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Participants Sam Wright21Timothy Davis59rustydrifter10Sophia Thomas7melloworca6hollowtrucker77dustyranger64Jack Bishop94Joshua Jones13
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 RegularOP
402 messages
joined Jul 2016
#1 ·
Well, I actually went ahead and requested a permanent ban from Lies just to escape that moderator who refuses to follow any actual logic.

But even then, he manages to haunt me over at Linguistics. It feels like a lost cause 🙂 The man is simply immune to reason.

I’m asking if you could please reverse my Permaban on Lies; I used to find such fascinating psychological discussions there, and unfortunately, they aren't available here in the USA, which leaves me with nowhere to ask questions or offer advice.

As for Philosophy, I took a permanent ban there too, though the Executioner operates with a much more sophisticated level of malice.

dustyranger64 isn't quite like that, so I suspect I could easily bypass him just for the sake of my own amusement.

What’s your take on all this?

Best,
Timothy Davis59 Timothy Davis59 Member
18 messages
joined May 2013
#2 ·
Knowing how you usually talk on the Newsweek forums, I don't think dustyranger64 or any of the other moderators are at fault here.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#3 ·
Sam Wright21, you really should probably take a quick look at the community guidelines before jumping into a thread like this. You can't just come in here swinging a bunch of accusations around without providing any actual proof; honestly, it feels pretty insulting, and frankly, it’s just classic trolling and a total violation of the rules.

Also, just so we're clear, the rules state that partial bans requested by users follow the exact same protocol as those handed out by the moderators themselves. If you're hoping to get that ban from Lies removed, you'll have to wait for the actual moderators to make that call.
Sophia Thomas7 Sophia Thomas7 Active Member
183 messages
joined Aug 2015
#4 ·
Sam Wright21 said:Well, I actually went ahead and requested a permanent ban from Lies just to escape that moderator who refuses to follow any actual logic.

But even then, he manages to haunt me over at Linguistics. It feels like a lost cause 🙂 The man is simply immune to reason.

I’m asking if you could please reverse my Permaban on Lies; I used to find such fascinating psychological discussions there, and unfortunately, they aren't available here in the USA, which leaves me with nowhere to ask questions or offer advice.

As for Philosophy, I took a permanent ban there too, though the Executioner operates with a much more sophisticated level of malice.

dustyranger64 isn't quite like that, so I suspect I could easily bypass him just for the sake of my own amusement.

What’s your take on all this?

Best,


If I’m reading you right, you’re having issues with dustyranger64. Because of that, you sought out a partial ban on Lies. Now you're running into trouble on other subreddits where he's a moderator, yet you're asking to have the partial ban removed from Lies where he's also a moderator?

What exactly would be the reasoning for moderators to collectively agree to lift a partial ban?
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 RegularOP
402 messages
joined Jul 2016
#5 ·
Look, my first instinct was to just request a permanent ban from every single board he moderates, but once I actually thought about it, I realized how futile and pointless that would be.

Besides, you remember that whole mess over on the Linguistics thread, don't you? After hollowtrucker77 made those vulgar outbursts that clearly warranted a permanent ban—which were flagged twice, mind you—he showed up just to lecture all of us in bright red text, specifically targeting Sam Wright21. Then, he went ahead and slapped me with a warning card over some nonsense involving Felix, even though I hadn't insulted him and he certainly wasn't directed any animosity toward me.

The point is, being persecuted by this individual seems to be a recurring theme for me, but since I haven't caused any trouble over on the Lies boards, I see absolutely no reason why you wouldn't lift my permanent ban. 🤷
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 RegularOP
402 messages
joined Jul 2016
#6 ·
Timothy Davis59 said:Knowing how you usually talk on the Newsweek forums, I don't think dustyranger64 or any of the other moderators are at fault here.

You are certainly entitled to view my right-leaning views as poor communication, but in reality, what we have here is simply a fundamental difference in ideology.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#7 ·
Sam Wright21 said:Look, my first instinct was to just request a permanent ban from every single board he moderates, but once I actually thought about it, I realized how futile and pointless that would be.

