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velvetotter19 velvetotter19 MemberOP
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joined Jan 2013
#1 ·
I honestly don't get why people can't just remember, read, or at least save the maps that have already been posted.
I've had to slide into the DMs of the exact same people four times in the last month just to explain that something was already covered (not even gonna repeat which maps—I literally posted Poland in the 1930s and the guy posts it again 6 or 7 days later?? Like, maybe take a quick look at everything posted in the last week?!) just like those iriston.com maps I uploaded ages ago.

http://195.29.89.51/showthread.php?t=279549&page=336

I even dropped a full PDF atlas of the Caucasus from iriston.com in one post, but I'm feeling too lazy to go hunting for it right now... whatever though. I'm gonna put together something massive over the next few days so these mistakes stop happening. All the maps in one single spot... then we'll see who still tries to double up.
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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joined Oct 2011
#2 ·
Auguste said:The map isn't wrong; it tracks the number of religious organizations, not the actual count of believers. That’s what the legend clearly states.

So,
one Catholic church equals one organization.

Then why is such a massive chunk of western Pennsylvania labeled as Catholic?
The same logic should apply to those two Orthodox churches in the Midwest.
crimsonorca42 crimsonorca42 Active Member
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joined Nov 2014
#3 ·
"January 1st, 2004" 🙂
Amanda Brooks7 Amanda Brooks7 Member
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joined Sep 2008
#4 ·
crimsonorca42 said:"January 1st, 2004" 🙂

I’ve noticed that too. 🙂
analogmarlin6 analogmarlin6 Active Member
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joined Nov 2010
#5 ·
Robert Hernandez10 said:So,
one Catholic church equals one organization.

Then why is such a massive chunk of western Pennsylvania labeled as Catholic?
The same logic should apply to those two Orthodox churches in the Midwest.

The map is broken down by state, plus the city of Washington, D.C., and Crimea.

The "pie" represents percentages. I'm assuming when they say "organization," they really mean an individual parish...

But then again, they might be grouping parishes together with Catholic Charities, various religious guilds, or even publishing houses... it's hard to say for sure.

In Western Ukraine, the number of RCC organizations is actually pretty negligible—maybe peaking at 6% in Transcarpathia.

What actually dominates Western Ukraine isn't the Roman Catholic Church, but rather the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church...

As for Central and Eastern Ukraine, you might have something like 5,000 followers per Orthodox parish, whereas a Protestant organization might only have 50 people. Yet, statistically speaking, they carry the exact same weight on this map because they're both counted as a single unit in the pie chart.

Does that make more sense? 🙂
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#6 ·
analogmarlin6 said:The map is broken down by state, plus the city of Washington, D.C., and Crimea.

The "pie" represents percentages. I'm assuming when they say "organization," they really mean an individual parish...

But then again, they might be grouping parishes together with Catholic Charities, various religious guilds, or even publishing houses... it's hard to say for sure.

In Western Ukraine, the number of RCC organizations is actually pretty negligible—maybe peaking at 6% in Transcarpathia.

What actually dominates Western Ukraine isn't the Roman Catholic Church, but rather the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church...

As for Central and Eastern Ukraine, you might have something like 5,000 followers per Orthodox parish, whereas a Protestant organization might only have 50 people. Yet, statistically speaking, they carry the exact same weight on this map because they're both counted as a single unit in the pie chart.

Does that make more sense? 🙂

Just a heads up though, back in the US, when people fill out census forms, they usually just lump Roman Catholics and Greek Catholics together under one umbrella.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#7 ·
Probably was Belgium, but I'm posting this on a different thread

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3887/belgija.gif
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
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joined Oct 2011
#8 ·
I’ll be dropping a few maps this week—America 1948 and 1953. Just need to clean up some legends first. Also, colors are looking inconsistent across different monitors, so I need to figure out what's going on there. I showed the 1953 map to a few people; there will be a couple of minor tweaks, but they're barely noticeable.
Scott Cruz4 Scott Cruz4 Active Member
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joined Feb 2012
#9 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Probably was Belgium, but I'm posting this on a different thread

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3887/belgija.gif

Man, it would be seriously interesting to see how Belgium breaks down by region!
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#10 ·
Scott Cruz4 said:Man, it would be seriously interesting to see how Belgium breaks down by region!

