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Open Minds, High IQ, and Spiral Dynamics: Let's Discuss.

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Matthew Gomez2 Matthew Gomez2 MemberOP
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#1 ·
A few times in my life, I’ve crossed paths with people who possess this staggering level of intellect—individuals so intellectually formidable that they don't even need to say a word to command the room.
Some of them are still in my orbit, while others passed through just to remind me of exactly what I needed to hear at that specific moment in time.

I’m curious, how do you all go about sharpening your own intellect?

There is something deeply fascinating to me about encountering someone who truly knows their subject matter—and I don't mean trivial, everyday small talk. I mean deep dives into the cosmos, the mechanics of consciousness, the subconscious, and those heavy, existential topics you simply can't bring up with just anyone. I find myself craving more connections with open-minded people who can see the bigger picture, those who have built their own internal frameworks for understanding reality; they might be a bit dogmatic at times, which some might call a flaw, but I’ve always seen it as a strength.
I get such a sense of fulfillment when I’m listening to or engaging with people online who discuss these profound subjects that we rarely touch upon. We all eventually have to construct our own theories and definitions regarding the unknown, but the key is to keep refining them—to ensure we don't become stagnant or mistake our current perceptions for our absolute identity, because we are certainly much more than just what we currently think we are.

In the title, I brought up spiral dynamics, as I honestly believe that framework offers the best description of intellectual evolution. We all start at zero and climb upward; everyone exists at a specific stage, and I suspect those people I mentioned earlier are operating at an enviable level—perhaps you reading this are, or perhaps it's me. The real work lies in recognizing where you currently stand and acknowledging all the different phases you've navigated to get here.

So, in short, are you actively working on cultivating a stronger intellect? Do you notice specific milestones where you feel you've leveled up, and do you pay close attention to that progression?
redpilot37 redpilot37 Active Member
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joined Sep 2008
#2 ·
Matthew Gomez2 said:A few times in my life, I’ve crossed paths with people who possess this staggering level of intellect—individuals so intellectually formidable that they don't even need to say a word to command the room.
Some of them are still in my orbit, while others passed through just to remind me of exactly what I needed to hear at that specific moment in time.

I’m curious, how do you all go about sharpening your own intellect?

There is something deeply fascinating to me about encountering someone who truly knows their subject matter—and I don't mean trivial, everyday small talk. I mean deep dives into the cosmos, the mechanics of consciousness, the subconscious, and those heavy, existential topics you simply can't bring up with just anyone. I find myself craving more connections with open-minded people who can see the bigger picture, those who have built their own internal frameworks for understanding reality; they might be a bit dogmatic at times, which some might call a flaw, but I’ve always seen it as a strength.
I get such a sense of fulfillment when I’m listening to or engaging with people online who discuss these profound subjects that we rarely touch upon. We all eventually have to construct our own theories and definitions regarding the unknown, but the key is to keep refining them—to ensure we don't become stagnant or mistake our current perceptions for our absolute identity, because we are certainly much more than just what we currently think we are.

In the title, I brought up spiral dynamics, as I honestly believe that framework offers the best description of intellectual evolution. We all start at zero and climb upward; everyone exists at a specific stage, and I suspect those people I mentioned earlier are operating at an enviable level—perhaps you reading this are, or perhaps it's me. The real work lies in recognizing where you currently stand and acknowledging all the different phases you've navigated to get here.

So, in short, are you actively working on cultivating a stronger intellect? Do you notice specific milestones where you feel you've leveled up, and do you pay close attention to that progression?

There is so much left to learn, and the universe is endlessly fascinating. Through synchronicity, numbers, or even just catching a phrase on the radio or TV, we get glimpses and guidance for whatever we were thinking about in that moment. Everything is connected through energy and vibrations. Thoughts are energy. People are here to guide us or teach us; even the ones who irritate us serve a purpose by making us stronger. Nothing is accidental. We are essentially the gods of our own universes. The people and events around us are just mirrors reflecting our own aspects back at us. In this 3D world, life feels pretty shallow because of processed food, stress, and being disconnected from nature. Most of us don't even realize our eyes only perceive a tiny fraction of what truly exists. Returning to nature—our greatest teacher—is how we return to ourselves and a higher state of consciousness.
Nicole Ramirez7 Nicole Ramirez7 Newcomer
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#3 ·
Matthew Gomez2 said:A few times in my life, I’ve crossed paths with people who possess this staggering level of intellect—individuals so intellectually formidable that they don't even need to say a word to command the room.
Some of them are still in my orbit, while others passed through just to remind me of exactly what I needed to hear at that specific moment in time.