Besides, you remember that whole mess over on the Linguistics thread, don't you? After hollowtrucker77 made those vulgar outbursts that clearly warranted a permanent ban—which were flagged twice, mind you—he showed up just to lecture all of us in bright red text, specifically targeting Sam Wright21. Then, he went ahead and slapped me with a warning card over some nonsense involving Felix, even though I hadn't insulted him and he certainly wasn't directed any animosity toward me.

The point is, being persecuted by this individual seems to be a recurring theme for me, but since I haven't caused any trouble over on the Lies boards, I see absolutely no reason why you wouldn't lift my permanent ban. 🤷

If we're still talking about dustyranger64, he only moderates two sub-forums, not half the entire site.

Sam Wright21 said:Look, my first instinct was to just request a permanent ban from every single board he moderates, but once I actually thought about it, I realized how futile and pointless that would be.

Besides, you remember that whole mess over on the Linguistics thread, don't you? After hollowtrucker77 made those vulgar outbursts that clearly warranted a permanent ban—which were flagged twice, mind you—he showed up just to lecture all of us in bright red text, specifically targeting Sam Wright21. Then, he went ahead and slapped me with a warning card over some nonsense involving Felix, even though I hadn't insulted him and he certainly wasn't directed any animosity toward me.

The point is, being persecuted by this individual seems to be a recurring theme for me, but since I haven't caused any trouble over on the Lies boards, I see absolutely no reason why you wouldn't lift my permanent ban. 🤷


Please, if you actually have a complaint regarding how a specific thread is being moderated, just send us the link.

Sam Wright21 said:Look, my first instinct was to just request a permanent ban from every single board he moderates, but once I actually thought about it, I realized how futile and pointless that would be.

Besides, you remember that whole mess over on the Linguistics thread, don't you? After hollowtrucker77 made those vulgar outbursts that clearly warranted a permanent ban—which were flagged twice, mind you—he showed up just to lecture all of us in bright red text, specifically targeting Sam Wright21. Then, he went ahead and slapped me with a warning card over some nonsense involving Felix, even though I hadn't insulted him and he certainly wasn't directed any animosity toward me.

The point is, being persecuted by this individual seems to be a recurring theme for me, but since I haven't caused any trouble over on the Lies boards, I see absolutely no reason why you wouldn't lift my permanent ban. 🤷

The decision to lift partial bans rests entirely with the moderators of that specific sub-forum.
melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
551 messages
joined May 2010
#8 ·
Sam Wright21 said:Look, my first instinct was to just request a permanent ban from every single board he moderates, but once I actually thought about it, I realized how futile and pointless that would be.

Besides, you remember that whole mess over on the Linguistics thread, don't you? After hollowtrucker77 made those vulgar outbursts that clearly warranted a permanent ban—which were flagged twice, mind you—he showed up just to lecture all of us in bright red text, specifically targeting Sam Wright21. Then, he went ahead and slapped me with a warning card over some nonsense involving Felix, even though I hadn't insulted him and he certainly wasn't directed any animosity toward me.

The point is, being persecuted by this individual seems to be a recurring theme for me, but since I haven't caused any trouble over on the Lies boards, I see absolutely no reason why you wouldn't lift my permanent ban. 🤷

Do you even know what a Permaban is? 😕 A Permaban means someone is permanently kicked off the entire site; it means if you had a perma right now, you couldn't post in this thread or anywhere else on the forum under any username. What you're asking for is a partial ban—a restriction on certain sub-forums.

And while we're at it, if you're going to beg for a partial or permanent ban, you better be ready for it. If it actually gets approved, don't come crying to me in a few days saying you changed your mind. I'm not lifting it just because you have a meltdown.
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
681 messages
joined Nov 2007
#9 ·
It’s not even that dustyranger64 is refusing to stop hounding Sam Wright21, it’s more that I can’t quite wrap my head around why anyone would have that much patience or tolerance left to give her.
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 RegularOP
402 messages
joined Jul 2016
#10 ·
rustydrifter10 said:If we're still talking about dustyranger64, he only moderates two sub-forums, not half the entire site.