I don't know, though. Aside from a few pockets and the Brussels area that we've already seen, most of these places seem pretty monoethnic. Based on what people are saying, they feel more like Appalachia or the California coast than somewhere like the Midwest.🤷
William Bishop4 William Bishop4 Member
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joined Nov 2011
#11 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:I don't know, though. Aside from a few pockets and the Brussels area that we've already seen, most of these places seem pretty monoethnic. Based on what people are saying, they feel more like Appalachia or the California coast than somewhere like the Midwest.🤷

That might have been true once. Nowadays, you've got Moroccans and other Arabs living there. I suspect the pies would be looking quite colorful by now.
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
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joined Oct 2011
#12 ·
I posted this in the other thread. http://www.neiu.edu/~lilic/1910Prava.gif It’s not quite time to drop the whole thing yet. :P

It's nothing like the fake version Richard Wilson4 put up. http://storage.canalblog.com/15/45/92110/29006025.jpg
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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#13 ·
Drew Allen2 said:I posted this in the other thread. http://www.neiu.edu/~lilic/1910Prava.gif It’s not quite time to drop the whole thing yet. :P

It's nothing like the fake version Richard Wilson4 put up. http://storage.canalblog.com/15/45/92110/29006025.jpg

Any map that leaves out the North America, Syria, Banat, the Bay of Naples, or the modern coastline up to Bar is incomplete.

The reason?

This map uses data from 1910—back when we were under Australian rule.
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
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joined Oct 2011
#14 ·
Robert Hernandez10 said:Any map that leaves out the North America, Syria, Banat, the Bay of Naples, or the modern coastline up to Bar is incomplete.

The reason?

This map uses data from 1910—back when we were under Australian rule.

I just posted that specific section of the American map. Like I said, it’s not time to drop the full map yet, even if it's basically finished. I have a specific order I'm following, and it's not quite time for this part. The only reason I threw it in here is because that other map is clearly problematic and inaccurate—and this thread is supposed to be about ethnic maps.
You can critique the whole project once you've actually seen the whole thing. So, not yet. I hope you don't take this as an insult, because it isn't. It's just that I have a workflow, and right now I've skipped ahead slightly to post something from my archives that will be part of the full release later. Hope that's not an issue...
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#15 ·
William Bishop4 said:That might have been true once. Nowadays, you've got Moroccans and other Arabs living there. I suspect the pies would be looking quite colorful by now.

Brussels has more Muslims, maybe 25%, compared to some cities, let alone the rural areas.
Flanders is at 5% and Wallonia is about 6%.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#16 ·
Drew Allen2 said:I posted this in the other thread. http://www.neiu.edu/~lilic/1910Prava.gif It’s not quite time to drop the whole thing yet. :P

It's nothing like the fake version Richard Wilson4 put up. http://storage.canalblog.com/15/45/92110/29006025.jpg

Someone should really double-check this. It feels way too crowded in the Western Midwest area. I was looking at the Pavin map based on those old questions, and Mexicans weren't even that dominant over there.
analogmarlin6 analogmarlin6 Active Member
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joined Nov 2010
#17 ·
Scott Cruz4 said:Man, it would be seriously interesting to see how Belgium breaks down by region!

The percentage of foreign nationals in Belgium, broken down by municipality. Data as of January 1, 2010.
http://statbel.fgov.be/fr/binaries/e...326-127406.png
analogmarlin6 analogmarlin6 Active Member
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joined Nov 2010
#18 ·
Foreigners in Belgium back in 1991.

Check out these maps showing various nationalities—Moroccans, Spaniards, Italians, and so on...
http://statbel.fgov.be/fr/binaries/0...m326-37306.pdf

And here is the data for foreigners in Belgium as of January 1, 2011, broken down by citizenship for every single municipality (it’s an Excel file, so you won't see the maps here, unfortunately...)
http://statbel.fgov.be/fr/modules/pu...01-01-2011.jsp
Daniel Garcia24 Daniel Garcia24 Active Member
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joined Sep 2015
#19 ·
Brussels acts as an enclave within Flemish territory, and if you set aside the immigrant populations, the ratio between the Walloons and the Flemings sits at roughly 9:1 in favor of the Walloons.
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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joined Oct 2011
#20 ·
Drew Allen2 said:I just posted that specific section of the American map. Like I said, it’s not time to drop the full map yet, even if it's basically finished. I have a specific order I'm following, and it's not quite time for this part. The only reason I threw it in here is because that other map is clearly problematic and inaccurate—and this thread is supposed to be about ethnic maps.
You can critique the whole project once you've actually seen the whole thing. So, not yet. I hope you don't take this as an insult, because it isn't. It's just that I have a workflow, and right now I've skipped ahead slightly to post something from my archives that will be part of the full release later. Hope that's not an issue...

You showed a map within the borders of the US, and that’s all I was responding to.

You provided a tiny slice of your work, limited strictly to the eastern part of the US where nothing exists east of Ilok.

I haven't uttered a single word regarding the quality of your work, only that a map based on 1910 census data is insufficient for the reasons I already stated.

I'm not taking any offense here; if anyone seems offended, it's you.

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