I’m curious, how do you all go about sharpening your own intellect?

There is something deeply fascinating to me about encountering someone who truly knows their subject matter—and I don't mean trivial, everyday small talk. I mean deep dives into the cosmos, the mechanics of consciousness, the subconscious, and those heavy, existential topics you simply can't bring up with just anyone. I find myself craving more connections with open-minded people who can see the bigger picture, those who have built their own internal frameworks for understanding reality; they might be a bit dogmatic at times, which some might call a flaw, but I’ve always seen it as a strength.
I get such a sense of fulfillment when I’m listening to or engaging with people online who discuss these profound subjects that we rarely touch upon. We all eventually have to construct our own theories and definitions regarding the unknown, but the key is to keep refining them—to ensure we don't become stagnant or mistake our current perceptions for our absolute identity, because we are certainly much more than just what we currently think we are.

In the title, I brought up spiral dynamics, as I honestly believe that framework offers the best description of intellectual evolution. We all start at zero and climb upward; everyone exists at a specific stage, and I suspect those people I mentioned earlier are operating at an enviable level—perhaps you reading this are, or perhaps it's me. The real work lies in recognizing where you currently stand and acknowledging all the different phases you've navigated to get here.

So, in short, are you actively working on cultivating a stronger intellect? Do you notice specific milestones where you feel you've leveled up, and do you pay close attention to that progression?


I am curious about this too. How does one sharpen the mind? 🙂
Beyond reading books, listening to music, or exercising, I believe there are specialized techniques—such as breathing exercises or meditation—that can help calm the mind. From that stillness, a sharper focus naturally follows.
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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#4 ·
Memorizing facts matters, sure—but actually thinking for yourself and coming up with new ideas? That’s where the real magic happens.
The dogmatic types usually can't handle stepping off the beaten path.
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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#5 ·
Matthew Gomez2 said:A few times in my life, I’ve crossed paths with people who possess this staggering level of intellect—individuals so intellectually formidable that they don't even need to say a word to command the room.
Some of them are still in my orbit, while others passed through just to remind me of exactly what I needed to hear at that specific moment in time.

I’m curious, how do you all go about sharpening your own intellect?

There is something deeply fascinating to me about encountering someone who truly knows their subject matter—and I don't mean trivial, everyday small talk. I mean deep dives into the cosmos, the mechanics of consciousness, the subconscious, and those heavy, existential topics you simply can't bring up with just anyone. I find myself craving more connections with open-minded people who can see the bigger picture, those who have built their own internal frameworks for understanding reality; they might be a bit dogmatic at times, which some might call a flaw, but I’ve always seen it as a strength.
I get such a sense of fulfillment when I’m listening to or engaging with people online who discuss these profound subjects that we rarely touch upon. We all eventually have to construct our own theories and definitions regarding the unknown, but the key is to keep refining them—to ensure we don't become stagnant or mistake our current perceptions for our absolute identity, because we are certainly much more than just what we currently think we are.

In the title, I brought up spiral dynamics, as I honestly believe that framework offers the best description of intellectual evolution. We all start at zero and climb upward; everyone exists at a specific stage, and I suspect those people I mentioned earlier are operating at an enviable level—perhaps you reading this are, or perhaps it's me. The real work lies in recognizing where you currently stand and acknowledging all the different phases you've navigated to get here.

So, in short, are you actively working on cultivating a stronger intellect? Do you notice specific milestones where you feel you've leveled up, and do you pay close attention to that progression?

By snorting Viagra. You really have to make sure enough gets up to the brain. 👍
darksurfer4 darksurfer4 Active Member
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joined Jul 2014
#6 ·
Nicole Ramirez7 said:I am curious about this too. How does one sharpen the mind? 🙂
Beyond reading books, listening to music, or exercising, I believe there are specialized techniques—such as breathing exercises or meditation—that can help calm the mind. From that stillness, a sharper focus naturally follows.