Please, if you actually have a complaint regarding how a specific thread is being moderated, just send us the link.

The decision to lift partial bans rests entirely with the moderators of that specific sub-forum.

My personal impression is that he effectively controls half the site, simply because he's present in almost every corner where I happen to wander.

rustydrifter10 said:If we're still talking about dustyranger64, he only moderates two sub-forums, not half the entire site.

Please, if you actually have a complaint regarding how a specific thread is being moderated, just send us the link.

The decision to lift partial bans rests entirely with the moderators of that specific sub-forum.

http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?p...9#post44841379

That was the issue in that specific thread, but what's the point of filing a formal complaint? I tried reaching out to dustyranger64 directly via private message, but he wasn't even remotely interested in listening. 🙂

melloworca6 said:Do you even know what a Permaban is? 😕 A Permaban means someone is permanently kicked off the entire site; it means if you had a perma right now, you couldn't post in this thread or anywhere else on the forum under any username. What you're asking for is a partial ban—a restriction on certain sub-forums.

And while we're at it, if you're going to beg for a partial or permanent ban, you better be ready for it. If it actually gets approved, don't come crying to me in a few days saying you changed your mind. I'm not lifting it just because you have a meltdown.

I am well aware of what a Permaban is. If I held any semblance of authority here, hollowtrucker77 would have been hit with one ages ago; I haven't encountered anyone more obnoxious in my life, whether online or in the real world.

melloworca6 said:Do you even know what a Permaban is? 😕 A Permaban means someone is permanently kicked off the entire site; it means if you had a perma right now, you couldn't post in this thread or anywhere else on the forum under any username. What you're asking for is a partial ban—a restriction on certain sub-forums.

And while we're at it, if you're going to beg for a partial or permanent ban, you better be ready for it. If it actually gets approved, don't come crying to me in a few days saying you changed your mind. I'm not lifting it just because you have a meltdown.

Well, have it your way. If they strip my partial access to Lies, it'll be about as permanent as moving a mountain, so don't come crying to me later.

In any case, I frequently stumble upon fascinating discussions where I could offer some insight or advice, only to feel that familiar sting of disappointment when I realize the conversation isn't happening on the USA site and I'm unable to participate. 😢
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 RegularOP
402 messages
joined Jul 2016
#11 ·
hollowtrucker77 said:It’s not even that dustyranger64 is refusing to stop hounding Sam Wright21, it’s more that I can’t quite wrap my head around why anyone would have that much patience or tolerance left to give her.

The mystery of why they hold such grace toward you remains unsolved, much like the mystery of how you have managed to endure here for all these years. Pure misfortune has steered my attention toward certain threads over the last few days, where I happened upon your posts and a signature from one user labeled Shame forum, which leads directly to a discussion about lifestyle choices where your more vulgar—to put it politely—outbursts were on full display.
melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
551 messages
joined May 2010
#12 ·
Sam Wright21 said:My personal impression is that he effectively controls half the site, simply because he's present in almost every corner where I happen to wander.

http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?p...9#post44841379

That was the issue in that specific thread, but what's the point of filing a formal complaint? I tried reaching out to dustyranger64 directly via private message, but he wasn't even remotely interested in listening. 🙂

I am well aware of what a Permaban is. If I held any semblance of authority here, hollowtrucker77 would have been hit with one ages ago; I haven't encountered anyone more obnoxious in my life, whether online or in the real world.

Well, have it your way. If they strip my partial access to Lies, it'll be about as permanent as moving a mountain, so don't come crying to me later.

In any case, I frequently stumble upon fascinating discussions where I could offer some insight or advice, only to feel that familiar sting of disappointment when I realize the conversation isn't happening on the USA site and I'm unable to participate. 😢

If you understand how a permaban works, why are you constantly begging the admins and mods to take away something you don't even have?

