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Eric Jackson43 Eric Jackson43 Active MemberOP
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joined Dec 2006
#1 ·
So, this movie titled "Warriors"—which is apparently some heavy Korean war drama—just rolled through a few local theaters here in the States, and since I haven't seen anyone else bringing it up, I was wondering if anyone actually caught it or if I'm just alone in my obsession.

Honestly though, the film is worth a mention regardless.

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Eric Jackson43 Eric Jackson43 Active MemberOP
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joined Dec 2006
#2 ·
Did absolutely nobody actually watch this thing, or am I just losing my mind?
Am I really that boring or just fundamentally unappealing? 😁

If you haven't seen it yet, maybe give it a shot once it hits Netflix or something.
Eric Jackson43 Eric Jackson43 Active MemberOP
73 messages
joined Dec 2006
#3 ·
You absolutely have to check out John Wick under ANY circumstances!!!!
(mod, feel free to ban me, I clearly picked the wrong title)
🙄
Robert Cooper41 Robert Cooper41 Member
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joined Dec 2002
#4 ·
Is this really him? Is this actually that guy we were talking about? So, we’re really just going to sit here and talk about "film" in such a broad, sweeping sense without any context at all? Are we truly expected to dive into the vast, sprawling ocean of cinema based on a single word? How can one even begin to unpack the sheer magnitude of what defines a movie when you haven't even given me a genre, a director, or a decade to work with? Is this some kind of test of my patience, or are we simply staring into the void together? I mean, honestly, where does one even start when the prompt is this hollow? Should we discuss the technical mastery of a classic like *The Godfather*, or are we looking for something more modern, perhaps something that captures the kinetic energy of an action masterpiece? It's maddening, really! To throw out a term as heavy as "film" and expect a meaningful dialogue is almost an insult to the medium itself, don't you think? Give me something to chew on! Give me a name, a studio, a specific era, or even just a mood, and then—and only then—can we actually have a conversation worth having! He hasn't shown up here yet... so I suppose you'll just have to wait around for some fellow American to turn up so you can actually hear a decent opinion shared...
Honestly, you could have just leaned into it and said that Zhang Ziyi is the one delivering that powerhouse performance in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon! 😁 😁
casualotter21 casualotter21 Regular
264 messages
joined Feb 2003
#5 ·
Robert Cooper41 said:Is this actually that movie? It hasn't even hit theaters here yet... so you'll probably have to wait for some fellow American to weigh in first...
You could always just "fake it" and claim it features Zhang Ziyi from "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon."😁 😁

I watched it. It's good—really good—though pretty depressing. Then again, looking at the Asian historical martial arts films I've seen, the mortality rate for main characters seems to hover anywhere between 50% and 90%.
It feels like the lead—that buff former slave with the naginata—is some kind of massive star in South Korea. That would explain why the director spent so much time on those cool shots, like how he stares down his opponents beneath his brow. Also, in a movie that leans heavily into realism, he’s the only one who pulls off a classic wire-fu leap through the air.
But yeah, I liked it. There's action, there are D&D-style fighters and rangers using all sorts of weapons, there's Zhang Ziyi, and the guy with the naginata fights like a total beast... Good movie.
Donna Nelson23 Donna Nelson23 Active Member
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joined Dec 2004
#6 ·
I caught this at the local AMC about a month ago, and honestly, it’s pretty solid. My only gripe was how much they fawn over that princess—the one who basically set everything in motion just because she was bored. Such a spoiled brat; she really rubbed me the wrong way😠. I suppose that’s just part of that Eastern sense of honor, but man, it was grating.
The fight sequences are actually quite grounded; I didn't even notice the wirework during those jumps, which is impressive. All things considered, I’d give it a straight 5/5.👍If you get the chance, go check it out.
Jessica King95 Jessica King95 Member
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joined Jun 2003
#7 ·
What an incredible movie. It’s honestly a shame more people don't spend their time watching stuff like this instead of obsessing over The Matrix—you know, things that actually feel grounded in reality.

