aside from construction, obviously.
Given how your protégé keeps complaining that nobody understands her—from what I can tell by the threads, anyone with half a brain could figure out she already knows what she’s talking about. It's just pure ego, I suppose.

It’s pretty obvious you’re playing the Good Samaritan here, acting all high and mighty, but I should probably remind you:

"Helping the poor just to embarrass them."


A blade has two edges, and I noticed I'm not the only one asking questions that test her comprehension... I wish her the best, truly; hopefully she finds her way, if not wisdom, then at least some luck.

Whether this whole thing is serious or just her being ridiculous by failing to grasp the saying:

here are the facts:

quoting her:

"If they have no bread, let them eat cake"

her response was basically—well, that back then, they were baking cakes at the same price. 🙄

Florence said:It's super obvious you're just being biased, especially with the whole "eat cake" thing. Did you even know that back in the day, bakers in New York were legally required to sell cakes at the price of bread during shortages? Probably not, because if you did, your perspective wouldn't be so narrow.

The fact that people didn't have money isn't the point, right?

And here’s a little more "culture" from Florence:

"Josef Fritzl didn't commit a crime"
Florence said:He's definitely just an unfortunate man built on shaky foundations. Unhappy people can't spread happiness...

Well, Fritzl got sentenced—to life in a mental facility. Do you even realize what that means? Personally, I think that's way worse than the death penalty.

It seems to me we've known each other long enough for you both to jump to conclusions immediately, and it's pretty clear you're both just clashing because of some sort of vendetta and condescension.

Why does that premise matter?

As for your claim that I'm experiencing some kind of fixation or projection... no, that's just not true. What we're seeing is just a lack of understanding and basic knowledge from your starter, combined with inhibitions against rational thought, an inability to handle different viewpoints, and just total dadaism.

There's more:

Look, I’ve always been an animal lover—really, I can't stand seeing them disrespected—and honestly, it seems like people are missing the point about what "culture" actually means. It's something you're supposed to find within yourself, which was kind of the whole idea behind the question.

Sorry, but that's just how it is. It rubbed me the wrong way seeing her make those kinds of comparisons, whether they're accurate or not.

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I guess I'll just prove my point over at the philosophy department, since it feels pretty out of line to act all condescending and arrogant here.

Nothing personal, really. I wasn't trying to take shots at such a harmonious trio, but maybe it's time we look at who's actually steering the ship in the humanities... I mean, even from a plane, it's pretty obvious when a tree isn't bearing any fruit.

hinc illae lacrimae

Thanks for your time, ma'am—consider this a polite little bow.

velvetrider
velvetrider velvetrider Active MemberOP
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joined Aug 2009
#2 ·
Thanks—you even threw in some arugula... at least you're actually reading, assuming this isn't just some weird case of self-loathing
but hey, I really hope they get back to you, because real people should probably own up to what they say.
Hopefully, you'll get an answer before the reaper comes knocking.

Cheers,

velvetrider
electrictiger70 electrictiger70 Active Member
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joined Jan 2008
#3 ·
velvetrider, don't try to drag me into whatever drama is happening between you and Florence. I have zero interest in it. The only reason I deleted your posts was because they were completely off-topic for that specific thread. If you can't grasp what the actual subject matter is—which is culture analyzed through a social science lens—and why you can't just jump in out of nowhere to claim someone is being "uncultured" based on your own personal standards, then I honestly don't know how else to make this clear to you.

My point was simple: if you feel the need to settle personal grievances, use private messages instead of hijacking threads that have nothing to do with your issues. I was trying to say that particular topic isn't the place for a random tangent about Josef Fritzl, just like it isn't the place here. I couldn't care less about debating what you, she, or I said in some ancient thread ages ago. 🤷 That’s exactly why I used the word "fixation." I didn't know any other way to describe your obsession with dissecting who said what in a discussion from years back.

And let me be clear: my response wasn't an attempt to mock or belittle you; it was an explanation. But since it seems like you interpret every single one of my posts however you want to—constructing these imaginary conspiracies where I'm somehow against you—I won't bother explaining myself to you anymore. That doesn't mean I'll stop enforcing the rules. If posts violate the site guidelines or the community handbook, they will still be sanctioned. 👋
velvetrider velvetrider Active MemberOP
52 messages
joined Aug 2009
#4 ·
Thanks electrictiger70, but...

I mean, culture—and everything that comes with being a civilized person—really flows from one individual... if they can actually spark something in everyone else. It's like how Peter the Great or Frederick had influence, or even how Alexander had Aristotle guiding him. You get what I'm trying to say?

It’s about disagreement with logic, or just plain missing the point. But since I pretty much view you as a mentor here, my experience tells me there's a real issue with direction—it feels like things are losing control.

Honestly, I don't care about her words or her little habit of calling people "writers"—which she also used to call me a pig-butcher and an idiot. I'm more interested in her mental state... specifically how she tries to push her perceptions as absolute truth, even though she keeps getting caught in lies and ignorance.

Did she actually ask what culture is, or was that just more vague rambling? Because as soon as I gave her an honest answer, you immediately drew your sword... but why? A pen is mightier than a sword, something you probably know better than anyone.

I was addressing her as the one who started the question, not critiquing her commentary. Besides, I wrote my response to everyone in the thread... so where did this idea come from that it was just aimed at her?
Yeah, I know. Truth hurts, especially when it involves realizing she didn't have the capacity to grasp the basics.
The only way I find her interesting is from a "professional" standpoint. I have zero interest in her personally...

It’s pretty obvious even here... I'm not the only one who noticed "someone" has started acting all high and mighty... though we already knew who was behind it.

I laid out my arguments. It's your right to delete them, sure, but if I'm pointing out that you're wrong—that you're trying to protect someone causing problems under the guise of being altruistic—is that really the solution? It's not my place to ask, really, but I genuinely want her to do well... again, that's your call, but... rights come with responsibilities, and it's just decent to listen to both sides. Time will tell.
And for her, time ran out a long time ago, because nobody understands her anymore... she just keeps repeating the same stuff over and over.

I'm not saying it's just my opinion that she's being uncivilized; it's a visible fact. This isn't just alienation for her anymore; it's become part of who she is. That's her right, and I doubt she'll change, which I'm fine with... but since she claims to be a keeper of knowledge—constantly mentioning how much she reads while humbly claiming she just agrees with everything she reads, which says plenty about her cognitive skills—and acts as a sort of moderator, I have to wonder if this is good for her. It might be smarter if she just stepped down.
She needs a break, then maybe she can come back stronger. Right now, she's become a Quasimodo spirituality.
So, I'm offering an olive branch, not a wave of the hand.

Like Jesenjin so beautifully put it... "a parting without our will promises a reunion, doesn't it?"


Just so we're clear, it's not like I "dislike" you. Thanks for your time... but seriously, read back what you wrote. Someone is still hiding in the woods.

velvetrider

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