And why are you bringing up Sash in this at all? Why dig up some ancient bullshit from years ago? 🤷 What does he have to do with your personal vendettas? If you can't stand him, just put him on ignore. It's not that hard.
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 RegularOP
402 messages
joined Jul 2016
#13 ·
I was merely referring to a slip of the pen in my initial post when I mentioned a Permaban on Lies.

Even now, just as in ancient times, hollowtrucker77 remains the absolute shame forum. What’s even more aggravating is that he seems to have latched onto me like some sort of digital virus, because here he is again, trailing me even in this space.🙄

Personally, I tend to just tune people out when they pop up in a thread, but I don't actually bother using the ignore button.
dustyranger64 dustyranger64 Active Member
76 messages
joined Jan 2008
#14 ·
Sam Wright21 said:Well, I actually went ahead and requested a permanent ban from Lies just to escape that moderator who refuses to follow any actual logic.

But even then, he manages to haunt me over at Linguistics. It feels like a lost cause 🙂 The man is simply immune to reason.

I’m asking if you could please reverse my Permaban on Lies; I used to find such fascinating psychological discussions there, and unfortunately, they aren't available here in the USA, which leaves me with nowhere to ask questions or offer advice.

As for Philosophy, I took a permanent ban there too, though the Executioner operates with a much more sophisticated level of malice.

dustyranger64 isn't quite like that, so I suspect I could easily bypass him just for the sake of my own amusement.

What’s your take on all this?

Best,

I'm worried you aren't exactly the spokesperson for common sense here.
And hey, make sure to put it in the official record: two (2) strikes on Lies and one (1) redefined as—harassment.

Sam Wright21 said:Look, my first instinct was to just request a permanent ban from every single board he moderates, but once I actually thought about it, I realized how futile and pointless that would be.

Besides, you remember that whole mess over on the Linguistics thread, don't you? After hollowtrucker77 made those vulgar outbursts that clearly warranted a permanent ban—which were flagged twice, mind you—he showed up just to lecture all of us in bright red text, specifically targeting Sam Wright21. Then, he went ahead and slapped me with a warning card over some nonsense involving Felix, even though I hadn't insulted him and he certainly wasn't directed any animosity toward me.

The point is, being persecuted by this individual seems to be a recurring theme for me, but since I haven't caused any trouble over on the Lies boards, I see absolutely no reason why you wouldn't lift my permanent ban. 🤷

1) You don't get to decide what counts as a strike and what doesn't.
hollowtrucker77 got a strike for one of the reported posts, but not for the other. Even if it doesn't involve you, hollowtrucker77 has way more points than I do, so surprisingly, they aren't exactly suffering from the idea that I'm harassing them.

2) You got a strike for Felix because you broke the rules, not because of an insult, even if it was borderline:
Please, don't get mad. I actually feel bad for you because of everything you've been through. I'm saying this with the best intentions: if you haven't realized it yet, you really need therapy. I mean, everyone does, but man, you're on a mission here. This isn't normal.

Just because you think therapy is a good thing doesn't give you the right to hand out diagnoses or tell people they need it on any forum. Especially not on the ones where I'm supposedly harassing people. By the way, you had other posts that deserved a strike, but they let it slide.

Sam Wright21 said:My personal impression is that he effectively controls half the site, simply because he's present in almost every corner where I happen to wander.

http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?p...9#post44841379

That was the issue in that specific thread, but what's the point of filing a formal complaint? I tried reaching out to dustyranger64 directly via private message, but he wasn't even remotely interested in listening. 🙂

I am well aware of what a Permaban is. If I held any semblance of authority here, hollowtrucker77 would have been hit with one ages ago; I haven't encountered anyone more obnoxious in my life, whether online or in the real world.

Well, have it your way. If they strip my partial access to Lies, it'll be about as permanent as moving a mountain, so don't come crying to me later.