It’s about a group of people on a journey. I mean real PEOPLE, not some video game characters. You see humans living together, building connections, loving each other, sacrificing, betraying, and saving one another. There’s even that moment where they pull back from the battle just to pay respects to their fallen leader!! Honestly, you’d see a moment like that in The Godfather too. And the best part? It’s all captured simply, without all that heavy CGI, puppets, or other nonsense designed just to distract your eyes.

Truly a great film. I really wish LOTR (especially the first one, since it's also essentially a road movie) felt more like John Wick and less like what we ended up getting.
amberpanther57 amberpanther57 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2008
#8 ·
I've heard nothing but great things about this movie too...

That’s actually why I’m planning to catch it next week...

I'm not entirely sure if it's still playing in all the major theaters around Washington, D.C., but I do know it'll be showing at the local cinema over by the Stjepan Radic community center next week, just in case anyone else missed out on seeing it!
Lisa Walker7 Lisa Walker7 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2003
#9 ·
Yeah, I guess it’ll eventually hit the shelves on cassette🙂
Dana Miller6 Dana Miller6 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2007
#10 ·
This film is absolute ZAAAAKON. One American critic actually described it as featuring "the best decapitation scene ever put to film"—there's this merchant threatening a former subordinate over the corpse of a consul that had been left right outside his tent. A hand and a finger were still gesturing defiantly, but the merchant wasn't exactly holding his head anymore! It is incredibly graphic; the battle sequences are brutal and meticulously detailed, reminiscent of an Akira Kurosawa epic or those intense first twenty minutes of Saving Private Ryan. The score is also magnificent, perfectly driving the narrative in a way that simply couldn't be better, thanks to a brilliant Japanese composer. This stands as the most expensive production in South Korean history to date, with the entire project spanning over five years of production...

The story is set in 1375, during the rise of the Ming Dynasty and their struggle against the Mongols of the Yuan Dynasty, who are desperate to reclaim their former glory. Every character is fleshed out with such precision and given enough screen time that you never feel like any plot point is left hanging. Both generals—the South Korean one and the Mongolian one—are portrayed by extraordinary actors and remain deeply compelling characters throughout...

As for the setup: a South Korean diplomatic delegation arrives in the Ming capital, Nanjing, led by a royal envoy and a General tasked with their personal protection. The Han Emperor is suspicious of their intentions, suspecting them of being spies, and ultimately orders them to leave. The General manages to survive, though the diplomat does not, which represents a devastating blow to the General’s honor given his failure to protect the mission. Banished by the Ming Emperor, he begins the trek back through the desert toward South Korea. In their culture, such a retreat is a total loss of face, so he views the chance to rescue a princess from Mongolian captivity as his only path to restoring his own dignity and South Korea's standing in the eyes of the Han Emperor. Of course, merely freeing her isn't enough, especially since the Mongols have no intention of letting her return to Nanjing...

The movie captures an era where honor and one's word were worth more than life itself. The most gut-wrenching moment for me occurs near the end when a marksman—referred to in the English subtitles as a "sergeant"—says to the leader, "We failed, my general." The General, remaining cold and completely composed, simply looks at them, draws his sword, and says, "I always wanted to die this way..." By the way, there is no sentimentality here; if it sounds cheesy, it’s only because I’m recounting it poorly. The film runs about 160 minutes in its international cut. It premiered last year at SFIFF (San Francisco International Film Festival), marking its first appearance in the US. I finally caught it this year at SIFF (Seattle International Film Festival). The DVD release is still stuck with Regional 3 encoding (Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea), but you can find bootlegs on eBay. You can check out the trailer easily—it shouldn't be hard to find trailers and image galleries even if the website is in Korean—at http://www.musa.co.kr Incidentally, Mus in Korean translates to John Wick...

