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Old Dell laptop - Windows won't boot

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dustybadger11 dustybadger11 MemberOP
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#1 ·
So, one of the kids managed to knock an old laptop off a table a few days ago 🀦 and now it refuses to boot into Windowsβ€”just stuck staring at a blue screen with a cursor forever. I did manage to limp it into Safe Mode once, though.

During the diagnostic check, the computer flagged an issue with the hard drive:

Fail PSA V4236 Error 2000:0142. hard Drive 0 ; S/N WD-WXC1A72K4479, Short test unsucessfull.


When I tried to launch Windows, this error popped up on my face:

[B]LogonUI.exeApplication Error
The instruction at 0x00000007718FCA0 referenced memory at 0x0000007FEFA66BDD4. The required data was not placed into memory because of an I/O error status 0xc0000186.


Click OK to terminate the program.
[/B]

What exactly am I looking at here? Is the hard drive officially dead, and is there any way to fix this myself without having to drag it all the way to a repair shop?
fadedorca66 fadedorca66 Regular
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#2 ·
Honestly, you're probably better off just pulling that hard Drive 0 out and swapping it for an SSD instead...
dustybadger11 dustybadger11 MemberOP
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fadedorca66 said:It would be even better to just pull that hard drive out and swap it for an SSD...


https://www.cyberport.at/pc-und-zube...-nand-tlc.html

Something like this? But what am I supposed to do about my data? Wouldn't it be way more practical to just grab an external drive, dump everything onto it, install Windows, and then run the whole OS from the external unit? Or am I totally off base here...😁
fadedorca66 fadedorca66 Regular
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#4 ·
You’ll need to check which laptop you're rocking to see if it even has an M.2 slotβ€”if it's an older model, it probably doesn't, so you'd likely need a standard 2.5" SATA SSD instead.

Honestly, this is a pretty good excuse to finally switch to an SSD, since the speed boost is kind of massive.

Trying to run everything off an external drive isn't really a viable move. I mean, you technically could, but you probably won't want to. 😬

To save your files (assuming they aren't totally gone), you might try booting from a Linux live USB; if you can grab your data and dump it onto a thumb drive, then great. Or just plug the drive into another PC to see if it reads. If not, then things are going to get messy.
wanderingbison9 wanderingbison9 Active Member
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#5 ·
I was thinking about picking up an affordable 2.5" USB enclosure to pull my old laptop hard drive out and see what I can salvage. If the electronics haven't completely fried, I'll just plug it into another PC and migrate all my personal files over, right? Once the data is safe, my plan is to format the drive to map out those bad sectors and then repurpose it as a basic external storage unit. That way, I can finally swap in a SATA SSD and get Windows running smoothly again. Since I can't install anything directly from the damaged drive anymore, I guess I'll just have to find a workaround...πŸ˜‰
urbanheron4 urbanheron4 Active Member
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#6 ·
It’s possible the data cable just got nudged loose when it took that fall, which would explain the error. Try opening it up and reseating the connection.
There's also a chance the motherboard itself took a hit. You should probably check that before you go dropping money on a new drive.
dustybadger11 dustybadger11 MemberOP
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#7 ·
urbanheron4 said:It’s possible the data cable just got nudged loose when it hit the ground, which would explain the error. Try popping the case open and reseating the cable.
Then again, there's always the chance the motherboard itself took a hit. You might want to check that before you go dropping cash on a new drive.


hmmm... yeah, I'll definitely try that first. Thanks for the tip. πŸ‘
granitecrane2 granitecrane2 Member
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dustybadger11 said:https://www.cyberport.at/pc-und-zube...-nand-tlc.html

Something like this? But what am I supposed to do with my files? Wouldn't it be easier to just grab an external drive, move everything over there, install Windows, and then run it off the external? Maybe I'm totally off base here...😁

Not quite (that one is an NVMe, which is top-tier, incredibly fast, and very expensiveβ€”I actually have one myself). You want something more like this:

You need a SATA SSD, and it goes right into the same slot where your current HDD sits now.
Before you swap them, you’ll need to copy all your data over. There is specific software for this. Some manufacturers include it on a disc, while others don't.
Check this out: https://www.diskpart.com/clone/clone...free-1881.html

And yes, even though it's slower than an NVMe, because of the interface, it is still vastly faster than a traditional HDD. Both the SSD and your RAM are the critical components needed to make a laptop feel snappy again.

Avoid using external drives for the OS, because USB can be slow (especially on older laptops). While newer USB standards are fast, much like how Apple uses Thunderbolt, if you had a modern laptop, you wouldn't be asking this in the first place. So, forget about running off a USB drive. You'll only need an external connection for the cloning process itself. For that, I recommend picking up a small enclosure so you can connect the drive:

This one is a bit pricier, but it comes with its own power supply, which is a plus since USB ports have limits on how much power they can output (if I recall correctly, it's about 0.5A at 5V). You don't necessarily have to buy one if you know someone who has one (you could borrow it, do the clone, and return it), or if you have a desktop PC where you can temporarily plug it in while you perform the copy.

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