If you were actually halfway intelligent—which, let’s face it, you clearly aren't—you wouldn't be asking how to get smarter; you'd be asking how to successfully dumb yourself down. America is basically a playground for the simple-minded, so you really ought to just lean into it and adapt... though I suppose I'm caught in my own little paradox there; I just called you stupid, yet here I am suggesting that one should strive for stupidity. Can someone with an actual functioning brain explain my little logical loop to me?...
darksurfer4 darksurfer4 Active Member
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#7 ·
Matthew Gomez2 said:A few times in my life, I’ve crossed paths with people who possess this staggering level of intellect—individuals so intellectually formidable that they don't even need to say a word to command the room.
Some of them are still in my orbit, while others passed through just to remind me of exactly what I needed to hear at that specific moment in time.

I’m curious, how do you all go about sharpening your own intellect?

There is something deeply fascinating to me about encountering someone who truly knows their subject matter—and I don't mean trivial, everyday small talk. I mean deep dives into the cosmos, the mechanics of consciousness, the subconscious, and those heavy, existential topics you simply can't bring up with just anyone. I find myself craving more connections with open-minded people who can see the bigger picture, those who have built their own internal frameworks for understanding reality; they might be a bit dogmatic at times, which some might call a flaw, but I’ve always seen it as a strength.
I get such a sense of fulfillment when I’m listening to or engaging with people online who discuss these profound subjects that we rarely touch upon. We all eventually have to construct our own theories and definitions regarding the unknown, but the key is to keep refining them—to ensure we don't become stagnant or mistake our current perceptions for our absolute identity, because we are certainly much more than just what we currently think we are.

In the title, I brought up spiral dynamics, as I honestly believe that framework offers the best description of intellectual evolution. We all start at zero and climb upward; everyone exists at a specific stage, and I suspect those people I mentioned earlier are operating at an enviable level—perhaps you reading this are, or perhaps it's me. The real work lies in recognizing where you currently stand and acknowledging all the different phases you've navigated to get here.

So, in short, are you actively working on cultivating a stronger intellect? Do you notice specific milestones where you feel you've leveled up, and do you pay close attention to that progression?

It sounds like you're clearly suffering from the fact that people perceive you as smart; if you're actually an intelligent person, the only logical response is to not give a damn about how your surroundings view you... though, to be fair, even a moron might think the same thing...
cosmiclynx79 cosmiclynx79 Active Member
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#8 ·
I outgrew that "I’m smarter than everyone else" phase a long time ago, and honestly, it’s a relief.

Sent from my iPhone 12 using Reddit
James Miller2 James Miller2 Member
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joined Oct 2020
#9 ·
Matthew Gomez2 said:A few times in my life, I’ve crossed paths with people who possess this staggering level of intellect—individuals so intellectually formidable that they don't even need to say a word to command the room.
Some of them are still in my orbit, while others passed through just to remind me of exactly what I needed to hear at that specific moment in time.

I’m curious, how do you all go about sharpening your own intellect?

There is something deeply fascinating to me about encountering someone who truly knows their subject matter—and I don't mean trivial, everyday small talk. I mean deep dives into the cosmos, the mechanics of consciousness, the subconscious, and those heavy, existential topics you simply can't bring up with just anyone. I find myself craving more connections with open-minded people who can see the bigger picture, those who have built their own internal frameworks for understanding reality; they might be a bit dogmatic at times, which some might call a flaw, but I’ve always seen it as a strength.
I get such a sense of fulfillment when I’m listening to or engaging with people online who discuss these profound subjects that we rarely touch upon. We all eventually have to construct our own theories and definitions regarding the unknown, but the key is to keep refining them—to ensure we don't become stagnant or mistake our current perceptions for our absolute identity, because we are certainly much more than just what we currently think we are.

In the title, I brought up spiral dynamics, as I honestly believe that framework offers the best description of intellectual evolution. We all start at zero and climb upward; everyone exists at a specific stage, and I suspect those people I mentioned earlier are operating at an enviable level—perhaps you reading this are, or perhaps it's me. The real work lies in recognizing where you currently stand and acknowledging all the different phases you've navigated to get here.

So, in short, are you actively working on cultivating a stronger intellect? Do you notice specific milestones where you feel you've leveled up, and do you pay close attention to that progression?

Intellect used to be very attractive to me. Now, in this stage of my life, I just want us to be on the same level.

People who are intellectually superior are often arrogant. That is a major turn-off for me.