In any case, I frequently stumble upon fascinating discussions where I could offer some insight or advice, only to feel that familiar sting of disappointment when I realize the conversation isn't happening on the USA site and I'm unable to participate. 😢

Listen to reason = bowing down to claims that striking me is "harmful" to the forum and accusing me of harassment without actually providing any arguments?
True, that's not how I "listen to reason."
And you aren't even trying to have a civilized conversation.
Sam Wright21 said:My personal impression is that he effectively controls half the site, simply because he's present in almost every corner where I happen to wander.

http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?p...9#post44841379

That was the issue in that specific thread, but what's the point of filing a formal complaint? I tried reaching out to dustyranger64 directly via private message, but he wasn't even remotely interested in listening. 🙂

I am well aware of what a Permaban is. If I held any semblance of authority here, hollowtrucker77 would have been hit with one ages ago; I haven't encountered anyone more obnoxious in my life, whether online or in the real world.

Well, have it your way. If they strip my partial access to Lies, it'll be about as permanent as moving a mountain, so don't come crying to me later.

In any case, I frequently stumble upon fascinating discussions where I could offer some insight or advice, only to feel that familiar sting of disappointment when I realize the conversation isn't happening on the USA site and I'm unable to participate. 😢

Wow, you sure do have a lot of Sash in your mouth. Like, every single post has a few mentions. Maybe if the admins took a moment to explain how the appeals process works or how to request a partial ban reduction, things might actually get sorted out.

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Regarding that whole thing about lifting partial bans after two weeks—I'm staying out of that one since I'm not directly involved.
If Sophia Thomas7 and Jack Bishop94 think access should be restored, then I'm all for it. If they think not, then fine by me too.
Jack Bishop94 Jack Bishop94 Member
21 messages
joined Jul 2008
#15 ·
dustyranger64 said:I'm worried you aren't exactly the spokesperson for common sense here.
And hey, make sure to put it in the official record: two (2) strikes on Lies and one (1) redefined as—harassment.

1) You don't get to decide what counts as a strike and what doesn't.
hollowtrucker77 got a strike for one of the reported posts, but not for the other. Even if it doesn't involve you, hollowtrucker77 has way more points than I do, so surprisingly, they aren't exactly suffering from the idea that I'm harassing them.

2) You got a strike for Felix because you broke the rules, not because of an insult, even if it was borderline:
Please, don't get mad. I actually feel bad for you because of everything you've been through. I'm saying this with the best intentions: if you haven't realized it yet, you really need therapy. I mean, everyone does, but man, you're on a mission here. This isn't normal.

Just because you think therapy is a good thing doesn't give you the right to hand out diagnoses or tell people they need it on any forum. Especially not on the ones where I'm supposedly harassing people. By the way, you had other posts that deserved a strike, but they let it slide.

Listen to reason = bowing down to claims that striking me is "harmful" to the forum and accusing me of harassment without actually providing any arguments?
True, that's not how I "listen to reason."
And you aren't even trying to have a civilized conversation.

Wow, you sure do have a lot of Sash in your mouth. Like, every single post has a few mentions. Maybe if the admins took a moment to explain how the appeals process works or how to request a partial ban reduction, things might actually get sorted out.

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Regarding that whole thing about lifting partial bans after two weeks—I'm staying out of that one since I'm not directly involved.
If Sophia Thomas7 and Jack Bishop94 think access should be restored, then I'm all for it. If they think not, then fine by me too.

On that note, I'm with Sophia Thomas7...
Sophia Thomas7 said:If I’m reading you right, you’re having issues with dustyranger64. Because of that, you sought out a partial ban on Lies. Now you're running into trouble on other subreddits where he's a moderator, yet you're asking to have the partial ban removed from Lies where he's also a moderator?

What exactly would be the reasoning for moderators to collectively agree to lift a partial ban?
Joshua Jones13 Joshua Jones13 Active Member
69 messages
joined Jun 2006
#16 ·
Just a quick heads-up: the rules for requested partitions are exactly the same as those assigned by administration. I guess you can't just show up two weeks after asking for a partition and suddenly demand it be removed.
Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 RegularOP
402 messages
joined Jul 2016
#17 ·
Ah, whatever 🙄

Don't even bother.

It isn't as if that’s the primary reason I spend my time lurking here, nor is it anything particularly consequential.

Just lock the thread.

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