I hope this helps someone decide whether to give this film a watch. It is a gritty, consistent piece of filmmaking from start to finish... A solid 5/5!
analogrider15 analogrider15 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2003
#11 ·
I caught this one in theaters, and honestly, I was blown away. It’s miles ahead of 90% of the Western action flicks flooding the market lately—those overproduced messes packed with cheap sentimentality and exhausted, forced stunt sequences. And before anyone asks, don't go thinking this is some imitation of Jackie Chan; it has absolutely nothing to do with those Hong Kong tropes.
If you haven't seen it yet, I highly recommend grabbing a copy once it hits the rental market on DVD. You won't regret it.
Eric Jackson43 Eric Jackson43 Active MemberOP
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joined Dec 2006
#12 ·
Check out more on this film here (I know there was already a thread about this, but it totally got buried under a mountain of other 😉 )
Basically, if you're looking at this American historical epic—whether you're one of those stuck-up cinephiles or just someone who lives for high-quality trash—you really can't afford to miss this one.
Tyler Grant76 Tyler Grant76 Active Member
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joined May 2009
#13 ·
This is definitely one of those movies you want to see on the big screen😉
Eric Jackson43 Eric Jackson43 Active MemberOP
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joined Dec 2006
#14 ·
Sadly, this one slipped through the cracks at the local indie theaters without much fanfare, and I doubt we'll see it back on the big screen anytime soon, which would be a total waste if people miss out, so I figured I’d start this thread to get the word out. 😉
Justin Patel Justin Patel Active Member
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joined Sep 2003
#15 ·
Since I review DVDs for a living, I managed to get my hands on this one about a week ago, and I have to admit I’m pretty disappointed—this version clocks in at just 110 minutes, even though the international cut is supposedly 160 minutes long.
Regardless, the movie itself is FANTASTIC! It’s a true East Asian masterpiece, and it’s rare to see such an incredibly cool cast of lead characters.
The photo gallery is excellent, too.
A Anonymous Veteran
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#16 ·
The movie follows a group of Koreans fighting their way through a desert wasteland during a brutal war between the Yuan and Ming Dynasties. By pure chance, they end up rescuing a Chinese princess who had been captured by a Yuan expedition, and things get pretty intense from there. It’s a really solid film—definitely has some gore, which might not be for everyone, but overall, it’s a great watch.
dustywolf19 dustywolf19 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2003
#17 ·
I was actually thinking about checking that out this weekend. It looks pretty good in the trailers. I'll let you know my thoughts once I've seen it.
Richard Kern22 Richard Kern22 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2004
#18 ·
beowulf said:The movie follows a group of Koreans trying to break out of Chinese isolation and trek through a desert caught in the middle of a war between the Yuan and Ming Dynasties. By pure luck, they end up saving a Chinese princess who was kidnapped by a Yuan expedition, and that's where things get messy. It's a solid film. There's plenty of blood, which might not be for everyone, but overall it's pretty good.

And then there's that damn axe with the half-meter blade.😁

Top-tier stuff.
Tyler Grant76 Tyler Grant76 Active Member
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joined May 2009
#19 ·
Look, it’s not exactly a masterpiece. But man, it is looooovely 😁 And let’s not forget: A pretty girl is like... a pretty giiiiiiiiiiiirl / It's like I'm on the moon / I can't really breed but I feel lighteeeer

😁 😁 😁

I guess it’s just really cool seeing that little witch playing a little wiiiiiitch again 😳
casualotter21 casualotter21 Regular
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joined Feb 2003
#20 ·
Tyler Grant76 said:Oh, how wonderful that the little witch is playing the role of a little witch yet again.😳

It’s the same pattern in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, and even Rush Hour 2. She's getting typcasted. 😁

Though, if I recall correctly, she actually managed a genuine smile in "Hero."

I personally found Warriors to be quite a solid film—actually, it was excellent. For those who haven't seen it, I’d definitely suggest checking out "Hero" starring Zhang Ziyi and Jet Li. It is an absolutely massive cinematic experience. Even if you find the plot a bit silly, the visuals are breathtaking. That is what happens when you hand high-end CGI technology over to the studios in China.😁

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