I would much rather spend time with "simpler" people who possess warmth and heart than with sharp intellectuals who relentlessly broadcast their brilliance. 😛
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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#10 ·
darksurfer4 said:If you were actually halfway intelligent—which, let’s face it, you clearly aren't—you wouldn't be asking how to get smarter; you'd be asking how to successfully dumb yourself down. America is basically a playground for the simple-minded, so you really ought to just lean into it and adapt... though I suppose I'm caught in my own little paradox there; I just called you stupid, yet here I am suggesting that one should strive for stupidity. Can someone with an actual functioning brain explain my little logical loop to me?...

I could, but it would cost me 45 points. ☕

You're just not worth that much, honey. 🥱
darksurfer4 darksurfer4 Active Member
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#11 ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:I could, but it would cost me 45 points. ☕

You're just not worth that much, honey. 🥱

Go ahead, I promise I won't get mad. You clearly think you're some kind of genius, or at least that's how you want everyone to see you.🤔
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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#12 ·
cosmiclynx79 said:I outgrew that "I’m smarter than everyone else" phase a long time ago, and honestly, it’s a relief.

Sent from my iPhone 12 using Reddit

But for real though, people tell me all sorts of things... intelligence can be a pretty complicated thing. Then you've got education.
Same goes for IQ.

Obviously, there are exceptions to the rule.
Matthew Gomez2 Matthew Gomez2 MemberOP
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#13 ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:But for real though, people tell me all sorts of things... intelligence can be a pretty complicated thing. Then you've got education.
Same goes for IQ.

Obviously, there are exceptions to the rule.

I couldn't agree more!
Nicole Ramirez7 Nicole Ramirez7 Newcomer
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#14 ·
darksurfer4 said:If you were actually halfway intelligent—which, let’s face it, you clearly aren't—you wouldn't be asking how to get smarter; you'd be asking how to successfully dumb yourself down. America is basically a playground for the simple-minded, so you really ought to just lean into it and adapt... though I suppose I'm caught in my own little paradox there; I just called you stupid, yet here I am suggesting that one should strive for stupidity. Can someone with an actual functioning brain explain my little logical loop to me?...


How does one explain anything to someone so dim-witted and uneducated? It follows a logical conclusion—it is simply impossible.
ironrider11 ironrider11 Regular
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joined Oct 2020
#15 ·
darksurfer4 said:If you were actually halfway intelligent—which, let’s face it, you clearly aren't—you wouldn't be asking how to get smarter; you'd be asking how to successfully dumb yourself down. America is basically a playground for the simple-minded, so you really ought to just lean into it and adapt... though I suppose I'm caught in my own little paradox there; I just called you stupid, yet here I am suggesting that one should strive for stupidity. Can someone with an actual functioning brain explain my little logical loop to me?...

Since you seem so advanced, why not start running seminars, workshops, or some intense corporate team-building retreats? Instead of giving away all this deep insight for free on a forum, you could actually make some cash. If nothing else, a little extra money would help solve your "paradox" by letting you live a decent life... you know, actually escaping the daily grind of dealing with all these morons...
darksurfer4 darksurfer4 Active Member
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#16 ·
ironrider11 said:Since you seem so advanced, why not start running seminars, workshops, or some intense corporate team-building retreats? Instead of giving away all this deep insight for free on a forum, you could actually make some cash. If nothing else, a little extra money would help solve your "paradox" by letting you live a decent life... you know, actually escaping the daily grind of dealing with all these morons...

Hmm, let’s be real: you definitely couldn't run those seminars. Within five minutes, people would be clutching their heads in pure frustration, and I wouldn't be surprised if someone eventually reached out and physically struck another person just to make the noise stop...
ironrider11 ironrider11 Regular
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#17 ·
darksurfer4 said:Hmm, let’s be real: you definitely couldn't run those seminars. Within five minutes, people would be clutching their heads in pure frustration, and I wouldn't be surprised if someone eventually reached out and physically struck another person just to make the noise stop...

So what, does that mean the seminar was a success if it wraps up after five minutes without even getting to the intro? People need to realize that no matter what triggers them or what kind of energy hits them, they’re incredibly reactive. They'll go as far as reaching for someone else's head just to chase a sensation that isn't even real—it's all just stuck in their own minds. Sure, those minds could change if a change is actually needed (assuming someone pays up and signs the waiver, then maybe...), but perhaps it would take physically grabbing them and giving them a little shake using some secret geometric principle of permanent enlightenment... Or maybe not. Except for the few who deal with this stuff for free, driven by reasons only they know... I honestly wonder who would bother doing that. Time is way too precious to waste on "sacrificing yourself for the greater good" when the improvement for everyone else is purely hypothetical... maybe.

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